Page 39 | Harry’s latest interview - I want my father back

Rinoachicken · 2023-01-02T12:22:14+00:00

https://news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-says-he-wants-his-father-and-brother-back-as-trailer-for-tv-interview-is-released-12778357 Think that ship might have sailed…and sunk!

LittleBearPad · 04/01/2023 11:13

IcedPurple · 04/01/2023 11:10

I agree with most of that expect that I do not think Meghan will be involved with promoting the book. The publishers will see to that. These are Harry's memoirs. Not hers.

I expect that the publishers will insist on pre vetted questions, possibly even getting to review the finished recording. There may be a few 'hard' questions inserted for appearances' sake, but even they will have been prepared for. Then again, as you say a skilled interviewer can draw someone out without seeming to do so, just as happened with Meghan in the 'Cut' interview. I don't think she is a media savvy as some claim, and Harry certainly isn't. I guess we'll soon find out.

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The publishers don’t care about Harry and any mess he gets himself into in the interview. They just want the book to sell and publicity - good or bad for Harry - will achieve this.

Glindara · 04/01/2023 11:20

purpledalmation · 04/01/2023 11:03

Initially I thought, thank god, now some real interviews with real reporters.
However on reflection, these interviews are part of his book deal and he is contractually obliged to promote the book. So two interviewers were picked out of hundreds of requests, and I now have no doubt all the questions have been pre prepared and rehearsed. There is no way Meghan is not involved in this promotional effort. So it's going to be more of the same vague, non specific claims and accusations. No names, no dates, no actual evidence. Frustrating as these reporters have been blocked from asking for specifics (IMO)

However Anderson Cooper is a canny reporter and I think he may be able to play Harry into giving more away than he intends. We'll see if this is just another Oprah Winfrey interview.

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I think Cooper has already demonstrated this in the clip with his comment “all the explaining all the complaining” - which IMHO was aimed under the belt directly at H&M.

Same as many of the edits in the NF mockumentary where H&M’s hypocrisy was subtly exposed.

Both the NF series and these interviews will have had huge teams of very strategic brains preparing and gaming these encounters for their sole
benefit - ie to max viewing figures and revenue in the short and long term. They will have had to bid and be selected as the collaborators with “conditions” but they will get there by stealth.

PenguinRandomHouse also have an interest in these interviews being explosive / bombshell to make max noise / extend reach so that they can sell more books.

H&M are at the mercy of huge powerful cut throat corporations who are experienced at getting what they want out of the encounter. As they have recently dispatched with their PR firm Sunshine Sachs I wonder how much experience and clout they will have to control the narrative.

LadyEloise1 · 04/01/2023 11:21

@LavenderHillMob you write "......most people I know ... and the majority of comments on this thread seem to agree, feel like Aunts who are frustrated by Harry's behaviour......."

I'd like to know his actual Aunts reaction to his behaviour. Princess Anne and Lady Sarah and Lady Jane (both nee Spencer).

saffronrabbit · 04/01/2023 11:22

Everyone around them is well aware, the drama and bombshells about the RF are what everyone is tuning in for. It's the RF that are the big draw - not M & H (they are actually really boring)

Sadly nobody wants to know about his military career or their charity work...people want the dirt.

It's all they have to offer to earn their huge paycheques and they will continue to peddle the negativity, creating the narrative of a huge family rift and feud with William and we are all lapping it up.

It will eventually wear thin and we will all lose interest, hopefully.

IcedPurple · 04/01/2023 11:23

LittleBearPad · 04/01/2023 11:13

The publishers don’t care about Harry and any mess he gets himself into in the interview. They just want the book to sell and publicity - good or bad for Harry - will achieve this.

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I agree that they don't care about Harry and their only interest is in book sales.

Not sure that any publicity is necessarily good publicity however. If you're going to spend money on a book of 'memoirs' and devote hours to reading it, you want it be at least somewhat credible. Preferably with original, scandalous revelations. If Harry is revealed to be talking shyte again, why bother shelling out for the book? Especially if you'll get to hear any 'juicy' parts through the media?

bakalava · 04/01/2023 11:26

I love it how Meghan was chief stirrer of the pot but has now sashayed into the shadows and left Harry to be the bitter, deluded villain after unpicking his trauma wounds to the maximum and fully encouraging his paranoia which is now raging. That is a woman who is thinking about the next steps for self-preservation whatever happens to her husband/his family in the next few years.

themessygarden · 04/01/2023 11:30

"Meghan, the sharper and more street wise of the two, won't be able to intervene and steer things back on course."

Isn't it the case that normally, PR people, managers etc, are just off camera, sometimes even a legal team who intervene if a question that is not pre-approved is asked or if the interviewee is going off track on the agreed narrative response. That is usually the case for high profile celebrity interviews and I would be somewhat surprised if Harry didn't have that, or more, during his interviews.

However, I am guessing PA didn't have that when he did the Maitlis interview.

bakalava · 04/01/2023 11:31

I bet she is good at pyrotechnics. Meticulously arrange the sequence over months, light it at a safe distance and let the fireworks steal the show and distract/entertain the populace while you trot off in the shadows in your expensive stilettoes.

diddl · 04/01/2023 11:31

a great many things have changed in the intervening 42 years between 1981 and now. We are ignoring reality to say otherwise.

Indeed.

It was the 80s though & Diana wasn't exactly being forced to marry against her will.

Sadly there was perhaps pressure from her family & that might still happen today from such a family.

Glindara · 04/01/2023 11:31

BadgerB · 04/01/2023 10:20

ScotsBluebell · Today 10:15
I find the English hatred for Harry and Meghan extraordinary. It's as though people have read the Mail and the Express and the Sun and decided that the vitriol is true, every last word of it. Meanwhile, Andrew goes on his merry way with hardly any coverage at all. I'm no great royalist, but if I was, I'd definitely be on team Harry.

And I find extraordinary that people like you assume everyone who is critical of H&M reads the Mail/Express/Sun. What papers (or otherwise) do people like you read? We too are capable of thinking.

It’s just another lazy bullying and diversionary tactic out of the play book of people unable to engage intelligently in nuanced debate.

cyclamenqueen · 04/01/2023 11:33

@ScotsBluebell I don't hate them and haven't read any of those newspapers in the last decade. I am of an age though where I remember Harrys birth and his parents marriage, divorce ,and her death.

I think many english people have quite protective feelings towards Harry in particular , remember for many years he was the most popular royal apart from the Queen, they feel (erroneously )that they know him and this is why interest is so high. The way he is behaving is completely contrary to the image that they have previously been fed (that image was curated of course by the royal family). They are confused and rather irrationally oddly let down. Its like when his mother died and people who actually didn't know her at all went completely mad, they had no real right to feel like that but they thought she was someone they knew IRL.

No one cares two hoots about Prince Andrew, he's never been popular , they don't like him and to be honest they are not interested in hearing about him. Theres no discussion because to have a discussion you have to have two sides of the argument and theres only one side , no one is going to defend him.

LavenderHillMob · 04/01/2023 11:37

LadyEloise1 · 04/01/2023 11:21

@LavenderHillMob you write "......most people I know ... and the majority of comments on this thread seem to agree, feel like Aunts who are frustrated by Harry's behaviour......."

I'd like to know his actual Aunts reaction to his behaviour. Princess Anne and Lady Sarah and Lady Jane (both nee Spencer).

Yes - that would be interesting. Especially Princess Anne's version.

IcedPurple · 04/01/2023 11:38

themessygarden · 04/01/2023 11:30

"Meghan, the sharper and more street wise of the two, won't be able to intervene and steer things back on course."

Isn't it the case that normally, PR people, managers etc, are just off camera, sometimes even a legal team who intervene if a question that is not pre-approved is asked or if the interviewee is going off track on the agreed narrative response. That is usually the case for high profile celebrity interviews and I would be somewhat surprised if Harry didn't have that, or more, during his interviews.

However, I am guessing PA didn't have that when he did the Maitlis interview.

Yes, I would expect there to be a representative from Penguin Random House sitting in on the interviews.

I remember one of the 'complaints' Meghan had was that Oprah Winfrey called her some time shortly after she'd moved to London, and 'they' insisted on sitting in on the call. Naturally, Meghan interpreted this as some sort of victimisation from 'them', but in reality it was done to protect her, and will likely have been the standard procedure when members of the royal family speak to journalists. As Meghan showed to comical effect in the 'Cut' interview, she's not nearly as media savvy as she might like to think.

Glindara · 04/01/2023 11:47

Lockupyourbiscuits · 04/01/2023 10:25

sweeping statement “hate “
i think a lot of what Harry has done is very questionable why aren’t people allowed to have a view

Instead of visiting his elderly grandparents Harry trashed the family on Oprah knowing full well his grandad was dying in hospital
I really hope there is a good explanation for his horrible smirk at the end of that interview

I hope all the Harry apologists wouldn’t treat their relatives like that

As regards to Meghan she is a social climber on steroids and no one has made Harry behave like this - he chose her because he saw potential in eclipsing the RF
Harry appears a troubled and vengeful man and nothing he has said out of his own mouth has justified his behaviour so far in my opinion

I agree with this.

Rockybooboo · 04/01/2023 11:54

bakalava · 04/01/2023 11:26

I love it how Meghan was chief stirrer of the pot but has now sashayed into the shadows and left Harry to be the bitter, deluded villain after unpicking his trauma wounds to the maximum and fully encouraging his paranoia which is now raging. That is a woman who is thinking about the next steps for self-preservation whatever happens to her husband/his family in the next few years.

I don't think that all Harry and Meghan critics are haters but there are a few posters who sound unhinged with hate especially towards Meghan and this is an example. It's actually quite scary.

Roussette · 04/01/2023 11:55

No one cares two hoots about Prince Andrew, he's never been popular , they don't like him and to be honest they are not interested in hearing about him. Theres no discussion because to have a discussion you have to have two sides of the argument and theres only one side , no one is going to defend him.

Well... that's where you're wrong. He has been defended again and again. Even on this thread the trafficked girl he slept with was called a slapper (disgusting) and the post said he didn't do anything. There's defending of him on plenty of other threads too. I don't agree with him being called a nonce/paedo or anything of the sort but how anyone can defend him (often in very subtle ways) proves to me he has got a path back to public life if he wants because some people cannot get their heads round what sex trafficking means.

And it's not a coincidence his very good friend of decades (who entered the heart of the royal family) is locked up for 20 years for procuring young girls and sex trafficking.

Glindara · 04/01/2023 12:03

Roussette · 04/01/2023 11:55

No one cares two hoots about Prince Andrew, he's never been popular , they don't like him and to be honest they are not interested in hearing about him. Theres no discussion because to have a discussion you have to have two sides of the argument and theres only one side , no one is going to defend him.

Well... that's where you're wrong. He has been defended again and again. Even on this thread the trafficked girl he slept with was called a slapper (disgusting) and the post said he didn't do anything. There's defending of him on plenty of other threads too. I don't agree with him being called a nonce/paedo or anything of the sort but how anyone can defend him (often in very subtle ways) proves to me he has got a path back to public life if he wants because some people cannot get their heads round what sex trafficking means.

And it's not a coincidence his very good friend of decades (who entered the heart of the royal family) is locked up for 20 years for procuring young girls and sex trafficking.

PA should never be defended.

But we must remember that HMTQ despicably bought his freedom with ££££££ from tax payers money and has bought the silence of the family and establishment - including Harry and Meghan.

Maybe the his book with be brave enough to speak out.

SnowlayRoundabout · 04/01/2023 12:08

ScotsBluebell · 04/01/2023 10:15

I find the English hatred for Harry and Meghan extraordinary. It's as though people have read the Mail and the Express and the Sun and decided that the vitriol is true, every last word of it. Meanwhile, Andrew goes on his merry way with hardly any coverage at all. I'm no great royalist, but if I was, I'd definitely be on team Harry.

I started out as Team H&M - I thought Meghan would be a breath of fresh air and that she seemed bright and engaged, and I positively enjoyed the way it all outraged the racists. When they left, I thought it was a shame that they felt they had to but I could understand it. I don't read the Mail, Express or Sun.

What has put me off them, sadly, is nothing more than the evidence of my own eyes, i.e. from having watched their interviews and read what they have to say. If they had gone to the US and simply quietly got on with their lives, I would have no problem with that. What I dislike is the constant moaning about how dreadful it all is whilst they do their utmost to exploit the RF connection and Harry's sainted mother, tacitly demand a LOT of financial support, and the constant seeking after publicity whilst whinging about how dreadful all the media attention is. Also moaning about pretty inconsequential stuff, like Harry not being able to wear tiny insignia on his uniform at the funeral showing that he is an aide to the Queen because, guess what, he had stopped being her aide. I don't hate them in the least, and in some ways I think it is really quite sad how Harry has totally shot himself in the foot. Ultimately I think they should shut down on all publicity and largely disappear from public life, and I suspect Harry at least would be considerably happier if he did that

x2boys · 04/01/2023 12:11

cyclamenqueen · 04/01/2023 11:33

@ScotsBluebell I don't hate them and haven't read any of those newspapers in the last decade. I am of an age though where I remember Harrys birth and his parents marriage, divorce ,and her death.

I think many english people have quite protective feelings towards Harry in particular , remember for many years he was the most popular royal apart from the Queen, they feel (erroneously )that they know him and this is why interest is so high. The way he is behaving is completely contrary to the image that they have previously been fed (that image was curated of course by the royal family). They are confused and rather irrationally oddly let down. Its like when his mother died and people who actually didn't know her at all went completely mad, they had no real right to feel like that but they thought she was someone they knew IRL.

No one cares two hoots about Prince Andrew, he's never been popular , they don't like him and to be honest they are not interested in hearing about him. Theres no discussion because to have a discussion you have to have two sides of the argument and theres only one side , no one is going to defend him.

Prince Andrew was very popular in the 80,s he was a "dashing war hero"I'm old enough to remember all the " Randy Andy " headlines and for a while untill papers turned on her ,him and Fergie were thought to. be the " fun Royals."

Blossomtoes · 04/01/2023 12:12

But we must remember that HMTQ despicably bought his freedom with ££££££ from tax payers money

No she didn’t. She settled his civil suit. His freedom was never in jeopardy. Nor is there any proof that taxpayers’ money was involved, it’s pure supposition. I find him and his behaviour as abhorrent as the next woman there’s no need to make stuff up.

Glindara · 04/01/2023 12:14

Blossomtoes · 04/01/2023 12:12

But we must remember that HMTQ despicably bought his freedom with ££££££ from tax payers money

No she didn’t. She settled his civil suit. His freedom was never in jeopardy. Nor is there any proof that taxpayers’ money was involved, it’s pure supposition. I find him and his behaviour as abhorrent as the next woman there’s no need to make stuff up.

It’s all from the same pot ££££

Blossomtoes · 04/01/2023 12:15

Glindara · 04/01/2023 12:14

It’s all from the same pot ££££

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No, it isn’t. The RF has considerable personal wealth that’s nothing to do with the taxpayer.

MarshaMelrose · 04/01/2023 12:15

Glindara · 04/01/2023 12:14

It’s all from the same pot ££££

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No, its not. The Queen and now the King have their own personal wealth.

MarshaMelrose · 04/01/2023 12:16

Haha. Snap Blossom.

Walnutwhipsarenothesame · 04/01/2023 12:16

SnowlayRoundabout · 04/01/2023 12:08

I started out as Team H&M - I thought Meghan would be a breath of fresh air and that she seemed bright and engaged, and I positively enjoyed the way it all outraged the racists. When they left, I thought it was a shame that they felt they had to but I could understand it. I don't read the Mail, Express or Sun.

What has put me off them, sadly, is nothing more than the evidence of my own eyes, i.e. from having watched their interviews and read what they have to say. If they had gone to the US and simply quietly got on with their lives, I would have no problem with that. What I dislike is the constant moaning about how dreadful it all is whilst they do their utmost to exploit the RF connection and Harry's sainted mother, tacitly demand a LOT of financial support, and the constant seeking after publicity whilst whinging about how dreadful all the media attention is. Also moaning about pretty inconsequential stuff, like Harry not being able to wear tiny insignia on his uniform at the funeral showing that he is an aide to the Queen because, guess what, he had stopped being her aide. I don't hate them in the least, and in some ways I think it is really quite sad how Harry has totally shot himself in the foot. Ultimately I think they should shut down on all publicity and largely disappear from public life, and I suspect Harry at least would be considerably happier if he did that

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Agree, except M doesn’t want that at all. She craves the spotlight. In that way they are fundamentally unsuited. She’s the sort of person who needs to be observed to feel she’s there at all.