To wonder if the allegations Harry has made against his brother might be true?

[pearlearringgirl]

We put the royal family on a pedestal, however they are a family with potential issues and dysfunction like a lot of families have.

I just find myself wondering if these allegations might have some truth behind them and what that might mean for the future of the royal family.

I also wonder what Dianna would think of this feud between her two boys. I expect she would be very sad…

Meghan's an experienced actress. I can never work out if she's genuine or carrying on acting. I don't see how we can know what she's really like. To a lesser extent those born royal have been playing parts since birth. They're a product.

@Cranberrystreet

Yes to your post at 09.11

I find it dreadful that those three little kids are scrutinised like they are. Only a few weeks ago, three journos were on the sofa, one of whom was Lorraine Kelly who actually called little Louis 'the family clown'... and the other journos laughed and another one called him 'the naughty one'.
How dreadful to be labelled like that? Because I bet you that label will stick for the rest of his life, and when you are labelled like that you tend to subconsciously live up to it (black sheep of the family, the loud one, the naughty one etc)
What a fine line the RF tread in their relationship with the media. They need it to appear relevant but they can't control it (except on odd occasions when they use lawyers to block articles). Without the media, the pretty frocks and all of that gawking at them... the public will ask 'what on earth are they for' so the media machine rolls on...

It was neither an attack or bullying. It was an opinion on someone else's words, which is what the forum is all about. If you think its an issue, report it.

I would have thought a stable democracy is the very thing that allows people the freedom to discuss different ideas and ways of running the country and to have a full and open debate without that in any way being a threat or an attack on the security or stability of the country.

Some of us would simply prefer that the uk was a meritocracy where people are not elevated because of an accident of birth but by the efforts of their own hands. And where one family are not subject to inhuman levels of press scrutiny.

I totally agree about Brexit but the referendum was run very poorly. The “yes” or “no” question was ridiculously simplistic and divisive for such a complex question.

In other countries, referendums held to settle important issues have consisted of various rounds of questions and certain percentages have to be reached in each category to determine a full consensus. And people are educated about the issues in advance.

Just because the Brexit referendum was so controversial shouldn’t mean that all debate on the future of our country should be stifled. We should be able to manage debate in a grown up manner like other European countries. The fact that this is difficult in the UK points to the fact that the power of the press has got out of hand?

And I don’t think that all republicans support H and M or tie them to a “higher cause” particularly (to quote Tigger2022) but I do think it is good that Harry is trying to protect his family, and that he is questioning how some things are run.

I’d be more concerned about how an incompetent like Liz Truss and a liar like Boris ended up with the most powerful job in the country.

Come off it.

this is bullying

What nasty personal things exactly? If you are talking about me I hope I don’t say nasty personal things about anyone

i was not the person who said anything. I was wrongly attacked. And that is bullying.

try to deny bullying is as bad as bullying

It’s hardly a meritocracy if you look at the background of PM’s

I repeat it was a genuine mistake.

Mumsnet HQ will confirm that I am a long term poster and I am not in the habit of bullying anyone.

When I reply to posts, I tend to look at the content of the post rather than a poster’s name.

I repeat, if you feel you are being bullied then please report it yourself.

It is not my wish to upset anyone.

I would even be very polite to a member of the RF if I met one of them!

That’s it

i cannot cope with this systemic bullying

I'm so bored with how these boards degenerate. Accusations of bullying and racism. Denials of bullying and racism. And no one ever lets anything go. I really don't the 99.9% of people on here are either bullies or racists. And I don't think anyone is deliberately trying to be nasty or hurt anyone. Sometimes people just get a bit frustrated and it's easy to write things that can be misunderstood. As long as people apologise if they've made a mistake, can't we just move on.

I'll debate republicanism v monarchy if you like @Cranberrystreet . There are a couple of posters on here who I have debated with. Be warned, though. No one ever changes their mind! 😂

what on earth?? I do not read anything nasty or attacking in @Cranberrystreet post at all. If you agree with a posters post, then you can expect to be challenged on the sentiment I think, as you agree with it, and she merely asked was it her the poster was talking about? I think its unfair to accuse such a polite poster of being a bully to you.

TrashyPanda honestly I am totally confused here.

I was asking what nasty personal things republicans say about the senior royals.

And I said that when posting on Mumsnet in general (as in ordinary life) I hope that I am not nasty to anyone (meaning I try to treat others respectfully).

You have answered the question in another post mentioning William’s supposed affair and accusations about him allegedly having a temper, so you must have understand what I meant?

How does this constitute bullying? I genuinely don’t understand?

I am happy that you report me to Mumsnet HQ because I haven’t done anything wrong except attach my reply to the wrong quotation. A mistake which is easily made.

I hope this isn’t the case but are you deliberately causing this issue to shut down discussion about a republic? Apologies if I am mistaken but I don’t understand what is happening here!

Thank you Iwantcakeeveryday appreciate it.

Gracewithoutend happy to! 😃.

(But first, I think it’s best if everyone cools down and I need to go the supermarket so I will leave the discussion for a bit. I am also dismayed and bored by how the discussion deteriorates so rapidly.)

Unfair and reported!

Accusing people of bullying without good cause is certainly an effective way of stifling Republican debate.

goodness me!

I think it is so unfair to target @Cranberrystreet like this. Does an apology for attaching a post to the wrong poster mean nothing?

I once mistakenly when I was half asleep linked an article from Grazia about W&K. I apologised profusely over the years maybe 12 times. It is still brought up as a stick to beat me with.
Apologies mean nothing on here if someone dislikes your viewpoint so much they will use anything to berate you with

I know! 😃

Time for lunch I think! 😂

That’s not true @Roussette

you said ‘in your opinion William had an affair’

Thanks Rousette that’s kind of you, and sorry you have experienced something similar.

Happily, I am busy with things other than Mumsnetting this afternoon.

We are all entitled to opinions but passing judgement on others saying ‘I wouldn’t do that’ when you did is rather hypocritical

Are you talking about the Grazia article from years ago, if so what's the point?

Or are you talking about the time W and H had the fisticuffs and I said maybe W did have an affair and that's what they were arguing about.
Once just ONCE I said that Months ago. Well done for remembering and bringing it up all this time later. What that has to do with anything god alone knows.

Be the way I don't need to justify myself to you and I have NO IDEA what you mean by passing judgement on others apart from to say apologies mean nothing with certain people, however much you do it. Fact

this thread is funny, someone who constantly rips a woman apart , is saying they are the victim lol.

@Cranberrystreet @Roussette YOLO:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4830989-abolishing-the-monarchy