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To think the palace should issue a statement condemning Clarkson's comments?

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Reindeersnooker · 20/12/2022 16:01

I'm all for their dignified silence on everything else. I don't trust Harry or Megan. But Jeremy Clarkson's comments are horrific and were made in Britain against a woman who has become a member of their family.

NOT issuing a statement sends out such a hurtful message and indicates that anything can be said about her, for all they care. Even the MPs have managed to put something on paper.

It's clear that Harry will be beyond hurt if they do nothing and this time he'd have a point, IMO. Each comment like this published in the press erodes the boundaries for online trolls. If I was Meghan, I wouldn't feel I could return to the UK as it's clear the normal rules don't apply to her. What will her children think of Britain when they grow up and become aware of these articles? Won't they be likely to wonder how the palace responded? While it makes no sense to try and placate Harry generally, letting this play out without one word of censure to the press seems needlessly provocative.

It wouldn't be difficult to issue a statement saying something to the effect of "We stand against bullying and hate speech..." Two lines to indicate they see it and it's not ok.

Or not?

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pelargoniums · 20/12/2022 17:23

Georgeskitchen · 20/12/2022 17:13

What has Kate paying respects to a young woman violently murdered by a cop got to do with all this?

The royal family break their own rules: they don’t “do” political statements or participation in movements – Kate didn’t wear black to the BAFTAs; Meghan wasn’t supposed to reference #MeToo – but the Everard vigil was a political event, not a personal one. And it was supposedly illegal to attend until Kate went, when all of a sudden Cressida Dick alleged Kate was there in a working capacity.

The relevance is that actually, when royals want to, they can take a stand and more or less do what they want, from creating It’s a Royal Knockout! to talking to the press. If they wanted to, they could do 101 things to respond to the Sun column – official condemnation, a leaked-to-the-press hefty donation to a relevant charity, removing Sun reporters from the royal rota for X amount of time, getting courtiers to brief that Game of Thrones was always shit, whatever level of response they want, they could do it. They’re choosing not to.

JustLyra · 20/12/2022 17:26

Georgeskitchen · 20/12/2022 16:58

Camilla was a guest at the party. The day before his comments were published. It's not her job to judge who is invited as fellow guest. Just to chat politely to them

Exactly.

And she’s not a clairvoyant - she could hardly take someone to task for something they were going to do a few days later…

Kendodd · 20/12/2022 17:26

LadyKenya · 20/12/2022 17:02

If I was a sun reader, which I most certainly am not, there is no way that I would buy it again, after reading an article like that.

The Sun blamed people killed at Hillsbough for trouble making and and put Samantha Fox on page three when she was 16 and their readers kept buying it. I don't think their readers have a particularly strong moral compass.

PicturesOfDogs · 20/12/2022 17:29

Kendodd · 20/12/2022 17:26

The Sun blamed people killed at Hillsbough for trouble making and and put Samantha Fox on page three when she was 16 and their readers kept buying it. I don't think their readers have a particularly strong moral compass.

Who even buys the sun? It’s always been a vile rag

Kendodd · 20/12/2022 17:30

As for the question, no I don't think they should comment publicly.
Thank you for this thread though OP, I've complained to the press complaints people because of it. Hes the form if anyone wants it.
www.ipso.co.uk/complain/complaints-form/

2bazookas · 20/12/2022 17:34

Just because the Palace hasn't announced it on MN, does not mean they've done nothing and don't intend to.

The remark was taken down ; Clarkson has not apologised.

That combination strongly suggests to me , Clarkson's lawyers clearing the decks before action against him. They think he's going to face charges.

Consufed · 20/12/2022 17:38

I don't like JC but his rude comments were clearly satirical and not to be taken literally. They were, I understand, a reference to a programme. We are supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. This includes being able to use exaggeration and absurdity.

lemmein · 20/12/2022 17:39

And she’s not a clairvoyant - she could hardly take someone to task for something they were going to do a few days later…

It's not the first time JC had been vile about them, he called Harry 'cunt-struck' in September. Not forgetting too that Piers Morgan was at the same event - the same Piers Morgan who has constantly bullied Meghan ever since she dared say no to him.

It really blows my mind that people believe the RF maintain a 'dignified silence' 😅 like fuck they do, they just don't put their names to their words. Who do people believe the 'palace sources' are? 🤦🏻‍♀️

MyRiverThee · 20/12/2022 17:39

Consufed · 20/12/2022 17:38

I don't like JC but his rude comments were clearly satirical and not to be taken literally. They were, I understand, a reference to a programme. We are supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. This includes being able to use exaggeration and absurdity.

Bullshit.

lemmein · 20/12/2022 17:40

Consufed · 20/12/2022 17:38

I don't like JC but his rude comments were clearly satirical and not to be taken literally. They were, I understand, a reference to a programme. We are supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. This includes being able to use exaggeration and absurdity.

Well you were free to write that shite so I guess we do! 🤷🏻‍♀️

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 20/12/2022 17:41

FleasNavidad · 20/12/2022 16:18

Well they wined and dined him the day after didn't they?

No they didn’t. He attended the same party as Camilla but she was a guest, not the host.

Consufed · 20/12/2022 17:41

Bullshit

No it isn't.

Snugglepiggy · 20/12/2022 17:41

Camilla was a guest the day before JCs article as several have pointed out.Hardly wining and dining JC the day after.Talk about getting your facts wrong. I feel rather sorry for her getting dragged into this.After everything M and H have been up to. It was a big party. Dame Judi Dench and her partner who runs a conservation charity.Dame Maggie Smith etc.And with Tess Daly and Claudia Winkleman.She probably spent ages chatting to them about Stricty.She may have barely dokenbto JC for all we know.
Not condoning his horrible article.

ancientgran · 20/12/2022 17:42

I think Clarkson is an idiot and does it for attention. Ignoring him is the best punishment, all the outrage is what he wants.

MyRiverThee · 20/12/2022 17:42

Consufed · 20/12/2022 17:41

Bullshit

No it isn't.

Oh yes it is.... Pantomime season seems apt.

MyRiverThee · 20/12/2022 17:43

ancientgran · 20/12/2022 17:42

I think Clarkson is an idiot and does it for attention. Ignoring him is the best punishment, all the outrage is what he wants.

No, let’s shine a huge fucking spotlight on the racist cunt and get rid of him. Ignoring this means he’ll do it again. I’m suspicious of anyone saying let’s ignore it. 🚨

bakalava · 20/12/2022 17:44

I am sure Meghan will have something to say about it herself. She isn't shy about expressing her opinions, is she? If they issue a statement, it will probably sound like they are admitting that they are complicit in some way. They do not want that. It is tricky because Clarkson does have royal and aristocratic connections. For example, he is very good friends with Jemima Goldsmith, Diana's one time 'sister'.

ancientgran · 20/12/2022 17:45

MyRiverThee · 20/12/2022 17:43

No, let’s shine a huge fucking spotlight on the racist cunt and get rid of him. Ignoring this means he’ll do it again. I’m suspicious of anyone saying let’s ignore it. 🚨

Suspicious of what? You are entitled to your opinion and so am I. Giving him attention makes him worse, years of his behaviour has proved that.

Consufed · 20/12/2022 17:45

You might as well explain why. Do you think Clarkson is not a sarcastic person? Do you think there was no programme on which he based his comments? Do you think unpleasant satirical comments should be banned simply because we don't necessarily like them?

Sayitagainmyl · 20/12/2022 17:47

There is nothing dignifying about their behaviour. It is indicative of the RF’s complicity in the hateful, racist and misogynistic campaign targeted at the Duchess of Sussex. The palace is doing its best to appease a particular segment of our society (the likes of JC and Piers Morgan who lie in bed fantasying about a married woman 20+ years their junior and in every way out of their league) who have little longevity. I feel this will hasten the RF’s demise – and it couldn’t happen soon enough.

PicturesOfDogs · 20/12/2022 17:47

This is an absolute shit show for the RF.
No doubt about it.

I think as well this and the Lady Hussey thing are going to make people a lot more sympathetic reading Harry’s book, whereas before it would have been dismissed as whinging.

Interesting times indeed for the RF.

Kendodd · 20/12/2022 17:49

2bazookas · 20/12/2022 17:34

Just because the Palace hasn't announced it on MN, does not mean they've done nothing and don't intend to.

The remark was taken down ; Clarkson has not apologised.

That combination strongly suggests to me , Clarkson's lawyers clearing the decks before action against him. They think he's going to face charges.

What charges?

bakalava · 20/12/2022 17:51

Did the palace comment directly on the Rose Hanbury rumours which were actually much more damaging to their brand? They were also circulated by another controversial rent-a-gob. If the palace responded to one of those, they would be expected to respond to all of them which wouldn't be realistic.

In the same way in which H and M stans turn a blind eye to the provenance of those rumours, pro K&W stans are not going to be too bothered about these latest rumours. The reality is that it may (also) be an aging guy's sexual fetish spun out of control and H and M do not let commoners even look in their direction when they are doing certain visits according to certain reports.

bakalava · 20/12/2022 17:53

-so the issue is not about heightening a risk to life or security but being disrespectful, boorish and chauvinist (which is what everybody expects of him)

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 17:54

MyRiverThee · 20/12/2022 17:16

The vigil that she could have put her hood up and wore a face mask like others did?...oh no, then we would have all missed the PR stunt as she quietly paid her respects.

I know what a total BITCH paying her respects.