To wonder if the allegations Harry has made against his brother might be true?

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We put the royal family on a pedestal, however they are a family with potential issues and dysfunction like a lot of families have.

I just find myself wondering if these allegations might have some truth behind them and what that might mean for the future of the royal family.

I also wonder what Dianna would think of this feud between her two boys. I expect she would be very sad…

Imagine being loved equally by your parents but everyone else deferring just that little bit more to your older brother who would be party to special treatment, like special teas at your grandmother's which didn't include you

imagine being the child everyone indulged because his brother was smarter, ester looking, easier to get along with. Getting away with all sorts of things because “aww, poor Harry, it isn’t easy for him”

william lost his mother at a young age too.
William was the child who sat and listened to Diana crying, passing tissues under the door
William has had just as much (actually more) unwanted press attention than Harry
Harry is the brother known to have a temper, not William

even yesterday, Harry had to try to bring William into his court case.

Harry doesn’t seem happy, despite his incredibly privileged life. If he wanted, he could stay out of the public eye completely.

he’s had a lot of trauma that his therapists don’t seem able to deal with.

I wonder why a poster resurrected this zombie thread from January 🤔

I don't think the OP meant that she personally had them on a pedestal, but rather that the general public did. Many people do. It's a bit weird. The outpouring of grief when Diana died was very strange.

Maybe because Harry made several references to William yesterday?

What political career? Surely she isn't thinking of president??? As for Nazi uniform, all three of them, H, W and M, had parts to play in the selection of the costume. All were naive and unthinking, but Harry carried the can while butter wouldn't melt in the mouths of the other two. H doesn't hate W or K, but is tired of being sacrificed all the time. W sees it differently. He doesn't see it as leaving H to take the blame, but is just following the rule 'Never complain , never explain.'

I don't think H is being unreasonable in bringing this up, but he's unnecessarily spiteful in referring to Andrew's misdemeanors. Of course, Andrew doesn't deserve any consideration, but his daughters do. I'm surprised Eugenie still speaks to him.

She died of a rare form of cancer. She was a tough woman and saw a lot worse in her life than two bickering grandsons.

That is pure speculation about her death. And contradicted by her death certificate.

Harrys words and actions would wound any close family member. one of the very few times QEII ever publically commented on any family matter was when she said “recollections may vary”. That says it all. From her it was basically lies a two-faced shit”, as Harry might put it. (Not that I disagree with his assessment of PB)

it wasn’t two bickering grandsons, it was Harry against the world, dragging his family into his own mess.

Equally speculative to assume that all this had any impact on her death. She was very old, and H couldn't have caused her intermittent mobility issues, which fit exactly with the kind of cancer indicated. We'll never know, but it was most likely the Palace that leaked the cancer story to the press. At the time of death they may not have been ready to reveal it. However she may just have died of being a frail and elderly woman.

@Idontpostmuch You do realise don't you, that this is all Harry's version of events? Harry admits he tells 'his truth'. His truth may not contain any actual 'facts'. In fact Harry and Meghan both have a serious issue with 'facts'. The only real fact is they are both proven and prolific liars.

I dont think it really matters if true or not. What family doesn't have tension, royal or otherwise.

Most families who have upsets and tensions don't go on worldwide TV putting 'their side' of the dispute, (knowing the 'other side' will not retaliate) and make millions of dollars in the process. Adding insult to injury by lying prolifically. Sorry, that statement just doesn't cut it.

Okay?

Perhaps you could have mentioned which allegations you're talking about, OP?

If, as PPs seem to think, you mean the "dog bowl incident" we don't know because we weren't there and William's (understandably) saying nowt

So starting from the position of not being able to know we're just left with Harry's own account, and given his countless other "inconsistencies" that's not something I'd want to take on trust - or to put it another way, if someone's shown themselves to be a liar, don't be surprised if you've lost your audience on occasions when you might be telling the truth

Why would BP leak info about QEIIs death?
who could possibly benefit from that?

Harrys well-publicised strops and tantrums - what impact might these have on an elderly lady, recently bereaved of the man she loved for over 80s? Nobody would ever say it would be negligible. She was know for being reticent and cautious and valued privacy. Harry deliberately aimed all his barbs at the thing she loved most - her family - and in doing so, he also aimed them at her

Just yesterday, Harry claimed he never walked in the street, totally forgetting he had spoken about doing just that in an interview!

he is the archetypal “unreliable witness”

right now, his truth/Harry’s truth seems like a logical impossibility.

He never claimed that he never walked on streets, but that he "doesn't". Two different things.

He mentioned he walked on streets in his book, when he was shopping at TK Maxx and with Meghan in Waitrose! (In disguise.) But he also said he couldn't get out of the car when he was late for his first date because he couldn't just run down the street. So technically not lying.

“I don’t walk on streets,” Harry says, explaining he has to travel by car for security reasons as he is spotted wherever he goes.

Harry says in court that “I don’t walk on streets”, but elsewhere he happily talks about walking on streets.
Plus there are loads of photos.
it is an either/or situation.

he either walks on streets (as we know he does) or he doesn’t walk on street (which we know is untrue)

he says one thing but it is patently false. Which is a lie.

either that or “his truth” means “whatever it suits me to say at the time”

@TrashyPanda An intelligent person would see that he means he doesn't walk on streets, usually. You are clutching at straws.

Plus you have contradicted yourself as in your earlier comment you said he said he "never" walked on streets. He never said never. And he has talked about walking on streets in his book, like I explained above.

it is an either/or situation.

No, it is not, unless he said "never". Which he didn't.

I mean, he kind of implied ‘never’ didn’t he?

Wasn’t it, ‘Is it possible they could have seen you walking down the street?’
’No, because I don’t walk down the street’

That implies he never walks down the street, because surely, if he did, albeit infrequently, the answer is yes, it would have been possible?

@TrashyPanda Don't engage. They are trying to derail with endless challenges to your post. We understand what you are saying and this is just another attempt to cause issues with MNHQ.

@polkadotdalmation excuse me? So anyone who disagrees with any of "you" is "derailing", is it? So what you expect is an echo chamber where you all just agree with each other? Sorry, it doesn't work like that. It's a public forum and we are all allowed to post our opinions and disagree with each other.

MNHQ please note, I am not derailing, I merely replied to another post, on topic. Polkadot's comments are much more of a derailment than mine.

Obviously you were not derailing as you were responding to someone else's point and having a different view of what is meant. People always twist other peoples words when its someone they do not like. Harry rarely walks down the street, and not just him, William isn't casually walking down the street either! they wpiudl likely remember a casual walk to the pub, because its not a usual or regular thing I imagine.

Not engaging.