To wonder if the allegations Harry has made against his brother might be true?

[pearlearringgirl]

We put the royal family on a pedestal, however they are a family with potential issues and dysfunction like a lot of families have.

I just find myself wondering if these allegations might have some truth behind them and what that might mean for the future of the royal family.

I also wonder what Dianna would think of this feud between her two boys. I expect she would be very sad…

That's a lot of faith you're putting in him, SoTedious

You have misunderstood my post if you think this @Puzzledandpissedoff

French bartender a frog, told a black comedian he didn't sound black, and has most recently defended lady hussey when she was accused of racism by a black woman. This is despite William’s spokesperson and Buckingham palace condemning her remarks

he also made reference to Ragheads which is a derogatory term that was in use long before British troops were in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Totally. I want a Republic board so that the Monarchy in every which way can be discussed. And the alternatives. Not that the Monarchy is going anywhere, but it is good to discuss, rather than lie down and accept everything pushed at us.

I certainly agree with your last sentence.

Put simply I think it is hugely worrying and frankly quite sad that people get sucked in to believing tabloid versions of well known people and think that it’s ok to trash them continually on line. And how in the uk we are so complacent and complicit in supporting the malign stranglehold and influence that the tabloid press currently has over us. That is all.

Some of us have asked for a Republican board because disccussing no Monarchy really would not work within the RF boards for very many reasons.

I don’t see why not? It would be a really interesting discussion

Oh I'm really sorry. I see how my post could look. I didn't mean I was ignoring POC. I meant I deleted the entire list because it was long and would have taken ages to read and I hadn't expected to post frequently.

I think a Republican board would be a great idea on here Roussette.

One of the main reasons I favour a republic is because, despite endless wealth and privilege , the press intrusion must be torturous for the individuals involved. And the public discussion that the press stories generate just pile on the misery.

It’s bad enough that adults are subjected to this, but for our society to be complicit in allowing children to undergo such an intense degree of public scrutiny is shameful and wrong imho.

Not only do the tabloids make money off selling photographs and writing stories about the RF that are as salacious and divisive and controversial as possible, there are now accounts on Instagram entirely “devoted” to Princess Charlotte, what she wears and how she behaves.

And I saw a post on another thread here criticising Prince Louis and his behaviour. This is a five year old child fhs! There are You Tube videos analysing the body language of all three children. And everyone seems to think that, as our future king, it’s ok to voice an opinion about George’s personality.

No it’s not ok! His personality isn’t formed yet! It’s all so wrong. No children, teens or young adults for that matter should have to live their life on public show. For the sake of what exactly? Why is this deemed acceptable?

I think Harry’s actions are a result of his dismay and disbelief at the amount of press intrusion and the extent of PR games that the monarchy as a whole is willing to engage in, in order to protect the institution, while in turn offering up the individual members, including dc, as sacrificial lambs for public “entertainment”.

And so many of you think that Harry is disrespectful or thick or stupid (or whatever the latest insult about him is) for wanting to get away and for trying to protect his family from this circus? Imho he’s the most sensible of all of them!

Living in a republic it’s not the utopia some seem to think (I’ve lived in the U.K. for a number of years too)

I’d fix your parliament as that’s where the real power lies

Actually, thinking about it, RF is a strange board to have on a parenting site.

That could well be, and I think it would be interesting to debate it properly, but any serious discussion seems to create a pile on and a shutting down of discussion!

Whats’s most worrying, in all seriousness, is that there aren’t many places left where one can voice a serious opinion about it. A bit like the subject of feminism. And in a functioning democracy that’s a bit concerning.

I would have thought that monarchists who value the uk, and the way it is run, would care about freedom of speech if nothing else!

I find it strange that so many of MN's 'republicans' write nasty personal things about the most senior royals and present as staunch Harry and Meghan defenders - despite the fact that Harry and Meghan are actually desperate to be associated with all the unearned trappings and privilege of the RF, even (rather ridiculously) giving their children titles etc.

Why is it any weirder than, say, chicken keepers ? MN has occupied (way too much of) my time for nearly 20 years and it’s nice/helpful/interesting to read about a whole host of things, not just “mummying” .

@cobicat - exactly.

Yep!

And so many of you think that Harry is disrespectful or thick or stupid (or whatever the latest insult about him is) for wanting to get away and for trying to protect his family from this circus? Imho he’s the most sensible of all of them!.

If this were true, why does he present himself as 'HRH Prince Harry' in court and have bespoke doormats made for himself with coronets on them?
So much for 'getting away from the circus'! The only thing he objects to is not being the top acrobat on the billing 🙄

What nasty personal things exactly? If you are talking about me I hope I don’t say nasty personal things about anyone.

The most I have said about any other individual senior members of the royal is criticise how much they have colluded with certain members of the press. That’s not nasty or personal; it’s legitimate comment.

There’s never any decent response from “republican” Fans as to why H&M are such heroes. They conveniently forget about the Sussex Royal half-in, half-out interlude, not to mention everything else, including the kids’ titles.

And then the refrain of “leave them alone, they haven’t done anything, bulllllying!” Clearly H&M actually did quite a lot, and the Fans cheerfully put the boot into anyone else in the rf , not to mention that H&M are hardly ambassadors for “be kind” .

does it matter that MN was set up as a parenting board?
it has moved on. It embraces many topics.

do you find it strange that MN has a board entitled “Childless Mumsnetters”?
or could it be that is a subject that members wish to discuss? Just like the RF.

Exactly @TrashyPanda !

We are a stable democracy & I find it perplexing that people want to question that stability tbh. I’d have thought Brexit would have shown up what happens when the status quo is upset.

I also have asked why H&M are so supported by republicans. If they’d been given the half in half out they wanted, imo the last few years shenanigans would not have happened.

An example of “nasty, personal things” would be accusing William of having a temper, with no evidence, and when it is Harry who has shown his temper in public.

Another would be Accusing William of having an affair.

I think some people just want to tie liking Harry and Meghan to a higher cause but it’s really not necessary. Harry gives me the ick, I think he can’t see his own privilege and he’s completely toxic. I like Meghan, she seems sweet and fun, a lot of her misdemeanours I’m willing to chalk up to being in a relationship with someone toxic, and even her cringey moments I find kind of endearing and dorky. It’s not because of republicanism or anti-imperialism or anti-racism (bc Meghan is none of those things really!) - I like her, I just do. And that’s fine 😁

I apologise.

I attached my answer to the wrong quotation.

A genuine mistake.

I am not bullying anyone.

But if you think you are being bullied, please take it up with Mumsnet Towers.