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Is this the reason why Harry talked about Afghanistan, 25 Taliban dead?

156 replies

Abigail69 · 06/01/2023 09:23

Why did he say this, surely he knew he'd make himself a bigger target.

So, in your opinion, what was the reason behind this?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11604941/Harry-painted-target-comments-killing-25-Taliban-ex-Army-colonel-says.html

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NoSquirrels · 06/01/2023 16:53

TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 16:01

@AsTrickyasAnElephantTrunk as in the ghost writer? Rumour is he was sent away with a NDA. Can't imagine he would put his name to this

Interesting. You mean the rumour is he didn’t do the final draft?

If I was Moehringer I think I’d have refused the NDA.

It’s a poisoned chalice job for any ghost, I reckon.

Megan1992xx · 06/01/2023 16:54

I would not a shed a tear for him, the author of his own misfortunes.
His mother went at just the right time from the point of view of the RF what an irony if history repeated itself with Harry.

TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 16:56

@NoSquirrels only a rumour I see on a few sites. I don't think he did the final draft no.

He has (had) a good reputation as far as I can tell and surely enough experience to know this is a disaster.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 06/01/2023 16:58

Colonel Kemp, who was was an infantry battalion commanding officer in Afghanistan, said on the BBC that he should be proud of his kill number but kept his mouth shut...

"I think he's wrong when he says in his book that insurgents were seen just as being virtually unhuman - subhuman perhaps - just as chess pieces to be knocked over.

"That's not the case at all. And it's not the way the British Army trains people as he claims...

"I think that sort of comment that doesn't reflect reality, is misleading and potentially valuable to those people who wish the British forces and British government harm, so I think it was an error of judgement."

Hard to argue with that.

Iliveditwizbit · 06/01/2023 17:06

His comments incite violence and are so destructive to British diplomatic and military efforts everywhere . I can not believe this was allowed to be published. It’s trash of the standard we’d expect from Katie Price’s ghost writers. but with far more dangerous consequences. Surely Meghan saw this? Are they so caught up in in their own Californication and complacency that they thought this was ok? Have either of them considered that their own children will never be allowed to live in the peace they so desperately supposedly crave because of their actions? What on earth was he thinking? Who is advising them?

NoSquirrels · 06/01/2023 17:06

TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 16:56

@NoSquirrels only a rumour I see on a few sites. I don't think he did the final draft no.

He has (had) a good reputation as far as I can tell and surely enough experience to know this is a disaster.

I’m literally only interested in the book because it’s Moeringher.

TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 17:08

"That's not the case at all. And it's not the way the British Army trains people as he claims..."

No, it's not. I left in 2005 (reservist) and I had many friends who served in Iraq, Kosovo, NI etc. grenadier guards, paratroopers, you name it. Yes many stories and the truth as to what's actually like but from my experience, not one of them spoke about killing people, how many or any detail in that regard, and I knew better than to ask. You just don't do it.

As for swearing his oath to HMTQ, his own grandmother on top of that, it makes me doubt what he's saying is even true because he doesn't get it! I bet he never even left the base

Cranberrystreet · 06/01/2023 17:11

Megan1992xx · 06/01/2023 16:54

I would not a shed a tear for him, the author of his own misfortunes.
His mother went at just the right time from the point of view of the RF what an irony if history repeated itself with Harry.

Wow. What a hideous post.

rumship · 06/01/2023 17:16

Cranberrystreet · 06/01/2023 17:11

Wow. What a hideous post.

Well its not like Harry gave a shit about the 25 people he killed and the outfall from that is it. Their deaths were purely little Harry`s jaunt in a helicopter gunner position, so he could use their demise as a way to justify his blood money from his book.

War is bad and often not necessary but the bragging and boasting of fallen soldiers' of either side is sick, especially for money. Real soldiers do the job they are asked to do and don't sell their bloody story's for bragging rights.

TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 17:17

@rumship

I agree.

MichelleScarn · 06/01/2023 17:22

Absolutely @rumship, of course as this probably hasn't gone down with the celebration and awe Harry maybe thought it would, how long till, 'it wasn't my fault/I was just following orders/we shouldn't have been there'?

YesterYay · 06/01/2023 17:36

MichelleScarn · 06/01/2023 17:22

Absolutely @rumship, of course as this probably hasn't gone down with the celebration and awe Harry maybe thought it would, how long till, 'it wasn't my fault/I was just following orders/we shouldn't have been there'?

Or 'Kate and Willy told me to go to Afghanistan, it was their idea'.

AutumnCrow · 06/01/2023 17:44

How could he do this to his family?

TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 17:46

He didn't write this shit? Surely....

pagesix.com/2023/01/05/prince-harry-prince-william-was-gone-after-kate-wedding/

I look at this and then look at the taliban part and I'm calling bullshit

superdupernova · 06/01/2023 17:59

I think he wrote it so the world would know he was a active soldier and not just sat in an office somewhere in Afghanistan, that's all. I don't think he has the intelligence to realise that confirming he killed members of the Taliban would anger the Taliban.

kirinm · 06/01/2023 18:01

He's already talked about killing people - I just read an article from 2013 in the guardian where he spoke about it (although not specific numbers). It doesn't sound like much of this book is completely new.

TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 18:14

@superdupernova

Harry though protests too much. What's he got to prove? He went there and I admired him for that alone. My friend ended up at camp bastion just as an office worker. Came back with PTSD and couldn't tolerate firework night. That's why I don't believe Harry and I think he's an arsehole who has played too much COD and probably didn't experience real combat.

londonrach · 06/01/2023 18:19

He can't think of any other way out of getting away from Megan... Awful. Some things you keep quiet

TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 18:23

To add: my friend was fully trained but was in admin. Out in Iraq it's a whole different story. He wasn't on the front line, nor were my colleagues, we were logistics - delivered equipment and food. I didn't get called up but my friends did but I was prepared and fully trained in WMD (roll my eyes) and trained to sit in 40 degree heat with full WMD charcoal gear which is AWFUL but was a lie. Fuck bush and Blair. Harry has let the military down.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 06/01/2023 19:40

rumship · 06/01/2023 17:16

Well its not like Harry gave a shit about the 25 people he killed and the outfall from that is it. Their deaths were purely little Harry`s jaunt in a helicopter gunner position, so he could use their demise as a way to justify his blood money from his book.

War is bad and often not necessary but the bragging and boasting of fallen soldiers' of either side is sick, especially for money. Real soldiers do the job they are asked to do and don't sell their bloody story's for bragging rights.

Weirdly, I thought he seemed to have copied the sort of image / expression on the front of his book as some published ex SAS soldiers have. I don't know why he would do that (other than the success of Jason Fox et al and hoping to be taken 'seriously' like them) My feeling is that perhaps he felt that because their books were best sellers, then maybe his 'war memiors' would also be met with accolade. Except they worded their experiences very differently.

It's almost like cosplay. Yes, we know he toured Afghanistan. We also heard at the time that he was pulled out of the war due to him feeling his position in the RF may have compromised his fellow military colleagues.

I know people who served in Iraq, Afghanistan, and indeed my own grandfather who served in WW2. The narrative from Harry is disturbing. I've never heard the same sort of narrative from other military personnel.

He obviously has a lot of issues. He is the first to admit that. However, the way he is going about processing his problems is very odd. And his need to overshadow everything and everyone else is deeply concerning.

As others have said, those who are advising him do not, perhaps have his best interests at heart. Something he has previously accused The Palace and his family of.

Abigail69 · 06/01/2023 19:48

Bigbadfish · 06/01/2023 16:12

Everything I have learned about these that's has been against my will.

But come on. He's thick as shit! Even I knew that. Best education money can buy and look at the results he came out with.

Dressed up as a Nazi.....

He's only a Prince because he was born that way. Put him in any other family and he'd be nothing. Amount to not much and probably be classed as the family twat.

You made me lol.

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RainbowZebraWarrior · 06/01/2023 19:53

Btw, I fully understand that his book his not a 'war memior' in itself, but it obviously touches on his time as a soldier. No account from a soldier (be it verbal or written) that I have heard focuses or even mentions how many people they have killed. It is an unspoken rule that it is simply never discussed (apart from, perhaps in therapy)

Abigail69 · 06/01/2023 19:54

I don't think there is anything else left we don't know about.

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rumship · 06/01/2023 19:56

I think this old image is appropriate.

Is this the reason why Harry talked about Afghanistan,  25 Taliban dead?
BethJ62 · 06/01/2023 22:35

Of all the stupid things Harry has said ( and there are many ) this has to be the most stupid and dangerous.