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Is this the reason why Harry talked about Afghanistan, 25 Taliban dead?

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Abigail69 · 06/01/2023 09:23

Why did he say this, surely he knew he'd make himself a bigger target.

So, in your opinion, what was the reason behind this?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11604941/Harry-painted-target-comments-killing-25-Taliban-ex-Army-colonel-says.html

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BethJ62 · 06/01/2023 14:27

jtaeapa · 06/01/2023 13:34

I think his advisor/ghostwriter/wife/himself/whoever should have thought much more carefully before publishing something that would stir up the Taliban and put a target on his back (and his family). I am afraid for what is going to happen to him.

His ghostwriter wrote an excellent book about Andre Agassi.
From what I have read so far , I cannot believe it is the same writer .

OwwwMuuuum · 06/01/2023 14:37

TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 14:27

So what you’re saying is it’s ok for the army etc to go over and kill “Taliban” (Muslims) but not to talk about it? Insane. The army are there to kill people, soldiers are trained killers, of other killers yes but also any innocent collateral - women, children, animals - that’s what war is.
If you sign up to be in the armed forces, you are literally signing up to kill innocent people, in the name of “hearts and minds” or whatever shit they come out with next. It’s all war, it’s all killing. Its all absolutely repellent to me.
At least Harry has been honest about that. I find it disgusting that there is then this expectation “unwritten rule” that soldiers are somehow not supposed to mention how many they have killed. Sorry to go off point but I think it’s absolutely revolting."

Why? In a war zone the mindset is different. Your basing your opinion on most likely a civilian life with no training or experience into that mindset. When soldiers return home in most cases at least, they don't want to talk about killing other people, let alone publicise it to the whole bloody world, including the people whose families you killed. Anyone with an ounce of common sense can easily guess what he may have or not have done. No need for the detail.

He's an idiot.

They should be made to talk about it! And take some personal responsibility! I see it’s an unconventional view, but I’m for peace, not committing these awful acts and the. sweeping it all under the carpet and never talking about it again.

Octopusmittens · 06/01/2023 14:38

I think it was done deliberately so that the RF are forced to pay for his Protection.

TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 14:45

@OwwwMuuuum

I believe Harry has had years of therapy. Soldiers suffer PTSD, most join to serve and protect their country and a fulfilling career learning valuable skills which afterwards can lead to a good job back in civilian life. They don't join just to kill people. Well, I haven't come across that in my experience anyway.

They can also share their experiences with their comrades, both in training, combat and with close family. They also suffer from combat whether mental, physical both or lose their lives.

We have a serious issue with PTSD in the military and lack of decent therapy. Perhaps Harry should have focused on that instead. All I know is he has pissed a lot of the military off, including his old comrades who have publicly told him to STFU.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 06/01/2023 14:46

Abigail69 · 06/01/2023 09:23

Why did he say this, surely he knew he'd make himself a bigger target.

So, in your opinion, what was the reason behind this?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11604941/Harry-painted-target-comments-killing-25-Taliban-ex-Army-colonel-says.html

What's your opinion on this?

NoSquirrels · 06/01/2023 14:52

BethJ62 · 06/01/2023 14:27

His ghostwriter wrote an excellent book about Andre Agassi.
From what I have read so far , I cannot believe it is the same writer .

And this is why everyone should reserve judgement on what exactly he’s “said” until they read the actual published words on a page.

OwwwMuuuum · 06/01/2023 14:54

I don’t think people join the armed forces with the express intent to kill innocent people; I haven’t said that. What I’ve said is that it’s an inevitability and the “STFU” attitude is reprehensible; they should be honest and open about it. It would be far more healthy for the practitioners of war, but it would also mean civilians get to hear the shocking truth of it all, and maybe there would be less public support of spending on “defence” (snort, eyeroll) than there is. Sorry again, derail, but this is important. At the very least maybe Harry’s words will open up this debate. All very “not in my name” here.

NoSquirrels · 06/01/2023 14:55

TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 14:45

@OwwwMuuuum

I believe Harry has had years of therapy. Soldiers suffer PTSD, most join to serve and protect their country and a fulfilling career learning valuable skills which afterwards can lead to a good job back in civilian life. They don't join just to kill people. Well, I haven't come across that in my experience anyway.

They can also share their experiences with their comrades, both in training, combat and with close family. They also suffer from combat whether mental, physical both or lose their lives.

We have a serious issue with PTSD in the military and lack of decent therapy. Perhaps Harry should have focused on that instead. All I know is he has pissed a lot of the military off, including his old comrades who have publicly told him to STFU.

I’d imagine these parts about the Taliban etc are indeed being written in the context of PTSD, therapy and support for members of the armed forces etc. But those extracts won’t sell newspapers…

AsTrickyasAnElephantTrunk · 06/01/2023 14:57

I read the Agassi biography years ago and loved it. It was surprisingly frank and honest about quite taboo (and potentially embarrassing subjects). He talked about wearing a hair piece, about taking drugs, about hating tennis, about his difficult relationship with his father and his coaches. It worked though - it changed a lot of peoples view about him. It made him endearing, vulnerable and very likeable. It created respect for him and it got rave reviews.

I wonder if Harry was told to read that as background for this book and he has taken the same approach. Talking about embarrassing personal matters, his problematic relationships etc. He has taken the same very frank and open approach about his experience in the Army and war.

The Afghanistan war, however, is not tennis. Mimicking the Agassi approach seems to have backfired enormously and made him a laughing stock.

The vast majority of what we have heard is based upon the translation of the Spanish version. We all know how ridiculous 'google' translate can make other languages sound. I am wondering if there is a huge amount lost in translation and the English version may come across very differently. I certainly hope so for his sake as at the moment this has completely blown up in his face.

BethJ62 · 06/01/2023 14:59

Octopusmittens · 06/01/2023 14:38

I think it was done deliberately so that the RF are forced to pay for his Protection.

And who will pay for his former colleagues’ protection ?

TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 14:59

Me?
I think he's painted a target on a lot of backs and stirred up a hornets nest for which reason, I am flummoxed. Not that the Taliban have ANY reason to criticise! He's played right into their hands and any excuse for them which is worrying. I just hope there won't be any escalation from this. It just wasn't necessary to poke the bear (and profit off it)

He could've written about his experience in a far more positive way. Personally, I think his mental health is in crisis, is surrounded by people who do not have his interests at heart and needs intervention. Even if the book shows a fuller context, it's too late now.

vera99 · 06/01/2023 15:28

We are reading bite sized sensationalised nuggets from the book surely we should wait before the whole thing is published officially before passing judgement.

IcedPurple · 06/01/2023 15:34

vera99 · 06/01/2023 15:28

We are reading bite sized sensationalised nuggets from the book surely we should wait before the whole thing is published officially before passing judgement.

Several people have read the book already, and there doesn't seem to be any 'context' justifying what Harry chose to write. I'm not sure what difference you expect 'official publication' to make?

Besides, that's how these things go. There will always be a focus on, pardon the pun, 'explosive' statements. The 'context' barely matters. That's why it was extraordinarily stupid of Harry to include these remarks. I wonder if a British publisher would have included them? I suspect not. But this is Harry's brand new life of freedom.

Abigail69 · 06/01/2023 15:35

vera99 · 06/01/2023 15:28

We are reading bite sized sensationalised nuggets from the book surely we should wait before the whole thing is published officially before passing judgement.

The taliban and media have passed "judgment" and Harry would have know this was to be the case.

I'm not sure what the best way out of this for harry as I do now feel for him Harry must be regretting at least some of the comments

I just hope that once this has blown over they royal family, the brothers etc can be one big happy family again.

Harry needs the money, I can see that and IMO Harry felt he had no choice but to do books/tv etc.

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AsTrickyasAnElephantTrunk · 06/01/2023 15:41

Very interesting that the Author of the book like the below tweet...

Is this the reason why Harry talked about Afghanistan,  25 Taliban dead?
Is this the reason why Harry talked about Afghanistan,  25 Taliban dead?
TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 16:01

@AsTrickyasAnElephantTrunk as in the ghost writer? Rumour is he was sent away with a NDA. Can't imagine he would put his name to this

Bigbadfish · 06/01/2023 16:12

Everything I have learned about these that's has been against my will.

But come on. He's thick as shit! Even I knew that. Best education money can buy and look at the results he came out with.

Dressed up as a Nazi.....

He's only a Prince because he was born that way. Put him in any other family and he'd be nothing. Amount to not much and probably be classed as the family twat.

Iamwhatiam52 · 06/01/2023 16:16

Octopusmittens · 06/01/2023 14:38

I think it was done deliberately so that the RF are forced to pay for his Protection.

Yep absolutely right!

Ohnonevermind · 06/01/2023 16:28

He may get protection but then will he have to live where he’s told ?

Bigbadfish · 06/01/2023 16:30

Ohnonevermind · 06/01/2023 16:28

He may get protection but then will he have to live where he’s told ?

And hopefully shut the fuck up!

YesterYay · 06/01/2023 16:36

Is the blame game starting so quickly? Harry is an adult, at least in chronological terms. It's not the publishers' job to babysit him. This is what happens when you find freedom to make yourself a commodity.
^This

Surely his wife read the draft? Surely she must have realised what this could lead to?

I'm not sure, she would have realised this, they are all about speaking their truth, not how the audience perceives it. They expect to be right, loved and adored as long as they think they are 'true to themselves'. She will probably cotton on now though and he will get a hell of a telling of. Meghan has now a good excuse to leave him.

FrenchFancie · 06/01/2023 16:37

Not military myself but father was military and have worked closely with military and ex military in the past.
My understanding about how the military people I know view killing others is that you don’t brag about it, it’s a thing you have had to do, it’s not nice, it’s not exciting, but it was deemed necessary at the time and it’s a thing you live quietly with.
i suspect most of the people PH served with will be quietly horrified by his statements.

TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 16:48

"I'm not sure, she would have realised this, they are all about speaking their truth, not how the audience perceives it. They expect to be right, loved and adored as long as they think they are 'true to themselves'. She will probably cotton on now though and he will get a hell of a telling of. Meghan has now a good excuse to leave him"

@YesterYay I think it's got her written all over it.

TW: Some of the writing is definitely her. The miscarriage burial under a tree (which is illegal in CA) singing to the seals, hands on Diana's grave weeping, lip gloss?!??

Yes she certainly does have an excuse to leave him, evidence for a divorce and to keep the kids for sure. Call me cynical but he's being hung out to dry imo

TiddyTidTwo · 06/01/2023 16:50

"And who will pay for his former colleagues’ protection ?"

@BethJ62 he hasn't given them a second thought!

Megan1992xx · 06/01/2023 16:50

If he is subsequently whacked many will say it is just karma.
How about 'reconciling' with all those Afghan children he orphaned?