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Prince Harry now does 60 seconds RF bashing

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ncpostingabout · 02/01/2023 19:14

And another interview...

This whole drama gets weirder and weirder.

He is completely deluded, lost the plot it feels.

And I'm no royalist either

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Montydoo · 03/01/2023 10:24

cyclamenqueen · 03/01/2023 10:10

Charles definitely sought help for Harry after Diana’s death and during his teenage years.

Maybe he’s not the perfect parent but who of those of us who have had teenagers with problems can say that we always dealt with things correctly. Remember this was a man who was severely under parented himself , his parents left him for months at a time. Everyone makes a huge thing about the Queen and PP living a normal life in Malta but they had two children by then who they mostly left in England. Once she became Queen they went on tour for 6 months and left the dc , no FaceTime then . Charles shook her hand on her return 🙁. He was bullied at school not just at Gordenstoun but at prep school too. He was uniquely ill equipped to deal with a bereaved and traumatised teenager .

i think the monarchy has to go but honestly I really can’t think this mud slinging can have a positive outcome for anyone .And it seems bizarre to take sides in what is clearly very painful for all parties. What does Harry want, will he be satisfied when everyone is as miserable as him, does he get pleasure from hurting his family. Apparently the Middletons were very kind to him but now he’s going to slag off their daughter in print , does that bring him contentment and happiness, highly doubt it .

👏👋 you've nailed it !

Getamoveon36 · 03/01/2023 10:24

WandaWonder · 03/01/2023 10:05

I get this might be just me but I feel h&m are like recurring thrush

😂😂😂

EdithWeston · 03/01/2023 10:30

purpledalmation · 03/01/2023 10:06

I am just horrified that Harry has blamed the media for causing so much misery and mental health issues in his life, yet he is allowing the media (which includes TV) to exacerbate his issues. He is unravelling in front of the cameras, utterly unaware how he is being played by this other form of media. It won't end well.

I agree. This is concerning

LolaSmiles · 03/01/2023 10:37

he's beginning to look like a misbehaved toddler whose getting the silent treatment and is now shouting "why are you not looking at me" sort of response,
I have no other explanation , 😵‍💫

Completely agree.

They're happily married, have two children, have managed to move over the pond to get away from the things they didn't like about living as part of the royal family. They are wealthy private citizens who need to get on with their lives and enjoy their family in my opinion.

LolaSmiles · 03/01/2023 10:37

he's beginning to look like a misbehaved toddler whose getting the silent treatment and is now shouting "why are you not looking at me" sort of response,
I have no other explanation , 😵‍💫

Completely agree.

They're happily married, have two children, have managed to move over the pond to get away from the things they didn't like about living as part of the royal family. They are wealthy private citizens who need to get on with their lives and enjoy their family in my opinion.

LondonJax · 03/01/2023 10:49

EdithWeston · 03/01/2023 10:30

I agree. This is concerning

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Exactly it. H & M 'hate the media', want to keep their family well away from them so left Britain to protect them. Then go on Netflix, 60 minutes, Oprah, to 'tell their side of the story'. Well, we've heard it...but they won't stop. All they're doing is playing into the media cauldron.

Every time they do a 'friendly media' piece, again telling their side of the story, the 'unfriendly media' have a field day pulling them to pieces. Their fans will believe them no matter what, those who don't like them won't believe them no matter what and the rest of us catch wind of a story, have a read, shrug their shoulders and go 'oh well, there you go'.

Meanwhile all the RF has to do is ride out the storm by making little or no comment and let the media (friendly and unfriendly) tear these two apart. And H &M seem to (dim?) (obsessed?) (wronged?) to realise they'll be better to just walk away.

As for buying the book? Nope, I can pick all that up on social media (if I wanted to read a grown man regurgitating his life all over the coffee table). I certainly won't be putting money into his pocket - he's got plenty of cash already and I know his story (whether I want to or not as he just won't stop!)

SnowlayRoundabout · 03/01/2023 10:51

pharaohrocher · 02/01/2023 21:05

And you are all Royalists yes?

I'm not, DH isn't, my family aren't, and most of my friends aren't. Everybody I've spoken to is firmly on the side of Harry and Meghan, and is rather enjoying the negative press this is all bringing the royal family.

You're on the side of the poor little rich boy constantly going to the press to moan about how beastly the press is and how daddy won't give him yet more money?

bakalava · 03/01/2023 10:53

She has massively enabled this. She is very pro drugs herself. If you look at her hen do from her first marriage, scoring and giving out bags of the strongest stuff to guests. There are also loads of other druggie things incriminating her throughout her long relationship with Trevor Engleson which the press are not going to publish.
It is well known around LA that she introduced Harry to ayahuasca and peyote. Not everyone can handle it or should be going there. They have a new-agey spiritual slant on them but they still amount to controlled drug taking and can be devastating if administered by a charlatan. There are plenty of fake healers around there, including rich and famous ones.
It is really hard to explain to a traditional British person who thinks that tough love is the way forward. If he has a Terence McKenna style awakening then tough love will no longer speak to him but further estrange him. If the RF do not take this into account then they will lose the chance to help him. Not that you can save 'em all.

Getamoveon36 · 03/01/2023 10:54

bakalava · 03/01/2023 10:53

She has massively enabled this. She is very pro drugs herself. If you look at her hen do from her first marriage, scoring and giving out bags of the strongest stuff to guests. There are also loads of other druggie things incriminating her throughout her long relationship with Trevor Engleson which the press are not going to publish.
It is well known around LA that she introduced Harry to ayahuasca and peyote. Not everyone can handle it or should be going there. They have a new-agey spiritual slant on them but they still amount to controlled drug taking and can be devastating if administered by a charlatan. There are plenty of fake healers around there, including rich and famous ones.
It is really hard to explain to a traditional British person who thinks that tough love is the way forward. If he has a Terence McKenna style awakening then tough love will no longer speak to him but further estrange him. If the RF do not take this into account then they will lose the chance to help him. Not that you can save 'em all.

I’m no fan of H&M but this is utterly mental BS.

bakalava · 03/01/2023 10:57

@Getamoveon36 Like you know a thing about anything I described.

Luredbyapomegranate · 03/01/2023 11:01

pharaohrocher · 02/01/2023 21:05

And you are all Royalists yes?

I'm not, DH isn't, my family aren't, and most of my friends aren't. Everybody I've spoken to is firmly on the side of Harry and Meghan, and is rather enjoying the negative press this is all bringing the royal family.

Don’t be daft. You don’t have to be a royalist or much engaged to think this bloke is loosing the plot somewhat

If you are actually anti royalist as you say, then why would you be firmly on the side of Prince H? Why would you care?

vera99 · 03/01/2023 11:30

When Charles, now Head of the Established Church committed adultery with his adulterous mistress he set a ticking time bomb under the British Royal Family. And here we are, cause and effect, the truly inconvenient truth.

MoscowMules · 03/01/2023 11:30

The whole situation just reeks of generational trauma.

Let's be honest nobody living in that guilded cage is going to come out A-OK.

Charles' childhood as a PP said was horrific. Seperated from his mother for months, bullied at school, then came the 80's and 90's tabloid media and that intrusion. Yes he brought much of it on himself, but I don't think he knew how to behave like a fully functioning adult, and it's taken years for him to mature and mellow.

Harry has been very open and honest about his mental health, and I think we are at crisis intervention time.

I weirdly think he's got some sort of trauma bond to The Firm. Hence why now that he's not getting the attention back from them he has spiraled into doing anything he can to get attention from them, and return somewhat to fold under the guise of wanting his family back by beggin to have them back in these interviews.

This has gone from gossip and tabloid fodder, to a serious concern for him and his mental health for me.

I don't think H and M are bad people, I truly believe the British Press had either blatent racism for Meghan at worst or subdued racism at best towards her. It was and is abhorrent.

But Harry's trauma response was so strong it override any calm and collected way of dealing it with.

He hit the fight or flight button, originally it was flight, but now he's come out as fight which isn't uncommon, because it's reoccurring trauma.

vera99 · 03/01/2023 11:32

bakalava · 03/01/2023 10:53

She has massively enabled this. She is very pro drugs herself. If you look at her hen do from her first marriage, scoring and giving out bags of the strongest stuff to guests. There are also loads of other druggie things incriminating her throughout her long relationship with Trevor Engleson which the press are not going to publish.
It is well known around LA that she introduced Harry to ayahuasca and peyote. Not everyone can handle it or should be going there. They have a new-agey spiritual slant on them but they still amount to controlled drug taking and can be devastating if administered by a charlatan. There are plenty of fake healers around there, including rich and famous ones.
It is really hard to explain to a traditional British person who thinks that tough love is the way forward. If he has a Terence McKenna style awakening then tough love will no longer speak to him but further estrange him. If the RF do not take this into account then they will lose the chance to help him. Not that you can save 'em all.

Credible links or it didn't happen.

BellePeppa · 03/01/2023 11:33

purpledalmation · 03/01/2023 10:14

lollipoprainbow
Why can't Charles and William stop being so stiff upper lipped and get their backsides on a plane to America and thrash this out once and for all. All this never complain never explain crap helps no one.

Does it actually seem likely they could just rock up at the mansion door? They might not even be let in. Imagine the headlines from H&M...H's family came to our door threatening to drag my husband back to his gilded cage.

Nah, ain't happening.

Because everything said would be fodder for the two narcs to do more endless rounds of complaining, bitching and back stabbing. C & W would be mad to do what you suggest.

Best way to deal with their toddler tantrums is to ignore, ignore, ignore.

purpledalmation · 03/01/2023 11:35

@BethJ62 Yes, I used to be so annoyed with him initially but now it's clear something is seriously wrong. The royal family are keeping quiet because everything fuels the flames.

lollipoprainbow · 03/01/2023 11:36

Pansypotter123 · 03/01/2023 09:47

I'm wondering if Harry will start blaming Camilla for things too - I wonder what he thinks of her role in his parents' divorce etc.

I read in the Mail (🙄) over the weekend that Charles has said that any trashing of her would cross a red line (this isn't backed up by anything though, unsurprisingly).

Says everything about him doesn't it putting his ex mistress now wife over his son who is clearly unwell.

vera99 · 03/01/2023 11:36

MoscowMules · 03/01/2023 11:30

The whole situation just reeks of generational trauma.

Let's be honest nobody living in that guilded cage is going to come out A-OK.

Charles' childhood as a PP said was horrific. Seperated from his mother for months, bullied at school, then came the 80's and 90's tabloid media and that intrusion. Yes he brought much of it on himself, but I don't think he knew how to behave like a fully functioning adult, and it's taken years for him to mature and mellow.

Harry has been very open and honest about his mental health, and I think we are at crisis intervention time.

I weirdly think he's got some sort of trauma bond to The Firm. Hence why now that he's not getting the attention back from them he has spiraled into doing anything he can to get attention from them, and return somewhat to fold under the guise of wanting his family back by beggin to have them back in these interviews.

This has gone from gossip and tabloid fodder, to a serious concern for him and his mental health for me.

I don't think H and M are bad people, I truly believe the British Press had either blatent racism for Meghan at worst or subdued racism at best towards her. It was and is abhorrent.

But Harry's trauma response was so strong it override any calm and collected way of dealing it with.

He hit the fight or flight button, originally it was flight, but now he's come out as fight which isn't uncommon, because it's reoccurring trauma.

Al;l the more reason then to end this dysfunctional hereditary head of state , family of the nation nonsense and let them all fade into privileged obscurity with QE2 being the unsullied end of an era.

BellePeppa · 03/01/2023 11:36

Hedjwitch · 03/01/2023 10:22

I respected him for wanting out of The Firm and making that happen so he and his family could live a private life. If only he had actually done that instead of prostituting himself to the media. You dont air the family dirty linen in public for money!

It’s not so much the family laundry as Harry’s own skid marked pants he’s airing, no one wants to see that 🥴

purpledalmation · 03/01/2023 11:37

@BellePeppa

I didn't suggest it, I just copied and pasted another posters comment, and explained why it would be bonkers.

MarshaMelrose · 03/01/2023 11:43

Walnutwhipsarenothesame · 03/01/2023 09:21

He did seek therapy after William suggested it . Charles does not seem to have been involved at all. He was never in rehab. Whatever therapy he's had doesn't seem to have been very effective.

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Charles put Harry into therapy twice. Once after Diana died. And once in his late teens. But it only works if the patient puts effort into it and, as Harry has admitted, he didn't really work at it. He tried it again in his 30s but it was only when meghan said she'd leave him unless he sorted himself out - makes you wonder what his behaviour was like - that he said he took it seriously.

cyclamenqueen · 03/01/2023 11:45

Says everything about him doesn't it putting his ex mistress now wife over his son who is clearly unwell.

maybe so but she has stood by him, mostly silently for almost fifty years . longer than anyone else, I am honestly not sure he could cope without her, if she goes first I suspect he will abdicate.

She is the love of his life, even Diana understood that, she didn’t want to stay married to Charles anymore than he wanted her . She had affairs with married men and caused a lot of unhappiness herself to their wives. It’s all a mess but it’s not one sided she was not a saint , she was just a flawed human like the rest of us.

Happygirl79 · 03/01/2023 11:46

Montydoo · 03/01/2023 10:03

Yep - lived in a palace, never worried about money, had grandparents that loved and protected him, had the best education ... poor H - you'll never need a food bank, worry about paying your fuel bills. have immediate access to health care - when others wait and die in hospital corridors and ambulances ......😡

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Absolutely spot on.

MoscowMules · 03/01/2023 11:47

vera99 · 03/01/2023 11:36

Al;l the more reason then to end this dysfunctional hereditary head of state , family of the nation nonsense and let them all fade into privileged obscurity with QE2 being the unsullied end of an era.

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I'm not a republican, so can't agree with abolishment of the monarchy, but I respect your opinion.

I would hope to see however them come more inline with other European Royal families. Just that direct heir line group, minimising the potential damages to the periphery members and allowing them to lead more "normal" lives. The Dutch royal family for example seem to have struck a great balance.

Anne was very much ahead of her time I think, and has done exceptionally well to protect her children and their children by removing them willingly from the fold.

Exhausteddog · 03/01/2023 11:52

LondonJax · 03/01/2023 10:49

Exactly it. H & M 'hate the media', want to keep their family well away from them so left Britain to protect them. Then go on Netflix, 60 minutes, Oprah, to 'tell their side of the story'. Well, we've heard it...but they won't stop. All they're doing is playing into the media cauldron.

Every time they do a 'friendly media' piece, again telling their side of the story, the 'unfriendly media' have a field day pulling them to pieces. Their fans will believe them no matter what, those who don't like them won't believe them no matter what and the rest of us catch wind of a story, have a read, shrug their shoulders and go 'oh well, there you go'.

Meanwhile all the RF has to do is ride out the storm by making little or no comment and let the media (friendly and unfriendly) tear these two apart. And H &M seem to (dim?) (obsessed?) (wronged?) to realise they'll be better to just walk away.

As for buying the book? Nope, I can pick all that up on social media (if I wanted to read a grown man regurgitating his life all over the coffee table). I certainly won't be putting money into his pocket - he's got plenty of cash already and I know his story (whether I want to or not as he just won't stop!)

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Agree

They don't seem to distinguish that once something is out there via book, podcast, interview, however sympathetic the original piece, it will be available and used by all the media and social media. The good, the bad and the ugly.

They want to have "their say" which is not wrong in itself. But once you've had your say over and over again, (essentially blaming - rightly or wrongly - both of their families) how exactly are the families supposed to respond? And what makes either of them think this will facilitate reconciliation with their family, or "moving forward and doing their own thing"?