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Meghan 'offended' for telling Kate she had 'baby brain'

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fartichoke · 05/01/2023 13:27

Well, the Daily Fail have got their hands on a Spanish copy of the ''memoir'', so there is going to be shrapnel flying about from now until kingdom come.

One of these ''revelations'' is that Meghan made a joke about Kate having ''baby brain hormones'' a month after having Louis, which upset Kate, which in turn then upset Meghan.

Can you imagine the Oprah-style feeding frenzy had this been reversed - Kate telling Meghan that she had baby brain and hormones, which would have perfectly tapped into the villainous ice queen depiction that H&M are flogging right now?

Harry is soap operatising the royal family in the most sensational and tabloid dripfeed way possible (calling his brother his 'archnemesis'.

He is shockingly narcissistic, if he thinks this is not also going to also blow up on him and Meghan. The hypocrisy and whole thing is a shit show.

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JustMerkinYourChain · 05/01/2023 17:42

There’s a bit in one of the articles saying that William pointed his finger at Meghan and told her off for saying it and she told him something like ‘get your finger out of my face.’ I quite like her for that. William is starting to come across as insufferably pompous.

toocold54 · 05/01/2023 17:45

These are all sexist terms which demean women on the grounds of their biology implying that they are irrational - just think about the linguistic origins of the word "hysterical".

I disagree.

Being pregnant/having a baby is a massive strain on your body and I think it’s sexist to act like it’s no big deal.

When you are pregnant you do have a range of increases and decreases in hormones and acknowledging this isn’t sexist it’s literally fact.

It used to be that women weren’t allowed to talk about periods in front of men and were seen as dirty (still are in some areas) but by acknowledging what women go through we’ve changed so many attitudes and rightly so.

Some people will try and find anything to be offended about but what’s worse is that it’s always tends to be associated with females that seem to be the ones that most people have an issue with.
Even the word woman is being removed from so many things.

GoingOnce · 05/01/2023 17:45

These are all sexist terms which demean women on the grounds of their biology implying that they are irrational - just think about the linguistic origins of the word "hysterical"

This with bells on.

And it’s only going to get worse now everyone’s talking about menopause all the time.

toocold54 · 05/01/2023 17:46

I also had brain fog from covid - is that offensive too?

awaynboilyurheid · 05/01/2023 17:47

JustMerkinYourChain · 05/01/2023 17:42

There’s a bit in one of the articles saying that William pointed his finger at Meghan and told her off for saying it and she told him something like ‘get your finger out of my face.’ I quite like her for that. William is starting to come across as insufferably pompous.

Except with Meghans “ truth” he was probably across the room when he did it if in fact he actually did it, the lies just keep coming with this pair.

Sunshinegirl82 · 05/01/2023 17:49

toocold54 · 05/01/2023 17:46

I also had brain fog from covid - is that offensive too?

I'd say possibly, if it was used to invalidate your feelings.

MoirasSaggyBundles · 05/01/2023 17:51

toocold54 · 05/01/2023 17:46

I also had brain fog from covid - is that offensive too?

Is covid confined to one sex? No. There's your answer.

steff13 · 05/01/2023 17:52

It's a term that can be used offensively and since we don't know the context in which it was said we don't know for sure that an average person would find it offensive. But apparently Kate found it offensive and that should be good enough. 🤷‍♀️

There's a huge difference between saying to someone who forgot their keys "oh, it's no big deal, it's probably just baby brain," sympathetically. And saying, " you don't know what you're talking about because you have baby brain," in the midst of a disagreement.

Gilmorehill · 05/01/2023 17:52

wordler · 05/01/2023 17:20

I think it's clear now that neither Harry or Meghan can cope with any criticism, not even the slightest bit. And they are both brooders, bringing up the same issues again and again.

That's not a good combination in a couple - if you are uber sensitive you need a more stable partner to let you vent and then talk you down. I think these two make each other worse.

I totally agree.

LivelyBlake · 05/01/2023 17:57

toocold54 · 05/01/2023 17:20

Since when was saying ‘baby brain’ offensive?

Brain fog and forgetfulness are part of pregnancy or having a young baby because our bodies are growing an entire human inside of us and it’s just one of the many issues that comes with it.

Recognising someone is hormonal or is finding challenges due to being pregnant is not offensive and I find it so annoying that women and the terminology used to describe us is constantly being seen as often and something to erase.

Are you sure it isn’t your hormones talking?

Bluekerfuffle · 05/01/2023 17:59

Harry has just fucked himself over massively. I wonder what it’s like behind closed doors tonight in California. I can’t imagine Meghan will be too happy with how she’s come across in his book.

She would have known and approved what was in the book, I’m sure he didn’t do it without her knowledge.

GrabMyParaplu · 05/01/2023 18:04

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PicturesOfDogs · 05/01/2023 18:04

toocold54 · 05/01/2023 17:20

Since when was saying ‘baby brain’ offensive?

Brain fog and forgetfulness are part of pregnancy or having a young baby because our bodies are growing an entire human inside of us and it’s just one of the many issues that comes with it.

Recognising someone is hormonal or is finding challenges due to being pregnant is not offensive and I find it so annoying that women and the terminology used to describe us is constantly being seen as often and something to erase.

That’s fine you think that, but surely even if you had thought you’d said something innocuously, if the another party was inadvertently upset by it, you’d just apologise surely?

Say, oh sorry, I didn’t mean it like that.
In Meghans own words ‘just apologise, and don’t do it again’

JustMerkinYourChain · 05/01/2023 18:06

awaynboilyurheid · 05/01/2023 17:47

Except with Meghans “ truth” he was probably across the room when he did it if in fact he actually did it, the lies just keep coming with this pair.

I don’t know, that would feel pretty intimidating wherever in the room he was. I’m no great fan of either but still.

PicturesOfDogs · 05/01/2023 18:08

wordler · 05/01/2023 17:28

That's a really good point - if on the Oprah interview she'd added a sentence on there which acknowledged that she now understood more how post-partum Kate might have been feeling etc etc

Agreed.

If she had shown some sort of reflection, or acknowledged playing a part in it, I’d be much more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

But they never admit to being wrong. Not even a teeny tiny bit.

It’s always ‘we are the victims, they are the villains’ without ever stopping to think maybe it was just a misunderstanding.

Shelefttheweb · 05/01/2023 18:11

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‘can’t you take a joke’ says every bully and abusers...

Peasepuddingbloodycold · 05/01/2023 18:13

This story is making me feel sorry for Catherine. She's been so misrepresented.

Ohnonevermind · 05/01/2023 18:14

so this is what they were awarded the ‘ripple of hope’ for

Walkaround · 05/01/2023 18:14

Kennykenkencat · 05/01/2023 17:23

Can someone please tell me why. Baby Brain is so offensive.

Should I have been offended when I forgot things after Ds and people told me it was baby brain.

It sounds like playground bullying to make what I would have thought as a perfectly harmless comment into such a big deal.

That comes across as faux innocence to me. I didn’t have any symptoms of “baby brain” while pregnant or after giving birth. It is not a universal experience for women who have children, any more than pre-menstrual tension or menopausal symptoms are. This means it may be fine to say this of yourself or possibly very close friends you actually know extremely well in order to be qualified to comment, but it is phenomenally rude and patronising to declare to any woman you feel like saying it to that they “must have baby brain hormones.” It is not a valid, automatic explanation of anyone’s behaviour, particularly not someone you really do not know well. At best, Meghan has limited emotional intelligence, is self-centred and unintentionally rude, sexist and abrasive if she doesn’t see where she went wrong here and thinks that she was the one who was hard done by with that interaction.

Zuve · 05/01/2023 18:15

Can't wait for the soap opera sequel. It maybe be in East Enders

CoffeeBoy · 05/01/2023 18:16

Kennykenkencat · 05/01/2023 17:41

But Baby brain isn’t about feelings it’s about your actions. Not being able to remember.

I had baby brain for 2 years. I would go to make a cup of coffee, like i have done 1000 times before and have not a clue how you made it.

I once forgot how to drive in the middle of a 3 point turn.

I couldn’t remember how to pay a bill so Dh had to take over.

That is baby brain. It might be caused by hormones but it isn’t being hormonal.

I agree someone telling you that you are hormonal because you are sad is not baby brain.

I’ve heard it said both ways and from the book Meghan certainly seems to have meant it as in “act8ng hormonal”. That Kate was over reacting due to baby brain hormones. Which is why it’s offensive.

That’s literally what Harry says the conversation was about, meghans perception of Kate over reacting. Not Kate forgetting how to make a cup of tea.

milti · 05/01/2023 18:16

Not so woke in private is she

CoffeeBoy · 05/01/2023 18:17

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Was she like that when you knew her from school or when you worked together at Jigsaw?

Ohnonevermind · 05/01/2023 18:18

Who else was in that room, when Meghan made the comments - Meghan’s friends, staff, dress designers ?

Harry has rather thrown Meghan under the bus too

KingHaroldHarefoot · 05/01/2023 18:22

Meghan so wanted to queen bee Kate. Kate is not your natural queen bee so felt very uncomfortable as she is Meghan senior in the firm. You get personalities like Meghan who enter a new workplace and instantly want to change things and to be the boss even if they're junior. Bloody annoying people.