Harry’s latest interview - I want my father back

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Think that ship might have sailed…and sunk!

Is it really necessary to keep speculating about posters like this? It can't be pleasant to be on the receiving end of it. If you think someone's not a genuine poster just report it instead of pulling apart someone's writing style.

Her mother just upped and left one day. Disappeared.

I don't think that that happened did it?

Johnny Spencer was granted custody of the children.

Very many thanks, @AutumnCrow - I really appreciate that, and more to the point it was written in a way that even technophobe me could understand!!

If you don't already work teaching this sort of thing to muppets, perhaps you should

diddl it's true Johnnie Spencer was granted custody of the children, but that followed a very unpleasant battle in which even Lady Fermoy (Frances's mother) sided against her - and because Lady F was very close to the RF it was claimed that she put her own social interests above those of her daughter

It's also been widely said that Johnnie Spencer, like his son Charles, was deeply cruel as a husband, but that's one of those things where we'll probab;y never know the reality

Was it Confucius who said if you want revenge first dig two graves.

Whatever they think they may have been subject to , & they will have their own opinions ( and some comments have been disproven ) I do think the Sussexes are coming over as whinging for money. Gordon Bennet they were offered jobs , a fabulous house in Frogmore Cottage - the Late Queen took Meghan out on an official visit with her. & the RF got back vague accusations of racism & lack of help.
They were in the RF ( working for 17 months. ) Welcomed and wedding paid for pretty quickly after marrying. So I would say not long enough for them to establish themselves by hard work.

I am not sure they are going the right way about earning money though. But do they care ? Their idea of money is not mine . Harry is used to used to palaces etc but Meghan I think used to live in a fairly modest house. A Grace and Favour house in the grounds of Windsor Castle with all the safety that would entail - I think that is quite nice.

I do like a PP's comment - Harry complaining about being 2 of 2 I think is laughable. Other complaints about his upbringing are his - but given he has been closely connected with MH charities I am sceptical neither he not Meghan could get proper support. DS is about 60m if not further down the pecking line. :)

it's true Johnnie Spencer was granted custody of the children, but that followed a very unpleasant battle in which even Lady Fermoy (Frances's mother) sided against her - and because Lady F was very close to the RF it was claimed that she put her own social interests above those of her daughter

Yes I mean it probably seemed to Diana that her mum disappeared & she remembers waiting wistfully for her.

But who knows what she was told & how often her mum was allowed to see her?

Same.

Her mother did just leave . The custody issues happened afterwards.

It’s called a press tour here as well. But he’s not doing a tour, he’s done two interviews with carefully selected journalists who he believes would be sympathetic to him. Bradby probably was, I’m very interested to see what the other one is like.

I watched a documentary about this recently. According to that Diana's mother left with the children. She then came back for Christmas and Earl Spencer stopped her taking the children back with her. Whether that is true or not who knows.

I often think of that horrible “thick and thin” comment that Charles Spencer made about his then wife , Victoria.
Their mother bolted off with a man and the divorce was very acrimonious. The children must have been very affected by this. Diana, like Harry, was not clever, and gave too much weight to her emotions. She never seemed like a thoughtful, calm or rational person.

Was it?
his sister had just died in RTA,partly caused by being chased,by the paparazzi
and shortly before she had just come out of a terrible marriage ,I didn't fall for the whole St Diana ,thing and believe there were faults in both sides but it's easy to.see how a naieve 19year old,could be manipulated,
He was angry
I would be interesting to hear what his perspective is .

Doesn't matter how many interviews, it is still a press tour.

TB may be sympathetic, but I can assure you Anderson Cooper will not. He is a true journalist.

How could a parent leave their kids in a situation like that. If Earl Spencer was at best a bully what kind of life did she think her poor dc would have?

Surely, surely in a house the size of Althorpe she could have effectively lived separately from her husband and still been present for her children.

Just awful how the decisions made decades ago trickle down and still devastate. So a fragile and vulnerable Diana is farmed off to the rf and unsurprisingly has a miserable time with a dh who isn't suitable, she then passes on her paranoia and vulnerability to Harry and history repeats itself. I hope Harry can seek help, find the right person to support him and live a happy life somewhere. This isn't it by a long shot.

You're welcome.

You also asked 'are there supposed to be ready made comments?' which I didn't fully answer. I can if you like, using a random example, briefly? I think it's useful to be able to spot these things online. I've been thinking of starting a thread about in in Site Stuff tbh.

@onlylarkin - Oh I do hope you are right. I like Anderson Cooper & it would be so disappointing to see him do an Oprah - or as I fear the TB one may be.

Someone needs to interview M&H in a proper way & I would love this to be AC. But I don't know whether they have hand picked people who won't ask hard questions

That could be what I'm thinking of?

Have some sympathy for him. Was appalled to read that stepmum Camilla had hosted both Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan at a party recently. Suspect there’s not much love lost between her and Diana’s youngest!

Well, you read wrong!

They've both behaved despicably, but I think she's been the one leading the decisions.
I do feel sorry for Harry, he's lost his whole life - but do believe it's too late for the two of them to rejoin his family. Maybe he can come back if his marriage fails, but i don't know if they can ever trust him again.

For accuracy, they were all guests at the same lunch in London.

Trashing your family in public for money would be a mistake then.

He's not ok. You can't just out private family matters to the world in a completely one-sided way, knowing the other party will not be able to respond candidly and then just expect to be like "ok, had my say, now let's forget it and go back to normal". He's behaving in quite a narcissistic manner. No idea who's advising him, but he needs to sack them and get some new advice. I felt for him a bit after the documentary, although I also felt for his brother, who seemed to be the focus of his attacks. Now, after hearing about yet another interview on top of the content of the book, which is apparently more attacks on his brother, he's starting to look a bit toxic and vindictive. If that was my sibling, I would find that very hard to forgive and if that was my child doing that to their sibling so publicly, I'd be deeply hurt.

They don't trust her father, Thomas Snr and have nothing to do with him. They are basically getting the same treatment from Charles and William! Sucks Harry doesn't it? As someone else said on here, 'professional victim'.

No idea who's advising him, but he needs to sack them and get some new advice

Not easy to sack your wife…