To think the palace should issue a statement condemning Clarkson's comments?

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I'm all for their dignified silence on everything else. I don't trust Harry or Megan. But Jeremy Clarkson's comments are horrific and were made in Britain against a woman who has become a member of their family.

NOT issuing a statement sends out such a hurtful message and indicates that anything can be said about her, for all they care. Even the MPs have managed to put something on paper.

It's clear that Harry will be beyond hurt if they do nothing and this time he'd have a point, IMO. Each comment like this published in the press erodes the boundaries for online trolls. If I was Meghan, I wouldn't feel I could return to the UK as it's clear the normal rules don't apply to her. What will her children think of Britain when they grow up and become aware of these articles? Won't they be likely to wonder how the palace responded? While it makes no sense to try and placate Harry generally, letting this play out without one word of censure to the press seems needlessly provocative.

It wouldn't be difficult to issue a statement saying something to the effect of "We stand against bullying and hate speech..." Two lines to indicate they see it and it's not ok.

Or not?

Maybe we should throw some vitriol at some of the other women there? Judi Dench, Maureen Lipman, Tracey Emin, Tess Daly - all “rubbing shoulders” with known misogynists. Shouldn’t they know better?

I'm no Camilla fan. She and Charles treated Diana appallingly but to suggest that she should be implicated in Clarkson's rantings is absurd.

It would seem very, very petty today with the NHS collapsing and Ambulance drivers striking for the RF to put out a statement about words someone wrote about a family member, no matter who vile.

There are lives at stake and people truly suffering. I don’t like what JC said at all, but I think the noise about this will be over in 3, 2, 1. (Except here where certain posters will probably never stop talking about “Camilla’s lunch”.)

Please don’t tell me what to do.

There isn’t a limit or rule on what one can reply to. And I’m not the type to cherry pick the post I find easy to reply to

And Camilla is the Patron of a number of DV charities ànd a campaigner against violence against women and girls, so its very much on her to speak against hateful issues women face.

She does, by being a patron.

But it’s not the same because nobody on her watch has been violent towards anyone. HTHs

Nope. It was his personal opinion.

It wasn’t.

William isn't responsible for racist football supporters. He still condemned it.

William's tweet to me sounded very personally from him. And signed 'W'.

Maybe should start with commenting on her step son and dil’s choice of staff when they’re hiring bodyguards with previous convictions for DV then? What do you think?

“don’t want to get into to tit for tat, but there’s also being no official comment on PH using footage of Diana’s interview despite PW laying out very clear reasons for not using it. No commenting formally doesn’t mean the RF condone it and it never has.”

Both Harry and William are Diana’s sons. Imo, William, alone, just does not get to decide what is or is not shown when it comes to their mother.

I have not RTFT.

But I do know that the palace’s silence has been deafening.

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The twitter post is very much a personal statement.

That’s right, he doesn’t. He also doesn’t get to decide what an old hack writes or which paper publishes it. Probably why he hasn’t commented on either.

As the president of the FA you think he has no responsibility? Ok then.

You’re in the realms of making up and playing by your own personal rules so there’s nothing to discuss really is there 🤷‍♀️

I didn't say that at all.

Stop making shit up.

I very much applaud his personal statement condemning racism.

My point is; the RF can and do make statements condemning hateful speech.

I think the palace can say something in this instance.

This whole thing reminds me of when Diana died. The protocol was for the Queen/palace to say nothing because she was no longer HRH. But that protocol was failing to respond to the gravity of events.

It is not the most intellectual of the species that survives; it is not the strongest that survives; but the species that survives is the one that is able best to adapt and adjust to the changing environment in which it finds itself.

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It’s not a personal statement, he may agree with it personally, but he’s in a fully vetted position within the organisation he’s associated with.

I’m not making stuff up, you’re applying rules that don’t exist to the presence of someone’s signature/sign off. My (and your) signatures/sign offs are used in professional and personal capacities. It’s not an indicator in any way of personal or professional intention.

I think the palace can say something in this instance.

They can. And they won't.

What are you talking about?

These are his tweets:
"Racist abuse - whether on the pitch, in the stands, or on social media - is despicable and it must stop now........
......... I commend all those players, supporters, clubs and organisations who continue to call out and condemn this abuse in the strongest terms. - W"

And on another tweet
"I am sickened by the racist abuse aimed at England players after last night's match. It is totally unacceptable that players have to endure this abhorrent behaviour.
It must stop now and all those involved should be held accountable. W"

They are very strong, excellent, statements condeming hate. And very much his personal opinion.

(NB, don't know about you but I dont sign off my professional signature at work with just my initial)

No, it was clearly in the role of FA President. He’s the right person to put a face to the condemnation of racism on his watch

Because he’s FA President🤣

And Camilla campaigns against violence against women and therefore would be the perfect person to put out a statement condemning an article that normalises violence against women

I think I have to agree. Events have moved on and we're in a national crisis now. The moment, if it existed, has passed.

That said I completely understand if H and M carry some hurt about this as JM's words will probably fester and the perceived 'lack of protection' won't be forgotten. There must have been a million ways to convey some level of displeasure or unease. I don't think the case has been satisfactorily made that they never comment, just on the basis of this thread.

But there are more significant things happening now.