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Is this the reason why Harry talked about Afghanistan, 25 Taliban dead?

156 replies

Abigail69 · 06/01/2023 09:23

Why did he say this, surely he knew he'd make himself a bigger target.

So, in your opinion, what was the reason behind this?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11604941/Harry-painted-target-comments-killing-25-Taliban-ex-Army-colonel-says.html

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TattieBogle12 · 06/01/2023 09:25

I don’t think he’s that bright to have done it deliberately 🙊 not meaning to be unkind but…

stealthninjamum · 06/01/2023 09:27

I wondered if he just feels insecure about his life now and is reminding us that he once had a successful career. it isn’t the smartest thing to do but then we all say and do stupid things when we’re unhappy.

Charlieiscool · 06/01/2023 09:29

Maybe he wants a fatwa. Or the threat requiring the UK taxpayer to pay for his security. After all, life is so hard for him isn’t it?

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 06/01/2023 09:30

I doubt it as he must know it won't happen. He will be paying for his own security, it's his responsibility. He's just made himself a target. The comments haven't gone down well.

Theunamedcat · 06/01/2023 09:31

We won't pay for permanent security in other countries though and they are never moving back here so at best it's an own goal

Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 09:33

He has been badly let down by editors and publishers. Who the hell allows someone to publicly say something like that? I think its so unfair that both of this couple have been put in positions to be highly ridiculed and endangered by publishers who would never have accepted such crap from anyone else. Its reverse discrimination. And it could prove to be lethal

Abigail69 · 06/01/2023 09:34

TattieBogle12 · 06/01/2023 09:25

I don’t think he’s that bright to have done it deliberately 🙊 not meaning to be unkind but…

I guess you are correct and the whole book is about selling his soul.
Sadly, Harry may think he was in control but these writers/etc always want their money's worth.

I've actually seen soaps/films where a reporter takes a long interview and just quotes a few words to make the outcome look entirely different

In Harrys defence, IMO Harry was talking at length about his time in Afghanistan
and made a passing comment to number Harry may have felt responsible for killing from his helicopter gunship and we end up with headlines like this.

Whatever it was, the whole book is unnecessary IMO and I feel Harry will one day regret it.

There was no reason to talk about the above as the royal family are always targets of nutters and these few words do not help.

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Abigail69 · 06/01/2023 09:36

Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 09:33

He has been badly let down by editors and publishers. Who the hell allows someone to publicly say something like that? I think its so unfair that both of this couple have been put in positions to be highly ridiculed and endangered by publishers who would never have accepted such crap from anyone else. Its reverse discrimination. And it could prove to be lethal

"He has been badly let down by editors and publishers."

Harry is not a child, he is almost 40 years old. Though I'm no famous, nowhere near it, I and millions of others in the UK know that publishers only make money if there is stuff of interest/controversial. Therefore, I'd steer clear of this mob and was this not one of the reasons they went to Canada to get away from the media?

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Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 09:37

Remember that nonsense Megham markal published, roughly average for a 12 year old. It was extremely unprofessional to allow that to be published too, but the publisher must have been counting on her name bringing in money, and not caring that the quality would bring her ridicule. I guess an entirely commercial decision, but you would have thought someone with a bit more skill could have tidies it up a bit in editing ( I dont know, perhaps they did- perhaps the original was worse)

crabbyapples · 06/01/2023 09:37

The famously publicity hating and gaffe prone Harry... has made a Faustian pact with content creators and soft style interviewers and publishers to share, share, share, share, share, share, share - his virginity, his other girlfriends, the Queen on her deathbed for fuck's sake - and now the newspapers are making masses of cash from clickbait and articles.

Ya couldn't make it up.

AsTrickyasAnElephantTrunk · 06/01/2023 09:38

I would be interested to hear what people who currently serve (or have served) in the armed forces think about these comments. I have no military background or experience but my gut reaction to these comments was quite visceral. Whilst I have no doubt what he said is true, it just seemed so distasteful to say it. Comparing people to chess pieces.

I realise that many of the quotes coming from the book are from a Spanish version - translated into English. I just hope that a lot of this is 'lost in translation' and it reads differently in the English version.

Incredibly stupid to raise his families risk profile in this manner. It also angers me as it sort of raises security threat for all of the British - one of our Princes bragging about killing Muslims. It just takes one nut case to want to take revenge.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 06/01/2023 09:39

Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 09:33

He has been badly let down by editors and publishers. Who the hell allows someone to publicly say something like that? I think its so unfair that both of this couple have been put in positions to be highly ridiculed and endangered by publishers who would never have accepted such crap from anyone else. Its reverse discrimination. And it could prove to be lethal

Why blame others for the actions of an adult? this is all on Harry.

Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 09:39

Abigail69 · 06/01/2023 09:36

"He has been badly let down by editors and publishers."

Harry is not a child, he is almost 40 years old. Though I'm no famous, nowhere near it, I and millions of others in the UK know that publishers only make money if there is stuff of interest/controversial. Therefore, I'd steer clear of this mob and was this not one of the reasons they went to Canada to get away from the media?

But if a normal person wrote such rubbish, the publisher would turn it down, no matter how shocking/controversial it was . How has he been allowed to put himself in this position? He clearly has no judgement what so ever, but then he has never been in the real world, where would he learn judgement from? Surely its the job of the publishers to exercise that judgement.

Slimjimtobe · 06/01/2023 09:40

It was really risky of him to do that. I just cannot imagine after the very tame Netflix series that he would do this to himself. some things were funny (eg horse lady)

this is deadly serious

IcedPurple · 06/01/2023 09:40

Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 09:33

He has been badly let down by editors and publishers. Who the hell allows someone to publicly say something like that? I think its so unfair that both of this couple have been put in positions to be highly ridiculed and endangered by publishers who would never have accepted such crap from anyone else. Its reverse discrimination. And it could prove to be lethal

Is the blame game starting so quickly? Harry is an adult, at least in chronological terms. It's not the publishers' job to babysit him. This is what happens when you find freedom to make yourself a commodity.

shard5 · 06/01/2023 09:40

I just saw that headline and my first thought was that Harry has now made himself and his wife and young children a huge target. He has raised the security risk himself.
How could he not realise that he's put his own children in serious danger????
Why did no one raise this with him?
I feel so much rage and frustration at him! Those poor children.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 06/01/2023 09:43

Why did no one raise this with him?

We don't know if someone did raise it with him. They may well have done. It doesn't take a genius to realise these comments won't go down well and would put himself and family at risk.

NigelDidIt · 06/01/2023 09:44

Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 09:33

He has been badly let down by editors and publishers. Who the hell allows someone to publicly say something like that? I think its so unfair that both of this couple have been put in positions to be highly ridiculed and endangered by publishers who would never have accepted such crap from anyone else. Its reverse discrimination. And it could prove to be lethal

No he has let himself down. He was in the Army long enough to know what he should or shouldn't say. This is all on him.

hamstersarse · 06/01/2023 09:48

I have never ever heard a soldier provide a 'number' on how many people they have killed. It is such a strange thing to do.

It doesn't align with his whole 'charitable, help the world' persona at all.

I feel for him in terms of making such an enormous mistake. You can't take this back and this is going to have consequences for him. I also, unfortunately, can absolutely sympathise with 'the other side' here and how this will make them feel - bragging about how many people you have killed, even in a war situation, is just totally and utterly vile.

Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 09:49

NigelDidIt · 06/01/2023 09:44

No he has let himself down. He was in the Army long enough to know what he should or shouldn't say. This is all on him.

He has never visited the normal world or got to know a normal person. He doesn't know how far out his judgement is, compared to most normal people in the world.

User12453315 · 06/01/2023 09:49

Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 09:33

He has been badly let down by editors and publishers. Who the hell allows someone to publicly say something like that? I think its so unfair that both of this couple have been put in positions to be highly ridiculed and endangered by publishers who would never have accepted such crap from anyone else. Its reverse discrimination. And it could prove to be lethal

Absolutely agree but the editors knew 100% well what they were doing. They may have sold it to him that it will endear him more to the American public. Many people on the publishing team will get very rich soon and they honestly don’t give a shit about Harry because their own families don’t have a Taliban target on them. Harry is a consenting adult and signed all sorts of contracts along the way so he can’t complain about it in retrospect.

AsTrickyasAnElephantTrunk · 06/01/2023 09:50

This is also not an interview or an authorised biography. This is his autobiography written with the help of a ghost writer. He cannot distance himself, or say it was take out of context or a poor edit. This is his work, he has full ownership and control. I think there is tendency to see view Harry as a vulnerable child. He is a middle aged man.

crabbyapples · 06/01/2023 09:54

Yes, soldiers kill in war.

No, soldiers do not put out a book stating the tally of personal kills, putting the platoon he was with at risk, and then moan about personal security, and then want to do philanthrophy and charitable work and go on about being a 'good guy', and say how he's overcome his unconscious bias and bigotry and that they thought he P word was like saying 'Yankee' - you know, that famously non-pejorative and non-problematic term(!)

It's so stupid, it hurts.

Quisquam · 06/01/2023 09:56

I can’t believe, he doesn’t think back to the attack on Salman Rushdie, was it last year?

LavenderHillMob · 06/01/2023 10:03

Someone who claims to be fearful of the press has just put a Taliban target on his head.

It is the definition of stupid.

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