Harry alleges/describes William physically attacking him in 2019

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www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Not really sure what to make of this tbh…

It doesn’t matter whether it was calm conversation or whether they were shouting at the top of their voices.
If William attacked his brother he is in the wrong and his behaviour is disgusting

Does anyone know where Meghan was? They've said how small the cottage was so surely she must have heard what was happening unless she was away somewhere.

Harold is HARDLY a victim!
He is quite capable of going toe to toe with William.
Harold not some little weakling.

Kerry Katona suffered from genuine domestic violence from the age of 3 and became a successful pop star and TV personality despite having an extremely deprived childhood and next to no education.

She built herself up from nothing and rarely complains about the difficulties she has suffered. She is insightful, witty and has self-knowledge.

I'm also confident that Kerry would be the winner in any dog bowl related altercation.

Do not insult Kerry Katona.

Agree and it was Chelsea's necklace that was broken. Busted! I wonder if M knew 😂

Out of interest, if a man was being abused by his female partner, and he was bigger and stronger, would you say this?

Oh she can't have been away surely as she wasn't allowed to go anywhere?

Imagine his ex military comrades reading about his broken necklace and dog bowl. The man is a laughing stock.

but that isn't the case so......?

No idea what went on between them. But you’re proving the point I made.

Supporters: do you condone Will Smith’s Oscars behaviour?

Would you edit out the Hugh Grant/Colin Firth fight scene from Bridget Jones ?

It doesn’t matter whether it was calm conversation or whether they were shouting at the top of their voices.

Honestly. I get people have sides, but the inability to call out bad behaviour from the royal family is so irrational. You can like him and still admit he was wrong to push Harry!

I'm sure it was a tense conversation. Why are some of you people bending over backward to defend you faves? If Harry had a handprint on your face you'd still not take his word for it.

What is made up? The fight, or that he said there was a fight?

@BradfordGirl

on another thread

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4710967-hes-had-our-child-around-the-throat?page=4&reply=122763076

where a mother is fearful of sending her son to her ex husbands because of violence towards her 9 year old son…. YOU were the lone voice saying you would never stop court appointed access even in that scenario

@misslonglegs You are totally twisting what I wrote. The reality is that most people without pieces of paper to demonstrate that they have passed qualifications to a reasonably high standard face massive barriers to entering many professions, including jobs that they might well be able to do, because the school system fails them and the world of work is cut throat. This means that they face a lifetime of being stuck in a poverty trap and it takes both perseverance and good luck to get the opportunities that help get out of it. Without his family connections and inheritance, Harry would face those barriers. Instead he has had countless opportunities, none of which anyone has begrudged him, but which he appears to be ungrateful for. A little more appreciation of the good cards life has dealt him wouldn't go amiss, especially at the moment when many people are really struggling.

A question for people talking about victim blaming.

Does someone making up a story about being attacked help or hinder other victims?

So it's OK to be shouting in someones face or pushing someone but it'd not ok for them to push them back.

Something obviously lead up to the push. And Harry will never say what lead up to it. Unless it's 10 years down the line when he's hit rock bottom and trying to climb back up and seriously trying to get back in with William and clear his name.

I don't support or approve of shoving your very irritating sibling at all. But I do understand it and it's not uniquely awful that no-one else will understand it too.

I'm sorry, are victims of extreme emotional and financial abuse like William supposed to remain in control of themselves when being hounded by an abuser?

Effeminate? What's effeminate about wearing a necklace?

I was assaulted by an ex and my necklace was broken. That's the most vivid memory of the whole thing. Maybe it's the same for him 🤷‍♀️

You can't call an accuser a liar and then pretend to care about 'victims'. We dll OP mr know if it's made up.

People are making up their own narratives about what exactly was said and changing what Harry said happened based on zero evidence. Then presenting that as fact. It is tiresome.
Say you do not believe him, I do not care. But don't say so Harry said, then William said, and then x, y and z happened and I think... when NO ONE has said those things were said or done.
I think some people on the Royal Family board seem to live a bit in a fantasy world.

It’s a question that I’d be interested in the answer to. Are you moderating?

He broke this dog bowl? 🤔 see kitchen pic

nybreaking.com/inside-prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-modest-two-bedroomed-nottingham-cottage-love-nest/

That is not the point and you know it
My six foot one 200lb nephew was abused by his ex wife who is five foot four and probably eight stone soaking wet.
She attacked him on several occasions and he never ever retaliated
I take it you wouldn’t regard him as a victim