To think the palace should issue a statement condemning Clarkson's comments?

[Reindeersnooker]

I'm all for their dignified silence on everything else. I don't trust Harry or Megan. But Jeremy Clarkson's comments are horrific and were made in Britain against a woman who has become a member of their family.

NOT issuing a statement sends out such a hurtful message and indicates that anything can be said about her, for all they care. Even the MPs have managed to put something on paper.

It's clear that Harry will be beyond hurt if they do nothing and this time he'd have a point, IMO. Each comment like this published in the press erodes the boundaries for online trolls. If I was Meghan, I wouldn't feel I could return to the UK as it's clear the normal rules don't apply to her. What will her children think of Britain when they grow up and become aware of these articles? Won't they be likely to wonder how the palace responded? While it makes no sense to try and placate Harry generally, letting this play out without one word of censure to the press seems needlessly provocative.

It wouldn't be difficult to issue a statement saying something to the effect of "We stand against bullying and hate speech..." Two lines to indicate they see it and it's not ok.

Or not?

Why so vicious?

I would hope they have.

They have also stuck up for Meghan. People seem to be forgetting that

why it’s weird to want to see your head of state condemn violent misogynoir?

Firstly, let’s just assume that anyone non-political including the RF personally abhor VWAG. It doesn’t especially need spelling out.

Speaking out about it does absolutely nothing. No one will feel better knowing an over privileged white man is very cross about a newspaper article about a WOC. No one is safer. No one feels validated. It’s just words from someone who has no political influence. Actions cannot be taken, so it’s just pandering to people who think something should be said. It’s condescending at best.

Id so rather politicians do what they ought and take action

With respect, that's just your opinion. You can't know that no one will feel any of those things at all.

I really think you should calm down and have a cup of tea and a walk.

But the failure to say anything suggests the palace are on team Clarkson

No ... except to those who wish to assign their chosen meaning silence is neutral

For example I don't post about Kate and Meghan's "appearance", but that doesn't mean either that I think they're stunning or like the rear end of a pig - it just means I'd rather not comment

But is it really ok to be neutral about hate speech as extreme as this? I don't know.

Firstly, let’s just assume that anyone non-political including the RF personally abhor VWAG. It doesn’t especially need spelling out.
Why on earth in this rainy fascism island where men kill women daily, tabloids print violent anti-women fantasies, and the Tories cut funding to vital services supposed to protect women, would anyone make that assumption?

You had already pointed it out, so I didn't need to.

Is it really ok to be neutral about hate speech as extreme as this?

I didn't say it was, Reindeer; all I pointed out is that silence on the subject on social media doesn't imply anything one way or the other

Looking at the fuss that's developed it's clear people aren't neutral, and FWIW neither am I - if I posted what I really think about Clarkson and his type I'd probably be banned
But for me the sheer number of official complaints, and even the response of Kevin Lygo, tells me all I need to know about the judgement of the wider public as opposed to media figures whose only concern appears to be attention

@minou123 - I didn't say it was of the same ilk - but lies, bullying, and trying to milk money off the back of the RF is disgraceful behaviour. Interesting that people are starting to step back away from M&H because their behaviour stinks

I think the opposite is happening actually.

People are wondering if H&M actually have a point in what they've said.

The threads on here are certainly illustrating that. It is not the echo chamber it was on some of these threads.

Jacinta Ardern is the latest, bet the likes of Obama and Michelle have backed off in the past, MLK's grand daughter wasn't approving of the race card angle either. I'm sure there are others

So that kind of thing’s only abhorrent if you’re related to the person who’s named then?

Ahern is the leader of a Commonwealth country and can’t be seen to be pro-Meghan and Harry as the implication is anti-Charles. All she has done is to issue a statement clarifying how her interview was included in an upcoming project voiceovered by H&M.

Do you have a link for MLK’s granddaughter using the phrase “race card”? His daughter Bernice King tweeted after the Oprah interview “Royalty is not a shield from the devastation and despair of racism. #MeghanMarkle” – which doesn’t strike me as distancing.

Dunno about Michelle and Barack – they weren’t at the wedding and I thought only had a diplomatic relationship with Harry? It’s not like they were all pals.

😂😂😂 Thanks, really made my day imagining a madlib getting into a tizzy over isms amounting to , well, I'll keep it polite because I am amused.

@pelargoniums - perhaps she's related to Nelson Mandela actually ... anyway she was on GMB doing an interview just after the Netflix docu came out.

They, h and m have just spent about 6 hours talking about the press, the lack of support for Megan and this impacted her life.

To the point of suicide thoughts and death threats.

Now this Vile articles.

I think it's a good moment to come out strongly in support of Megan and condemning the article.

@custardbear

Harry' and Megan are the royal family. They won't ever stop being royal unless Megan and Harry divorce but he and his DC will always remain royal.

The question was over working royal or not.

Harry making money of the royal family!

Ah, Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela – thanks but I won’t rise to this bait.

If William as the president of the FA can speak out about racist comments against players then Camilla as the president of women of the world can speak out about sexist/misogynistic counts about a woman

Well I don’t feel the need to publicly clarify my position that I don’t agree with VAWG. Do you??

There’s always an echo chamber on this topic due to a number of persistent and obsessed M&H sycophants. I don’t think MN represents the wider world TBH

A random newspaper article is nothing to do with the charities she represents.

The racism in football is happening directly under the eye of the FA. They have the power to stop it by banning fans, fining teams etc.

That’s the very, very fundamental difference

@pelargoniums - ffs 🙄 grow up

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet Camilla does not care, that is why she will do nothing. She may even condone it.