Page 31 | Kate's Official Response to the Netflix Documentary

HAVELOCK · 18/12/2022 19:07

AreOttersJustWetCats · 18/12/2022 19:00

Yet somehow, despite being apparently "whiter than the princess of wales", her young baby was compared to a monkey. And headlines described her as "straight outta Compton" somewhere she has never lived.

Your racism is showing.

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Calling someone a racist these days is like calling someone a witch in the Middle ages. No evidence is required. It’s simply a weapon used to defeat people you don’t like or agree with. And the ignorant, angry mob never questions it.

PicturesOfDogs · 18/12/2022 19:08

Plumbuddle · 18/12/2022 19:04

I find Harry's preparedness to have Kate belittled and held up as a target for spite (and particularly spite from women) in public, to be really one of the worst things he has done. There is simply no evidence of her having been anything but kind to him historically speaking.

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Exactly this.

If his problems are apparently from Williams office, why drag Kate into it?

Comedycook · 18/12/2022 19:10

Calling someone a racist these days is like calling someone a witch in the Middle ages. No evidence is required. It’s simply a weapon used to defeat people you don’t like or agree with. And the ignorant, angry mob never questions it.

I've never been called a racist. In fact I find it quite easy to live my life and not be called a racist. I achieve this by not being racist.

Coxspurplepippin · 18/12/2022 19:15

Plumbuddle · 18/12/2022 19:04

I find Harry's preparedness to have Kate belittled and held up as a target for spite (and particularly spite from women) in public, to be really one of the worst things he has done. There is simply no evidence of her having been anything but kind to him historically speaking.

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TBH this is what made me take a bit more notice. I wasn't particularly interested in any of it until the sly digs against Kate started up.

She seems like a decent woman with common sense, a cheerful attitude, she's a loving Mum, then all of a sudden she's being attacked by the H&M supporters. There's been a few digs at her via Harry and Meghan's interviews/documentaries and she doesn't deserve it. You can see the snarks on this thread. I find it unpalatable and while the tabloid and SM nonsense about Meghan is patently unacceptable, why is it deemed ok for people to try to bring down another woman who has done nothing to warrant the attacks.

This is what made me look closer at what Harry and Meghan say. I'm not sure what their endgame is but the fallout will affect people who should be well outside the firing line including several young children.

Ifrozethehoumous · 18/12/2022 19:20

Who knows what goes on behind Kate and William’s closed doors? We’ll certainly never know and as long as they do their jobs well (which they do) why should anyone care? Personally I think they are great and Kate is fabulous. H&M chose to opt out of their royal duties so perhaps they should stand by their decisions with a bit of dignity instead of washing their dirty linen in public. When you think of all the suffering in the World and the war in Ukraine, I am at a loss to understand why anyone would be remotely interested in two rich and privileged people like them anyway.

LadyKenya · 18/12/2022 19:24

People could say the same about the rest of the royal family, why on earth would anyone be remotely interested in them? But you know what, people are interested.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:27

diffandproud · 18/12/2022 14:30

If people want a show, a pretence, then Kate is doing great at keeping the show going. However, she is no Diana, she won't challenge things, she will go along with anything, just to ensure nothing changes within this institution

Many of us don’t want another Diana.

I know she’s basically martyrised because she’s dead but she was not an asset to the RF. We don’t need another pair of sulky bed hoppers putting in a tense front and trying to outdo each other

Blossomtoes · 18/12/2022 19:28

Plumbuddle · 18/12/2022 19:04

I find Harry's preparedness to have Kate belittled and held up as a target for spite (and particularly spite from women) in public, to be really one of the worst things he has done. There is simply no evidence of her having been anything but kind to him historically speaking.

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Excellent point. So much for the sister he never had.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:32

diffandproud · 18/12/2022 14:42

William is not doing the rf any favours. He is stiff and old fashioned and not moving with the times. He is out of touch with this new way of life that people find themselves in. If H and M were supported and allowed to be themselves, this institution would hav thrived. Harry has been tested appallingly by his family.

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You could say the same about the Queen. She showed no personality, was fiercely a rule book follower and was extremely stoic. She’s the most popular monarch ever

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:32

I’m not quite sure how people expect the Royals to behave. Do we expect children’s presenter style personalities?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:33

antelopevalley · 18/12/2022 14:43

@MrsTumblebee Really?? You think they are phoning around caterers getting quotes, hiring waiting staff, contacting suppliers, making sure there are enough tables and chairs and cutlery and getting them in, coordinating with the laundry to make sure they have clean tableclothes, instructing the cleaners to give the room an extra clean before the meal, coordinating with a supplier to choose and buy wine and any other drinks and organising delivery, instructing the staff how to lay the table, contacting florists to get floral displays made and delivered, organising valets and parking and ensuring paths outside are swept and free of mud, getting staff ready with umbrellas in case it is raining to shelter guests from the car to the venue, selecting guest list, sending invites, sending out invites to fill unfilled places, organising a table plan, designing a table plan for guests so they know where to sit or staff to take them to their seat, organising staff to take guests coats, etc and having a system set up so they know whose is whose coat, making sure the toilets are clean and towels and soap etc freshly stocked with a staff member to nip in there during the event to do a refresh, etc etc. including any speeches, any guests that need to be specially greeted - there is often an audience with a few special guests individually with a Senior Royal that gets counted as another engagement.

Don't make me laugh if you are honestly saying Charles, Camilla, Kate or Andrew do all of this. They have an enormous staff household who will oversee this.

What a waste of typing, because nobody claimed they do these things. They simply said their work doesn’t begin and end at Royal engagements

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:35

AreOttersJustWetCats · 18/12/2022 15:15

People tend to use "screamed" when they actually mean shouted / raised their voice - you see it on MN all the time. I cam well believe that William and Harry had arguments where at least one party shouted. They've fallen out, and family fallouts are messy no matter who is in the right or wrong.

Exactly.

And we can only imagine the toxic home life they were brought up in. Frankly it’s a miracle neither of them have truly gone off the rails.

Blossomtoes · 18/12/2022 19:35

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:32

I’m not quite sure how people expect the Royals to behave. Do we expect children’s presenter style personalities?

I think people have become addicted to psychodrama. What with the Royal soap opera and the political one this year has been like Eastenders writ large.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:37

AreOttersJustWetCats · 18/12/2022 15:32

I would say that Diana's positive qualities were her compassion, and her willingness to speak up for groups / get involved in causes that had previously been marginalised (e.g. land mines, and her work with sufferers of HIV and AIDs which was groundbreaking at the time). Her charity work wasn't 'nicey-nicey' motherhood and apple pie stuff, it was topics that could be contentious.

I have no beef with Kate, but she's not really like Diana at all, except perhaps for being similarly beautiful.

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Diana only did the ‘controversial’ stuff when no longer married.

Thank god Catherine isn’t like her. We don’t need an unhinged princess of Wales again

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:39

Mischance · 18/12/2022 17:07

imagine just waiting to read/hear what lies have been told about you on a daily basis. I think that has been the exact position that Meghan has been in, and why they wanted to put their side.

To be honest, none of us know what is lies and what is not.

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I think people forget how much hate Catherine endured when they were just dating and how little protection she had. They’re talking as if she was always loved. It took years

Coxspurplepippin · 18/12/2022 19:41

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:32

I’m not quite sure how people expect the Royals to behave. Do we expect children’s presenter style personalities?

I think that's a big part of the problem. Reality TV, 24 hour news cycle to fill, money to be gained by trashing people, drama, celebs emoting all over the place and inviting the public into their private lives, Kardashian like, warts and all, everyone has an opinion, prepared to believe trumped up rumours. No room for quiet dignity, privacy. It's so bloody depressing.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:43

Xenia · 18/12/2022 17:13

I don't agree Thomas Markle is not entitled to see his grandchildren. He paid MM's school fees. He supported her. He is her father. His daughter has tried to make a lot of money from publicity and if TM has done so that's fine and I tend to believe him over MM anyway.. He has been hung out to dry by the one side neflix documentary as has King Charles and Prince William.

WTF so making a choice as a parent to your child means that child peers you access to their own children.

What?!

Thomas Markle and his ‘other’ children are grabby creepy weirdos and frankly the only way Meghan is in the wrong is that she didn’t bomb them off sooner. I am astonished anyone can blame her for dumping them! I wouldn’t let that weirdo anywhere near my kids either. The poor woman doesn’t deserve to have them in her life. I’m pleased her mum is close to her, Doris comes off as an exceptionally lovely and astute woman.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:43

*Doria

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:45

Blossomtoes · 18/12/2022 17:24

Clarkson’s trademark is being outrageous. He’s a professional misogynist who rants for effect. Nobody with more than two brain cells takes any notice of him. He’s the same as Piers Morgan with worse hair and clothes.

This!!

I see he’s also had a dig at Naga Munchetty. I wonder what his problem with these particular women could possibly be

PeaceJoySleep · 18/12/2022 19:45

All the Markles publicise their grievances. Brown cat, brown kitten.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:47

MrsTumblebee · 18/12/2022 17:35

The man hadn’t even been given the courtesy of meeting with Harry at any time in the relationship. It was disgraceful. No wonder he went rogue and had silly pictures taken.

And for Harry and Meghan to think that it was acceptable to have him arrive in the Uk and within days have to go through a Royal wedding they must have been mad. Meghan claims she wasn’t prepared for her role - well neither was her father prepared for his.

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He lives in Mexico, they spent their dating life in a LDR and she isn’t close to her father. Absolutely 100% normal that he didn’t meet HarryZ

so how long did her dad need to be prepared to walk her down the aisle?! Very normal to fly in to a destination wedding only a couple of days before.

Personally I wouldn’t have invited him at any point. The man is a walking red flag. He sees money as a currency for access to his adult daughter

pelargoniums · 18/12/2022 19:49

Comedycook · 18/12/2022 19:10

Calling someone a racist these days is like calling someone a witch in the Middle ages. No evidence is required. It’s simply a weapon used to defeat people you don’t like or agree with. And the ignorant, angry mob never questions it.

I've never been called a racist. In fact I find it quite easy to live my life and not be called a racist. I achieve this by not being racist.

Same! It’s astonishingly easy. But interestingly for the “oh, you’re calling me a racist? Witch hunt!” crowd it happens a lot.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:50

wishingyouwell · 18/12/2022 18:40

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet The stats are facts, yes. The woman is lazy as is the husband. It''s unfortunate and highly irritating.

Facts. I don’t think that word means what you think it means. It is not a fact that Catherine is lazy. It’s your opinion that many people do not sure. How arrogant must you be to think your opinion is a fact.

Anyway I’m still waiting on the magic number for how many engagements per annum makes someone ‘not lazy’

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:51

wishingyouwell · 18/12/2022 18:43

I wonder what would happen if Charlotte married a black South African man? @LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet and the likes may just self-combust.

@wishingyouwell i beg your pardon?

Are you implying I’m racist and would combust at a mixed race relationship?

I think you e confused me with someone else seeing as my husband is a POC and my children are mixed race.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:53

wishingyouwell · 18/12/2022 18:47

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet No it's not an opinion, the stats on royal engagements since 2011 tell the work shikers' story. It's very inconvenient for you I'm sure.

OK, so there are stats - but where is the ‘fact’ that they are lazy? Within those stats is there an official marker of what is considered ‘lazy’. If not then it’s not a fact.

Then again you’ve just accused me of being racist when I’m in a mixed race marriage and have not posted anything racist so I’m not sure you have a very close relationship with the truth.