To think the palace should issue a statement condemning Clarkson's comments?

[Reindeersnooker]

I'm all for their dignified silence on everything else. I don't trust Harry or Megan. But Jeremy Clarkson's comments are horrific and were made in Britain against a woman who has become a member of their family.

NOT issuing a statement sends out such a hurtful message and indicates that anything can be said about her, for all they care. Even the MPs have managed to put something on paper.

It's clear that Harry will be beyond hurt if they do nothing and this time he'd have a point, IMO. Each comment like this published in the press erodes the boundaries for online trolls. If I was Meghan, I wouldn't feel I could return to the UK as it's clear the normal rules don't apply to her. What will her children think of Britain when they grow up and become aware of these articles? Won't they be likely to wonder how the palace responded? While it makes no sense to try and placate Harry generally, letting this play out without one word of censure to the press seems needlessly provocative.

It wouldn't be difficult to issue a statement saying something to the effect of "We stand against bullying and hate speech..." Two lines to indicate they see it and it's not ok.

Or not?

What am I talking about?!?

Honestly I don’t know why I’m bothering to try and explain a completely normal concept to you. You crack on assigning completely random meanings to well understood norms and nuances and wondering why people respond to your outrage with baffled bemusement.

I'm no fan of Haitch and Meg but I would defend them any day over that lusty old cow with successful PR. With those moral standards, I believe that she is capable of anything. She is not my queen (consort, whatever), never will be and I cannot seem able to accept Charles as my King either. I hope they do not last long in the role so that Kate and William can have a go at saving the sorry mess that the monarchy is becoming since the real Queen died and boot out Haitch and Meg for once and for all as it feels like they have been granted half-in half-out due to lack of boundaries.

I'm not outraged.

Just pointing out the RF can and do issue statements condeming hated.

Nothing complex about it.

I don’t know where to even start with that @bakalava. your post is dripping with so many ‘isms’ and clearly influenced biases it reads like an AI bot.

Nothing complex about it

you’re right, there isn’t, which is why it’s amazing you don’t seem able to understand it.

If no one else objects can I shotgun lustyoldcowwithsuccessfulPR for my next name change?

I understand it just fine, thanks.

It's a tweet condeming hatred.

You really don’t because you don’t seem to understand the difference in tweeting whilst in a role and part of an organisation widely campaigning with the same message and tweeting in a purely personal capacity.

You’re picking and choosing what’s reality.

That wasn’t the protocol at all. They were busy looking after their grandchildren whose mother had just died. It was bloody weird that people NEEDED the Queen to express sorrow. OF COURSE she was sorry - she was feeling it then and there! And she did do a live address to the nation

The can technically say something in ANY instance but there’s good reasons why they dont

You’re kissing the point - he wouldn’t have tweeted that if he wasn’t the president of the FA.

Its really not hard to see

And he’s Meghan’s brother in law. In which capacity he could tweet something, and sign it W.

I can’t believe people think this is the same.

Of the staff or user groups of her charities were being violent then she would maybe put out a statement.

Finding a tenuous link to say that someone who has never been accused of DV is very naughty indeed on behalf of X charity would be ridiculous

You have to wonder if H&M are even that worried about any of this. I would think if Harry felt it was warranted he would make a statement.

The repeatedly said “they” won’t protect us. And that was a reason to leave. Doesn’t it stand then that you speak out and protect yourself and your own family? H&M have not been silenced, only silent on this matter.

Although personally, I’m sick to the teeth of the idea that men can or will do anything about this crap. They certainly are all pretty quiet on the real issues women are facing in the real world.

Maybe there has been and the public don’t need to know it.

Maybe the RF have written private letters. I imagine they’ve reached out to H&M to offer familial support.

Why some member of the public are baiting for them to do something publicly to satisfy their strange need for the immorality of Clarkson to be validated is beyond me.

If you need a statement from the RF before you believe Clarkson’s actions were abhorrent I’d maybe go to therapy or something.

Ah good old fashioned misogyny. How refreshing on a thread about a woman who is experiencing misogynistic abuse.

In their capacities and roles.

None of them have a role representing The Sun, Clarkson or the media. Therefore it isn’t their place to speak out on this.

seriously what’s so hard to understand?

She understands it’s just not convenient to her narrative that M&H are perpetual victims

You’re just being obtuse now.

He’s also Camilla’s step son, and Charle’s son. He doesn’t defend them on SM when someone is unkind. There is no Charity of Meghan that he is patron of.

The W is to show it came from him and not a PR lackey. Common with celeb accounts.

If you need a statement from the RF before you believe Clarkson’s actions were abhorrent I’d maybe go to therapy or something.
Who has said they need the RF to rubber stamp the abhorrence? The point of a statement is, among other things: basic human decency, to show that they believe like most of the UK that this was unacceptable, to demonstrate moral leadership (I mean, I personally don’t need that from an archaic institution I’d like to see crumble, but I understand it’s part of their role), solidarity with their sister/daughter in law, a warning shot to the press that there are lines not to cross, solidarity with women and women of colour in particular – oh, 1,001 reasons for them to make a statement before we get to made-up nonsense like convincing trolls that Clarkson is bad.

Blossom I can't imagine any of those women having anything to do with anyone who had pursued a relative like that.

It’s not what they do, ever. Expect the time they did it for Meghan. There’s no reason why this time should be different. We have no idea what action they have taken if any, but if you need them to SHOW you they’ve taken action then that’s just plain weird.

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Clarkson is relying on the analogy to get away with his vile words. So if people object - or if he is sued - he can say “Oh silly you you’ve misunderstand I’m just talking like she’s in a popular TV show, I don’t actually want violence against her hahahahaha”

True; and words incite people. Look at the judges, who got death threats, when they were dealing with cases to do with Brexit. Immediately following the Mail's "Enemies of the People" headlines.

Thomas Mair was an avid reader of Nazi rubbish and was sure that Jo Cox was the embodiment of a Guardian inspired left wing, liberal Remainer.

Diane Abbot has received thousands f death threats, often referencing bullshit from The Mail, The Sun and their compatriots.

What’s weird about it? For someone who’s posted so prolifically in this thread, you haven’t ever explained coherently why it’s weird to want to see your head of state condemn violent misogynoir?

We all know, btw, that it’s not what the royals (are seen to) do. (Though of course they issue anonymous statements, briefings, leaks and coded messages all the time.) (And also that they do release statements and clarifications all the time.) What’s weird is defending to the death their lack of response here when it would have been a solid gold PR win on top of being the right thing to do.

Added to which the tweet isn't the only thing William has said.

He has twice released statements against the press/paparazzi

As has the Queen - well through Buckingham Palace- against the Press. In particular am article about Sophie.