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To think the palace should issue a statement condemning Clarkson's comments?

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Reindeersnooker · 20/12/2022 16:01

I'm all for their dignified silence on everything else. I don't trust Harry or Megan. But Jeremy Clarkson's comments are horrific and were made in Britain against a woman who has become a member of their family.

NOT issuing a statement sends out such a hurtful message and indicates that anything can be said about her, for all they care. Even the MPs have managed to put something on paper.

It's clear that Harry will be beyond hurt if they do nothing and this time he'd have a point, IMO. Each comment like this published in the press erodes the boundaries for online trolls. If I was Meghan, I wouldn't feel I could return to the UK as it's clear the normal rules don't apply to her. What will her children think of Britain when they grow up and become aware of these articles? Won't they be likely to wonder how the palace responded? While it makes no sense to try and placate Harry generally, letting this play out without one word of censure to the press seems needlessly provocative.

It wouldn't be difficult to issue a statement saying something to the effect of "We stand against bullying and hate speech..." Two lines to indicate they see it and it's not ok.

Or not?

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 16:55

CuteAsDuck · 20/12/2022 16:53

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet they've responded to statements in the press on other occasions. At least one I can think of off the top of me head but I'm sure there are others.

Not a common occurrence by any means but certainly has been down and will be done again I'm sure. Only if it suits them I'm sure.

They also issued a press release telling media to back off when Meghan was just Harry’s girlfriend. Something they never did for Camilla or Catherine.

bizzywiththefizzy · 20/12/2022 16:55

The press said some pretty horrific about' Fergie' buck house never responded to those 'Duchess of pork ' being the name press called her .

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 16:57

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 16:53

The RF don’t for ally comment on articles of people’s opinions of them

why did Andrew give that interview then?

He didn’t give an interview off the back of a column in a newspaper. He did that off the back of an accusation he’d committed a serious crime and fraternised with known sex offenders.

And it’s was the RF’s biggest fuck up of the century

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 16:57

The press said some pretty horrific about' Fergie' buck house never responded to those 'Duchess of pork ' being the name press called her .

None of the above makes this ok though? You're going to it's suck it up as that's what we did years ago?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 16:57

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 16:54

If the royal family can make a statement condemning racism after Lady Susan Hussey,

another comment from the people who don't comment 😆😆

AFAIK Jeremy Clarkson doesn’t work for the RF.

This is essentially nothing to do with them

Lifeomars · 20/12/2022 16:58

No interest in the RF other than to think that it would do us (the country) and them an enormous favour if the whole monarchy thing could stop. They could go and enjoy being extremely wealthy private citizens and the country/media could stop all this fawning, hatred, bile, sycophantic worship and just grow up. Having said that, Clarkson's remarks were vile, why other than to keep his name in the media did he come out with such vicious repellant comments. The misogyny was off the scale, the image his words conjured up was profoundly offensive though I have no doubt that all the other women haters and Meghan haters are thrilled at him "speaking his mind". It is yet another example of what an utter cesspit the country has become. Feel I do not know the place anymore

Georgeskitchen · 20/12/2022 16:58

JustLyra · 20/12/2022 16:52

No, Ewan Venters Christmas party was on the Wednesday so before the comments were published.

Camilla was a guest at the party. The day before his comments were published. It's not her job to judge who is invited as fellow guest. Just to chat politely to them

Ohtheweatheroutsideistoocold · 20/12/2022 16:58

Georgeskitchen · 20/12/2022 16:53

They didn't do it for Diana
They didn't do it for Kate
They didn't do it for Camilla
They didn't do it for Fergie
All of whom were on the receiving end of some pretty unpleasant stuff.
They didn't comment on the "squidgygate" tapes
They didn't comment on the "Tampax tapes"
They didn't comment on the Andrew situation.
They just took it on the chin and carried on.

Well given most of the hateful press seems to be aimed at women (ignoring Andrew because he bought it on himself) maybe it's about time they did start commenting on it?

Otherwise they are just perpetuating the notion that's ots okay for people to write misogynistic stuff about women and we should all just ignore it

King Charles wants to modernise the monarchy? Well get with the times and start standing up for women

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 16:58

He didn’t give an interview off the back of a column in a newspaper. He did that off the back of an accusation he’d committed a serious crime and fraternised with known sex offenders.

but he could have maintained a dignified silence no?

And it’s was the RF’s biggest fuck up of the century

I won't argue with that point!

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 16:59

CruCru · 20/12/2022 16:55

The thing is, Jeremy Clarkson loves attention and controversy (I wouldn’t be surprised if his contract actually says that he is to be controversial). His pay may be linked to the number of below the line comments and articles about whatever he wrote - if I were his agent, I would insist on it.

So ignore him. The way to upset him is to deny him publicity.

The way to upset him would be to sack him. He never quite recovered from losing Top Gear (nor should he have the violent prick)

headstone · 20/12/2022 16:59

Andrew went against advice to do that interview and it bit him on the bum. The official royal advice is the less said the better.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 17:00

Georgeskitchen · 20/12/2022 16:58

Camilla was a guest at the party. The day before his comments were published. It's not her job to judge who is invited as fellow guest. Just to chat politely to them

Exactly. I’m sure people here should have expected her to be psychic. But claiming she had him round for dinner the day after is such fake news it’s actually embarrassing

sashagabadon · 20/12/2022 17:00

I think we have a free press and that principle is more important than occasional offence to royal family members. Hillary mantel wrote a pretty horrible piece about Kate a few years ago and they didn’t complain about that either.
but I do think the press and opinionated columnists should use their free speech more wisely. It was an ill judged and ugly column

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 20/12/2022 17:01

Have we even had comments printed worse than what JC said? I can't recall any.

Derogatory, yes. Offensive, yes. As absoloutley violently misogynistic? Nope.

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 17:01

This is essentially nothing to do with them

disagree, when H&M are complaining about press treatment of them & the Royals not "protecting" them enough this article is the epitome of that & is excellent timing for H&M.

Georgeskitchen · 20/12/2022 17:01

headstone · 20/12/2022 16:59

Andrew went against advice to do that interview and it bit him on the bum. The official royal advice is the less said the better.

I agree it was a horrific cringe carcrash and God only knows who told him it was a good idea. Although I imagine Andrww isn't one for taking good advice!!

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 17:01

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 16:58

He didn’t give an interview off the back of a column in a newspaper. He did that off the back of an accusation he’d committed a serious crime and fraternised with known sex offenders.

but he could have maintained a dignified silence no?

And it’s was the RF’s biggest fuck up of the century

I won't argue with that point!

I wish he had maintained a dignified silence. That way we wouldn’t have to watch the excruciating little turd lie through his teeth and make outrageous claims. No good came from that interview, for anyone and certainly not his victim.

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 17:02

I think we have a free press and that principle is more important than occasional offence to royal family members.

It offends me! why is misogyny so casual that no one questioned publishing this?

PicturesOfDogs · 20/12/2022 17:02

No, I don’t think so.

It would backfire massively if they did, as they would be accused of not saying anything before, and only doing so now because of selfish reasons ie to protect their own reputation because of NF show.

They did allow Harry to put out a statement at the beginning when he wanted to, but they don’t typically comment themselves.

I also agree that H&M are no longer working royals, and are no longer living in this country, so nothing to stop them putting out a statement themselves if they feel it’s needed.

I don’t think a statement is needed from anyone tbh, it seems like he has exposed himself as far as I’m concerned,

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 17:02

headstone · 20/12/2022 16:59

Andrew went against advice to do that interview and it bit him on the bum. The official royal advice is the less said the better.

This is what people don’t realise, he didn’t need mummy’s permission to get cameras into his house and he doesn’t have to take the advice of his press secretary either. It was his choice. And it finished him.

LadyKenya · 20/12/2022 17:02

If I was a sun reader, which I most certainly am not, there is no way that I would buy it again, after reading an article like that.

pelargoniums · 20/12/2022 17:03

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 16:57

AFAIK Jeremy Clarkson doesn’t work for the RF.

This is essentially nothing to do with them

Harry and Meghan weren’t working for the RF when William responded to their Oprah interview with “we’re not a racist family”. Sarah Everard wasn’t a RF employee but Kate attended the vigil for her. The RF picks and chooses what they’ll respond to and what they’ll be seen to do.

They were all too terribly busy today having a big turkey lunch at Windsor Castle to bother themselves with condemning violent sexual fantasies against the one Black member of their family.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 17:03

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 20/12/2022 17:01

Have we even had comments printed worse than what JC said? I can't recall any.

Derogatory, yes. Offensive, yes. As absoloutley violently misogynistic? Nope.

On MN, about Meghan you mean?

Yes we’ve had worse. I could link to some live ones right now.

PicturesOfDogs · 20/12/2022 17:03

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 17:01

This is essentially nothing to do with them

disagree, when H&M are complaining about press treatment of them & the Royals not "protecting" them enough this article is the epitome of that & is excellent timing for H&M.

But they left the RF, so why do they need their protection now?
Better they put out their own statement, but I don’t think they should either

SinnerBoy · 20/12/2022 17:03

Reindeersnooker

MPs don't respond to every negative comment in the press but they seem to agree this is different somehow - a new low that needs resisting.

www.theguardian.com/media/2022/dec/20/mps-urge-sun-editor-to-act-against-jeremy-clarkson-over-meghan-comments

"More than 60 cross-party MPs have written to the Sun’s editor, Victoria Newton, to demand an apology and “action taken” against Clarkson for the column where he said Meghan should be paraded through the streets naked."

"In their letter, they said Meghan had received credible threats to her life and that columns such as Clarkson’s contributed to an “unacceptable climate of hatred and violence”."

And people here are still calling her awful and a "proven liar." I'm sure it's because they lap up every article in The Mail and believe every word. Nothing wrong with reading it, but whichever paper you choose, you need to filter what they write.

You could read one in The Guardian and one on the same subject in The Mail and conclude that you were reading about two wholly different incidents.