Meghan WAS banned from Balmoral after Queen’s death

[SnottyLottie]

In his book, Harry also claims that his father told him that Meghan should not come to Balmoral. The Queen was staying at her Scottish estate when she died last September.

The prince wrote: "Then my father called again. He told me I was welcome at Balmoral, but… without her. He started to explain his reasons, but they didn't make any sense at all, and it was disrespectful as well. I did not tolerate it from him.

"Don't even think about talking about my wife like that.

"Repentant, he said, stammering, that he simply didn't want the place to be full of people. Nobody's wife was going to go, not even Kate, he told me, so Meg shouldn't either."

source: news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-asked-his-father-not-to-marry-camilla-as-moment-he-was-told-about-his-mothers-car-accident-revealed-in-book-12780602

I’m just astonished either of them thought it appropriate.

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My take is that HMTQ was clearly elderly and likely unwell but in decent enough health just 48hrs prior to stand and appoint new PM. Her family knew she was deteriorating most of the summer but I think the actual timing would have been a shock and I think events happened quickly. Charles was in Dumfries he went by helicopter back to Balmoral. Anne was in Scotland on official business and near/at balmoral coincidentally already. Both their spouses were in and around balmoral also due to this. Andrew and Edward being her other children and Sophie being her other DIL (whom was close to her and had been in family many many years) were called to come to Balmoral that morning once doctors confirmed things really were not looking positive.

I think all the grandchildren would have been informed at this time also but no plans made for them to go to balmoral. Although doctors did suggest this was the end they wouldn’t have known with certainly. I’m sure I’m not the only one with experience of being called to care homes or hospitals to say goodbye to elderly relatives only to find them very much alive for days or weeks after (or indeed many more years on cases!)

So that leaves William. I believe he’s be summoned to Balmoral not just because he was a grandson but more because of his constitutional role. If she hadn’t died that day and had eg had a stroke Counsellors of State would have been needed. This needs TWO so Charles and William (this happened at opening of parliament too W had to attend not just C) hence Williams presence was needed at balmoral to fulfill this role should it be needed.

Of course as we know her death came relatively quickly that same day so in event no CoS was needed as death resulted in KC.

I think grandchildren was asked to come to say their personal goodbyes then. I believe the family were all together the next day - certainly I remember seeing Beatrice, Eugenie, Zara and Louise (who has just started at St Andrews Uni and was drive to balmoral from there). I’m sure Peter and James were there (not 100% on Peter). There was clear a family gathering to have private goodbyes and to come together on the day or two that followed. With the exception of KC and W who returned to London for their duties. I’m sure they’d have rather stayed with the wider family having private time together.

So that leaves our much discussed Harry. Likely what he said is partially true (so many of his tales have just that slight hint of truth to them but never the full story) and he wasn’t invited that specific day and moment. He was called to be informed just like all the other grandchildren. HE then immediately assumed he and Meghan should be going to
Balmoral (he said he contacted William on this). W calls his father to inform him. C agrees H can come to balmoral but not M as none of wider grandchild going at that point. H has hump until C says even Kate isn’t going then H immediate backs down and says okay I’ll come alone. By this time the flight is ready to go so no there isn’t a seat for you now as we are going now!! He he interprets as not being invited on plane!

He arrives in balmoral sulking. Says a “private” goodbye to his gran and ignores his dad and brother. Flies out shamefully early the next morning without waiting for rest or wider family to all mourn together.

Simple and totally made up by me but makes as much sense as any other story out there!!

It was clear from the photo of the Queen she was deteriorating and unlikely to live long. But just as many people on MN dismissed the obvious signs and insisted she could live to 107, so family often are in denial when it is clear a parent is coming towards the end of their life.

Spot on I think.

Yes she looked extremely frail
in photograph but that doesn’t necessarily mean she was going to die within 48hrs!!! No one is saying she’d reach 107 just that even though she was elderly and frail her death still came quickly in the end. As happens often.

@DuckBored I think it was obvious she was unlikely to live for more than a few months and it may have been much sooner.

The fact remains that MM had no business being there. H should not have expected it.

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But that link was to a statement from Prince Harry’s secretary. (Dated November 2016). Harry mentioned it in one of his interviews. I think there may even have been a shot of it.

Where are the ones from the Queen, Charles & William?

So Harry's press officer released a statement defending Meghan. Exactly what you would expect. Silence from the other Royal Family members though.

There was total silence when the tabloids were laying into Sophie, Camilla and Kate. No statements from anyone. Why, with one statement issued, would other members add more? Especially when there was no precedent.

Page 32 of this thread, 13.08 yesterday afternoon - lots of instances of the palace issuing statements in support of Meghan. Go and have a look. It doesn't support your narrative though.

If the palace didn’t endorse it, they wouldn’t have allowed it to be published on the entire royal family website.

If/if the reports that she had a blood cancer are correct, then that is probably something you die with rather than of. If myeloma, one would become frail (it often affects the bones) and it can cause considerable pain.

So my guess is that something else bodily failed, because of old age, that morning and by lunchtime it was known there was very little time remaining.

It must have been awful waiting an hour for a plane to take off, not knowing if you can get there in time. As it turns out, the delay made no difference. But they wouldn't have known that then

I am a pretty empathetic person. And getting old. My age does not confer on my children any immunity from criticism of what they might have done or said.

The Queen worked hard apparently and was devoted to duty. It’s a pity so many members of her family did not do as she did. Perhaps the transition of the crown from Elizabeth to Charles would have proceeded more smoothly if at least her two oldest sons had been more like her?

It’s not gone unnoticed that Anne is a hard worker and she’s well respected from what I can gather. Hmmm…. I’m beginning to wonder if these royal men are up to the job at all? Should they bow out and leave it to the womenfolk?

The reports were bone cancer.

When my mum was dying, it was only my brothers and I that went to her bedside. I love my husband and my sister in law, but it just felt right for it to be my brother's and I only. We had been through a lot as a family and that's how it felt right at the time. Death is a stressful time and the decisions you make at such times are born from the heart. They are not intended to offend anyone, they are just powerful emotions speaking.

My husband and my sil were lovely about not been invited to the bedside. They respected our wishes and would have had no intention of making a fuss. They love us as much as we love them, and understood our decision and our grief.

Megan should b respectful and support her husband to respect his family and their wishes.

I heard this from Lady CC.
I know people just dismiss her but she does seem to have the goss.

I quite like her, in a fascinating, pantomime villain type way.

I actually think that is pretty accurate . It was reported that he didn’t dine with C and W and he must have been up very early to catch the first flight out of Aberdeen .

Harry is being very sly with his choice of words on this matter skipping over glaring facts.

for all we know the Queen may have specifically instructed who could be there and who not, in fact I would be certain that she would have! Most elderly people don’t want a clatter of relatives around their deathbed especially squabbling ones.

none of the other grandchildren were there except for William her 2nd heir, and her counsellor of state.

and what did Harry plan to do if he had been in the US at the time which was the most likely scenario all along? In all forward planning he would have been expected a day or 2 later

It’s not gone unnoticed that Anne is a hard worker and she’s well respected from what I can gather. Hmmm…. I’m beginning to wonder if these royal men are up to the job at all? Should they bow out and leave it to the womenfolk?

Watching the Wales children at various public events I've wished Charlotte had been the first-born

Not only was it from Frostbite’s private secretary - but it spoke of the “hounding” his gf had received by the press and she’d had to call the police from her home in Toronto.

unfortunately the recollections of the RCMP varied and they could find no record of such incident(s).

furthermore - at that time - 99% of people didn’t even know Frostbite had a girlfriend so had to go Google.

At which point they stumbled across the photos a kind DM photographer had taken as she walked up and down multiple slow and deliberate times past the DM office.

That was also the first time he called the British public racist - and as I mentioned above, most were scratching their heads wondering wtf.

‘‘tis all very murky.

“the smear on the front page of a national newspaper; the racial undertones of comment pieces; and the outright sexism and racism of social media trolls and web article comments”

This is the only bit I can find in the statement that mentions racism and it’s applied to ‘comment pieces…..racism of media trolls and web article comments.’

He’s not wrong.

But he did not call the British public racist.

Why is there more outrage at accusations of racism than there is outrage at actual racism?

The rest of it…I don’t care.

I asked ‘Where are the statements from the Queen, Charles & William?’

Of course she wasn't invited. Neither was Kate. I don't see the issue here. They're the RF they can't have a bustling house full of people as the Queen lay unwell and they're getting ready to invoke London Bridge procedure.