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To wonder if the allegations Harry has made against his brother might be true?

576 replies

pearlearringgirl · 05/01/2023 14:20

We put the royal family on a pedestal, however they are a family with potential issues and dysfunction like a lot of families have.

I just find myself wondering if these allegations might have some truth behind them and what that might mean for the future of the royal family.

I also wonder what Dianna would think of this feud between her two boys. I expect she would be very sad…

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3WildOnes · 05/01/2023 14:53

I definitely don't think physical violence is normal between adult siblings. William sounds like a right ruffian.

Heatherjayne1972 · 05/01/2023 14:55

This is only one side of the story tho - Williams story might be very different, while the actual truth is somewhere in the middle

Also is in a book written by people who are known to exaggerate and don’t forget the ghostwriter who is paid ( presumably) by a publishing house to make it sound more explosive than it was
to sell said book

AuntieMarys · 05/01/2023 14:55

Testina · 05/01/2023 14:36

@pearlearringgirl “We put the royal family on a pedestal”

No love, we don’t.

Exactly. Entitled ridiculous institution

Prescottdanni123 · 05/01/2023 15:02

My dog has a ceramic water bowl. If someone shoved me hard enough for it fall on it, I wouldn't be ringing my therapist. I'd be making my way to hospital with severe lacerations and to get the shards removed.

Prescottdanni123 · 05/01/2023 15:03

@3WildOnes

Harry always tells the truth, does he?

Georgeskitchen · 05/01/2023 15:04

Anyone read the fill your boots army banter page on Facebook? The comments (as usual) are hilarious 😂
Trigger warning: not for the pearlclutchers 😉

GatoradeMeBitch · 05/01/2023 15:14

I think he's being truthful. However it ends his relationship with his family, because they won't be able to trust him anymore. Any interaction they have with him could be material for his next book. And I don't know what he thinks this will do for him either. He seems to think he's impressively relatable, but the way the Netflix series ended was an eye-roller. Looking out at the grounds of the LA mansion a rich friend was letting them live in for free and saying "There's a world in which this could be our home..." like he's not a multi millionaire.

I'm loving that the Daily Mail website crashed over this. All those people clamouring to get on the site and enter their "ORF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!" comments.

3WildOnes · 05/01/2023 15:14

Prescottdanni123 · 05/01/2023 15:03

@3WildOnes

Harry always tells the truth, does he?

I didn't say that. I think it is probably 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other.
They all sound dysfunctional, entitled and frankly quite awful.
I think we should get rid of the whole institution.
Fighting past childhood is pretty rough behaviour.

HelloDaisy · 05/01/2023 15:19

Heatherjayne1972 · 05/01/2023 14:55

This is only one side of the story tho - Williams story might be very different, while the actual truth is somewhere in the middle

Also is in a book written by people who are known to exaggerate and don’t forget the ghostwriter who is paid ( presumably) by a publishing house to make it sound more explosive than it was
to sell said book

Too true, there are always two sides to every story and the truth is in the middle.

It may well have happened but we don’t know what happened before then, like little Johnny complaining to his teacher that Simon hit him whilst neglecting to say that he kicked Simon first!

I just don’t understand the need to put it all out to the public. Dh had a fight a few years ago with his brothers but none of them felt the urge to put it on Facebook! They quietly sorted it out afterwards and are fine now.

PicturesOfDogs · 05/01/2023 15:21

He called William his ‘beloved brother and arch-nemesis’ in his book, according to a good morning America snippet, which airs Monday.

He says ‘there’s always been completion between them… weirdly’

Its not weird Harry, we can all see you’re in some mad competition with your brother.
He thinks he invented brotherly conflict now, this is a story as old as time.

NameOchangeO1 · 05/01/2023 15:22

I think it probably is true

I also think outside of their family it really doesn't matter.

Prescottdanni123 · 05/01/2023 15:23

@3WildOnes

If it happened the way Harry says that it did or if it even happened at all.

If I fell on my dog's ceramic bowl with enough force to break it, I would be going to be hospital with the kind of injuries that would cause.

amyneedssleep · 05/01/2023 15:34

I actually think a lot of people who really hate Harry believe it's true. They just think it's a good thing. "Good on you, William, you were clearly provoked and acted like a real masculine man should!" That type of thing. It's telling that a lot of these people have fixated on and laughed about the necklace detail, even going so far as to call Harry effeminate over it (on another thread.)

There's a championing of toxic masculinity on here today and it makes for very uncomfortable browsing. All I know is that if one of my male friends told me their brother grabbed at him aggressively and caused him to fall over, the last reaction I'd have is to laugh about it and say "that's just what brothers do!"

pearlearringgirl · 05/01/2023 15:37

amyneedssleep · 05/01/2023 15:34

I actually think a lot of people who really hate Harry believe it's true. They just think it's a good thing. "Good on you, William, you were clearly provoked and acted like a real masculine man should!" That type of thing. It's telling that a lot of these people have fixated on and laughed about the necklace detail, even going so far as to call Harry effeminate over it (on another thread.)

There's a championing of toxic masculinity on here today and it makes for very uncomfortable browsing. All I know is that if one of my male friends told me their brother grabbed at him aggressively and caused him to fall over, the last reaction I'd have is to laugh about it and say "that's just what brothers do!"

Exactly, I have 4 siblings and we don’t always agree with each other but we have never been violent… I don’t think violence is normal in a family

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Chinesewhisperss · 05/01/2023 15:43

LadyHarmby · 05/01/2023 14:30

I doubt he’d include them if there wasn’t some truth in it. It’s a hell of a thing to make up.

He would be done for slander if they weren't true. If it's true, the only thing the RF could do is to take out a super injunction and/or make him sign a NDA.

amyneedssleep · 05/01/2023 15:43

pearlearringgirl · 05/01/2023 15:37

Exactly, I have 4 siblings and we don’t always agree with each other but we have never been violent… I don’t think violence is normal in a family

It definitely isn't normal. Fully grown adult siblings have absolutely no business putting their hands aggressively on each other. Yes, men in particular fight ( not that that's a good thing), but this wasn't even a fight; it was an older brother trying to assert his authority over his younger brother. Horrible.

XanaduKira · 05/01/2023 15:48

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 05/01/2023 14:51

@pearlearringgirl So if Kev and Adam down the road had a fight it would be all over the news because of how unusual it is? Siblings fight and some families are dysfunctional. Most families don't feel the need to run to the press. This the royal equivalent of selling your story to take a break

I think this is the perfect analogy!

Samcro · 05/01/2023 15:58

i can't believe anyone thinks that a man in his late 30's assaulting his brother is ok.

Inkanta · 05/01/2023 15:59

I believe the truth is coming out and I find it interesting that the British Media and the public are claiming they have had enough. When the media spread leaked stories or lies about H&M for months and months they lapped it all up. Prince Harry needs his version of events for future generations. Money is not his primary motive why would it be, - he has things to say and he's determined to speak out.

PicturesOfDogs · 05/01/2023 16:02

Inkanta · 05/01/2023 15:59

I believe the truth is coming out and I find it interesting that the British Media and the public are claiming they have had enough. When the media spread leaked stories or lies about H&M for months and months they lapped it all up. Prince Harry needs his version of events for future generations. Money is not his primary motive why would it be, - he has things to say and he's determined to speak out.

Who’s claiming they’ve had enough? The papers are absolutely loving this!!
Sooo many clicks £££££

BlackFriday · 05/01/2023 16:04

Could not care less. Don't blame William in the slightest and Harry is over-egging his victim status in all of this.

Thisistyresome · 05/01/2023 16:07

pearlearringgirl · 05/01/2023 14:36

I don’t think he would make allegations like that if there wasn’t any truth behind them… I wonder if there will be any response from the palace, or from William himself … If it’s not true surely there would be 🤔

I haven’t been following the William and Harry fallout that closely to be fair but just happened to come across the leaked allegations whilst watching good morning Britain this morning. I knew there was tensions between the brothers but never expected physical violence. Who knows what goes on behind closed doors though.

Like H&M making claims that required the Archbishop of Canterbury lied on a legal document, from the Oprah Interview? That would need to have been the case for the “secret marriage in the garden” nonsense. The rate at which their claims fell apart after that interview showed how little that could be verified actually stacked up.

Someone who had a history of lying over and over on a topic is very likely to do so again. Just because it is such a ridiculous action to take doesn’t really matter once someone has a pattern of that behaviour.

Thisistyresome · 05/01/2023 16:09

Samcro · 05/01/2023 15:58

i can't believe anyone thinks that a man in his late 30's assaulting his brother is ok.

Does anyone think William is able to pick up and throw his ex-soldier to the floor so easily? Yeh, that doesn't stack up.

Ineedwinenow · 05/01/2023 16:10

He’s lucky he just pushed him over! The Duke of Clarence at the time was drowned by his brother the king in a vat of wine! He got out of quite well knowing how he’s been behaving towards his family! Yes he might have issues with the family business but to say what he has against the family on the international stage is awful!

MadeInChorley · 05/01/2023 16:18

Mumsfret1976 · 05/01/2023 14:33

I believe they're true but I don't see the big in a scuffle between brothers. I dont know Harry feels the needs to make it public.

This.

Not a lie. Brothers do argue and fall out. His perspective. Yawn.

Harry tells the world because someone offered him £ (or $) and he has no other way to support his lifestyle. Eventually, the story well will run dry. I’m curious - then what?

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