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Is this the reason why Harry talked about Afghanistan, 25 Taliban dead?

156 replies

Abigail69 · 06/01/2023 09:23

Why did he say this, surely he knew he'd make himself a bigger target.

So, in your opinion, what was the reason behind this?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11604941/Harry-painted-target-comments-killing-25-Taliban-ex-Army-colonel-says.html

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Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 10:05

surely his wife read the draft? Surely she must have realised what this could lead to?

I dont get how this was allowed to happen.

User12453315 · 06/01/2023 10:06

Quisquam · 06/01/2023 09:56

I can’t believe, he doesn’t think back to the attack on Salman Rushdie, was it last year?

He's 38 and has never been smart. Chances are zero that he has read anything by Salman Rushdie or have an awareness of the Satanic Verses (published well before his time). The attack last year was probably chalked up to a freak incident and he never connected it to SM inciting the Taliban. But judging by publishing timelines, it's also possible the book was already done by the time the attack happened.

I wonder what he tried to change after returning the USA after the Queen's funeral. Despite all the silly stuff like dog bowls and broken necklaces, the Taliban part is by far the most stupid and dangerous. Maybe someone tipped him off how fucking insane it is to include something like that but it was too late.

SnottyLottie · 06/01/2023 10:06

@AsTrickyasAnElephantTrunk

Colonel Richard Kemp has deemed the comments “ill judged” and it appears he is
claiming part of it as untrue (the part about not treating them as human).

” I think they're probably ill-judged for two reasons. One is his suggestion that he killed 25 people will have reincited those people who wish him harm.

The other problem I found with his comments was that he characterised the British Army basically as having trained him and other soldiers to see his enemy as less than human, just as chess pieces on a board to be swiped off, which is not the case. It's the opposite of the case."

He added it was these comments "in particular" that could "incite some people to attempt an attack on British soldiers anywhere in the world".

Source: news.sky.com/story/prince-harrys-ill-judged-comments-could-incite-an-attack-against-british-soldiers-retired-colonel-says-12780942

Redglitter · 06/01/2023 10:09

Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 09:33

He has been badly let down by editors and publishers. Who the hell allows someone to publicly say something like that? I think its so unfair that both of this couple have been put in positions to be highly ridiculed and endangered by publishers who would never have accepted such crap from anyone else. Its reverse discrimination. And it could prove to be lethal

Neither he or Meghan strike me as the types who would take advice on board.

purpledalmation · 06/01/2023 10:14

A senior army officer said it was not the way British soldiers should talk about the number of taliban killed because they are still people and combatants. To call them chess pieces is disrespectful. IMO it has also opened Harry up to retaliation by terrorists. Bloody stupid if you are worried about security.

Does Harry ever actually think?

Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 10:17

Redglitter · 06/01/2023 10:09

Neither he or Meghan strike me as the types who would take advice on board.

but if I wrote a book and sent it to a publisher, it wouldn't be up to me to "take advice onboard" - the opinion of the editor and publisher would be imposed. It should have been imposed here too

StormzyinaTCup · 06/01/2023 10:19

” I think they're probably ill-judged for two reasons. One is his suggestion that he killed 25 people will have reincited those people who wish him harm.

The other problem I found with his comments was that he characterised the British Army basically as having trained him and other soldiers to see his enemy as less than human, just as chess pieces on a board to be swiped off, which is not the case. It's the opposite of the case."

He added it was these comments "in particular" that could "incite some people to attempt an attack on British soldiers anywhere in the world".

Jeez, that's not going to be easy for him to read, he cares deeply for the armed services (probably more so than his family). If there is something that is going to tip him over the edge and for him to think WTAF have I done, then this might be it. What an idiot he is being.

Ohnonevermind · 06/01/2023 10:20

These comments seem ill judged. Could they cost him Invictus?

Abigail69 · 06/01/2023 10:22

Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 10:05

surely his wife read the draft? Surely she must have realised what this could lead to?

I dont get how this was allowed to happen.

My apologies, you make a valid and should have been the obvious point. I therefore conclude that those paying Harry may have insisted what parts stay in etc. However, Harry could have said, no. You made a very valid point.

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barneshome · 06/01/2023 10:22

No - he is just as big a moron as his attention seeking partner

Talia99 · 06/01/2023 10:29

AsTrickyasAnElephantTrunk · 06/01/2023 09:38

I would be interested to hear what people who currently serve (or have served) in the armed forces think about these comments. I have no military background or experience but my gut reaction to these comments was quite visceral. Whilst I have no doubt what he said is true, it just seemed so distasteful to say it. Comparing people to chess pieces.

I realise that many of the quotes coming from the book are from a Spanish version - translated into English. I just hope that a lot of this is 'lost in translation' and it reads differently in the English version.

Incredibly stupid to raise his families risk profile in this manner. It also angers me as it sort of raises security threat for all of the British - one of our Princes bragging about killing Muslims. It just takes one nut case to want to take revenge.

Is he bragging or is he talking about the damage it does to a person psychologically to be desensitised to the enemy soldier and taught to see him as an object? In a book in which he discusses his life, I’m fairly sure most people would see killing people in combat and the effect it has on a person as important. If he’s bragging, that’s awful but I will reserve judgment until I see the book.

Also, all the people saying he has put a target on his back need to stop assuming the relevant terrorist groups are stupid. Once his service came out, it would be quite easy to work out which engagements he participated in. Harry has had a target on his back from the day it was revealed he served in a war zone and I’d be astounded if it wasn’t already well known in terrorist circles that he killed enemy combatants while serving.

Beautiful3 · 06/01/2023 10:39

I think his reasoning behind it was to highlight why, he wanted the tax payers to continue funding his security whilst visiting the UK. He's trying to explain that he is a target because of killing some members of the taliban, and for being a member if the Royal family. However security costs millions of pounds, and it comes from tax payers money. He cannot have it, if he no longer officially represents the royal family.

viques · 06/01/2023 10:40

It’s very shortsighted for someone who a couple of months ago was moaning that his family would not be safe if they came to the UK and stayed for three days in a royal palace with wall to wall security to proudly boast that he is personally responsible for the deaths of 25 people. Who have friends, who have relatives, and who come from a culture where family honour, taking revenge and long term family feuds is the norm. The dates he was in Afghanistan are known, anyone who lost a relative in a helicopter attack will know when they died and probably won’t care whose hand was on the trigger as long as someone is held responsible.

Talk about painting targets on your kids backs for eternity. What a stupid man.

RudsyFarmer · 06/01/2023 10:44

Hasn’t he also made his compatriots targets too?

trucklebrunch · 06/01/2023 10:47

He has zero self preservation skills.

purpledalmation · 06/01/2023 10:49

I think he put it in as a refutation that he hadn't left camp and was protected with his own security. Still dumb.

rumship · 06/01/2023 10:50

Well he's certainly managing to stir the pot AGAIN looking at the comments.

(MN forum puts arabic letters in %**)

www.alquds.co.uk/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D9%87%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A-%D9%8A%D8%AB%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D8%BA%D8%B6%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%8B-%D8%A8%D8%B9%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%81%D9%87-%D8%A8%D9%80/

Calphurnia88 · 06/01/2023 11:22

Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 09:33

He has been badly let down by editors and publishers. Who the hell allows someone to publicly say something like that? I think its so unfair that both of this couple have been put in positions to be highly ridiculed and endangered by publishers who would never have accepted such crap from anyone else. Its reverse discrimination. And it could prove to be lethal

I've defended H&M for a lot longer than most (based on conversations with friends and what you read online), but this latest round of coverage - entirely brought upon by the actions of H&M - is pretty indefensible.

To blame the publishers is a HUGE reach.

MichelleScarn · 06/01/2023 11:33

SnottyLottie · 06/01/2023 10:06

@AsTrickyasAnElephantTrunk

Colonel Richard Kemp has deemed the comments “ill judged” and it appears he is
claiming part of it as untrue (the part about not treating them as human).

” I think they're probably ill-judged for two reasons. One is his suggestion that he killed 25 people will have reincited those people who wish him harm.

The other problem I found with his comments was that he characterised the British Army basically as having trained him and other soldiers to see his enemy as less than human, just as chess pieces on a board to be swiped off, which is not the case. It's the opposite of the case."

He added it was these comments "in particular" that could "incite some people to attempt an attack on British soldiers anywhere in the world".

Source: news.sky.com/story/prince-harrys-ill-judged-comments-could-incite-an-attack-against-british-soldiers-retired-colonel-says-12780942

He is a fucking idiot with this, according to ex and current forces people I know. Not only looking at Salman Rushdie but also at the violent murder of Lee Rigby. I'm appalled by Harry's crass boasting.

Pansypotter123 · 06/01/2023 11:41

Great.....

Taliban taunts 'loser' Prince Harry after he revealed he killed 25
mol.im/a/11606051

Ohnonevermind · 06/01/2023 11:41

@MichelleScarn

do services people think he can stay on as head of invictus now ?

MichelleScarn · 06/01/2023 11:48

@Ohnonevermind DH has just said, hopefully unlikely or he will but not be liked or welcomed, although this probably won't be shown, much in the way it was shown how pleased those who served with him allegedly were!

SnottyLottie · 06/01/2023 12:17

*sake

SnottyLottie · 06/01/2023 12:20

I know it looks like the same link I posted before but it’s been updated and the Taliban have responded to his comments