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Meghan & Harry Were Lying From The Start, Weren't They?

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TheShellBeach · 15/12/2022 17:47

As per the thread title.

Right from the word go, Meghan and Harry were not telling the truth. About anything.

Now the Netflix series has come out it just proves it, over and over again.

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 17/12/2022 17:17

The royals are staffed with people whose job it is to stop the truth or a bad news story getting out . Yes in some cases they have made a deal with the devil and have to keep the media placated

Indeed. A disgusting article this week by Jeremy Clarkson ( attached) in the same week as he (and Piers Morgan) attended Camilla's Xmas lunch. The royals are shitscared the tabloids will turn on them if they don't play the game.

Meghan & Harry Were Lying From The Start, Weren't They?
Mercurial123 · 17/12/2022 17:33

ImAvingOops · 17/12/2022 17:05

there were a number of social media accounts that were spewing hate by a small number of people including middle aged women was interesting. Wouldn't surprise me if they were on MN.

White, middle aged women are blamed for everything these days. Mostly because we dare to have opinions! Last time I looked, I didn't resemble Piers Morgan, or the editors of the tabloids, who have been MM harshest critics.

Yes, but reading the level of hate on MN it's not healthy is it?

TheShellBeach · 17/12/2022 17:55

Mercurial123 · 17/12/2022 17:33

Yes, but reading the level of hate on MN it's not healthy is it?

It just demonstrates that a good many people cannot stand her.

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ImAvingOops · 17/12/2022 18:08

Yes, but reading the level of hate on MN it's not healthy is it?

I agree. It is disproportionate to whatever she's done or not done.

rumship · 17/12/2022 18:11

StarbucksSmarterSister · 17/12/2022 17:17

The royals are staffed with people whose job it is to stop the truth or a bad news story getting out . Yes in some cases they have made a deal with the devil and have to keep the media placated

Indeed. A disgusting article this week by Jeremy Clarkson ( attached) in the same week as he (and Piers Morgan) attended Camilla's Xmas lunch. The royals are shitscared the tabloids will turn on them if they don't play the game.

Wow reaching much, the leave some people will go to to join the dots is hilarious.

Talk about conspiracy theory's 🤣

StarbucksSmarterSister · 17/12/2022 18:37

*Wow reaching much, the leave some people will go to to join the dots is hilarious.

Talk about conspiracy theory's *

So if they're conspiracy theories, would you care to explain why certain royals spend so much time sucking up to the Sun, Morgan, etc when they are so vile? This is hardly the first time.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 17/12/2022 18:41

reading the level of hate on MN it's not healthy is it?

It's vile and there is no excuse for some of the vitriol. If people dislike her, fine but the level of hate is appalling and bears no resemblance to normal criticism.

DownNative · 17/12/2022 19:23

Aspiringmatriarch · 17/12/2022 11:18

A rehearsal in which they exchanged vows, yes. That's my take on it.

If Meghan Markle meant exactly this, she'd have used the word "rehearsal" at the very least. She didn't.

Her words:

Meghan: “[But] you know, three days before our wedding, we got married. No-one knows that.

“We called the Archbishop and we just said, ‘Look, this thing, this spectacle is for the world but we want our union between us.’ So, the vows that we have framed in our room are just the two of us in our backyard with the Archbishop of Canterbury.”

TThe plain meaning of these words is very clear - Meghan was NOT referring to a rehearsal of any description whatsoever, but an actual private marriage ceremony. "Three days before our wedding, we got married" is very obviously NOT a rehearsal.

You can try mental gymnastics all you like, but it's clear it wasn't referring to rehearsals. 🙄

Aspiringmatriarch · 17/12/2022 20:08

DownNative As I said, it doesn't seem very important to me. Yes, Meghan said 'got married'. Maybe she even thought it was the legal ceremony, I don't know. I don't think it matters, other than being used as a stick to beat her with.

She's not stupid, so what do you actually think her thought process was, in this 'lie'? I'll randomly claim our real wedding was three days before and nobody will ever find out? To what end?

Much more logical to assume it was a poor choice of words, a sentimental view of a private moment, even an attempt to feel some ownership over it as she alludes to the vows they wrote themselves.

Anyway I don't think any normal person is actually bothered about it.

Ohnonevermind · 17/12/2022 20:15

Where are the photos of this sentimental moment, they took photos of every private moment and happily shared them including photos of their child in the bath so were hardly holding back

Aspiringmatriarch · 17/12/2022 20:20

Ohnonevermind · 17/12/2022 20:15

Where are the photos of this sentimental moment, they took photos of every private moment and happily shared them including photos of their child in the bath so were hardly holding back

Just stop. You don't have to be this pathetic.

Ohnonevermind · 17/12/2022 20:27

No, pathetic is all the posters who complained about the windsors allowing their child to be photographed but staying quiet on a photo like this, this is not a photo for the public, this should have stayed private

Roussette · 17/12/2022 20:29

Ohnonevermind · 17/12/2022 20:27

No, pathetic is all the posters who complained about the windsors allowing their child to be photographed but staying quiet on a photo like this, this is not a photo for the public, this should have stayed private

I've never seen anyone say anything about the Windsors' kids being photographed. Well... they might've done, but that hasn't been me. Those children have a role to fulfil.

Ohnonevermind · 17/12/2022 20:40

@Roussette

Posters have made comments like ‘those poor children, they have no privacy etc, skiing holidays at least the Sussex’s project their kids privacy ……

You get my drift

But silence on these new photos 🤔

Aspiringmatriarch · 17/12/2022 20:46

Ohnonevermind · 17/12/2022 20:27

No, pathetic is all the posters who complained about the windsors allowing their child to be photographed but staying quiet on a photo like this, this is not a photo for the public, this should have stayed private

Your comment asking where the photos are was pathetic.

Pictures of children are a different subject, and I've never even mentioned it on any thread. Just stop manufacturing outrage and pretending you think innocuous things are lies/insults/insert whatever nonsense criticism you've come up with.

Ohnonevermind · 17/12/2022 20:49

What’s pathetic are your excuses for Meghan’s fake anecdotes.
they are of the ‘dog ate my homework standard

TheShellBeach · 17/12/2022 20:51

DownNative · 17/12/2022 19:23

If Meghan Markle meant exactly this, she'd have used the word "rehearsal" at the very least. She didn't.

Her words:

Meghan: “[But] you know, three days before our wedding, we got married. No-one knows that.

“We called the Archbishop and we just said, ‘Look, this thing, this spectacle is for the world but we want our union between us.’ So, the vows that we have framed in our room are just the two of us in our backyard with the Archbishop of Canterbury.”

TThe plain meaning of these words is very clear - Meghan was NOT referring to a rehearsal of any description whatsoever, but an actual private marriage ceremony. "Three days before our wedding, we got married" is very obviously NOT a rehearsal.

You can try mental gymnastics all you like, but it's clear it wasn't referring to rehearsals. 🙄

Exactly. This was a lie which Harry looked surprised at, too. When MM said it, Harry looked puzzled.

He knew she was lying. The world also now knows that she was lying.
The question is how much longer H will stay in the relationship, knowing that his wife lies. To the world.

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Aspiringmatriarch · 17/12/2022 20:51

Ok 🙄

Ohnonevermind · 17/12/2022 20:54

She clearly hadn’t told Harry they had gotten married three days earlier either, he was as surprised as the audience,

RandomSunday · 17/12/2022 21:28

Maybe you should watch H&M’s version on Netflix OP. There are always 2 sides to every story. Surely everyone should be allowed to give their side?

You seem to be just another one sucked in by the paparazzi 🙄 You know the papers sensationalise their headlines, not caring who they hurt, as long as they get a scoop - and their pay - right?

As I’ve already said there are always two sides to every story. Nobody can come come to an informed decision without hearing both sides of the story. In this case it’s H&M v The Media. After hearing both sides H&M are, without doubt, uppermost in my thoughts.

We all know the media are happy to demonise someone, in exchange for a scoop and a bonus… don’t we?

rumship · 17/12/2022 21:35

StarbucksSmarterSister · 17/12/2022 18:37

*Wow reaching much, the leave some people will go to to join the dots is hilarious.

Talk about conspiracy theory's *

So if they're conspiracy theories, would you care to explain why certain royals spend so much time sucking up to the Sun, Morgan, etc when they are so vile? This is hardly the first time.

would you care to explain why certain royals spend so much time sucking up to the Sun, Morgan, etc when they are so vile?

What do you want me to explain exactly when you have zero, non nada proof they are sucking up to the sun ect. How about provide some proof of what you are saying before asking me to explain hypothetical situations you are living about.

Seriously your a joke.

DownNative · 18/12/2022 03:13

Aspiringmatriarch · 17/12/2022 20:08

DownNative As I said, it doesn't seem very important to me. Yes, Meghan said 'got married'. Maybe she even thought it was the legal ceremony, I don't know. I don't think it matters, other than being used as a stick to beat her with.

She's not stupid, so what do you actually think her thought process was, in this 'lie'? I'll randomly claim our real wedding was three days before and nobody will ever find out? To what end?

Much more logical to assume it was a poor choice of words, a sentimental view of a private moment, even an attempt to feel some ownership over it as she alludes to the vows they wrote themselves.

Anyway I don't think any normal person is actually bothered about it.

As I said, mental gymnastics.

You really have to deal with the actual words Meghan used and the plain meaning of them. Not what YOU want them to mean. You've done the same thing for everything else Meghan Markle said too - ignored plain meaning in favour of mental gymnastics whilst being selective about it.

"I see what I eat" isn't the same thing as "I eat what I see", you know.

The simplest explanation for Meghan consistently lying or distorting things is for attention. Sure, it's counterproductive but it's what she does and it hits her credibility each time.

DownNative · 18/12/2022 03:23

Also @Aspiringmatriarch you said "Maybe she even thought it was the legal ceremony, I don't know."

Two things - why are you speculating rather than looking at the plain meaning of her words?

And you're basically suggesting or implying Meghan Markle isn't intelligent enough to distinguish between a pre-wedding meeting with the Archbishop of Canterbury and an actual legal wedding ceremony!

Nah, Meghan knew full well it wasn't a legal ceremony of any description three days before she married. And it's simpler to say she knew that full well.

People don't have to have complex reasons for lying, you know. People lie for all kinds of reasons and these programmes is about making money, so there's a motivation. Attention and money can be enough reason to mislead, distort or lie. Otherwise, why are their programmes consistently demonstrating this behaviour?

Answers on a postcard, please! 🙄

Morestrangethings · 18/12/2022 04:08

Aspiringmatriarch · 17/12/2022 20:08

DownNative As I said, it doesn't seem very important to me. Yes, Meghan said 'got married'. Maybe she even thought it was the legal ceremony, I don't know. I don't think it matters, other than being used as a stick to beat her with.

She's not stupid, so what do you actually think her thought process was, in this 'lie'? I'll randomly claim our real wedding was three days before and nobody will ever find out? To what end?

Much more logical to assume it was a poor choice of words, a sentimental view of a private moment, even an attempt to feel some ownership over it as she alludes to the vows they wrote themselves.

Anyway I don't think any normal person is actually bothered about it.

Her first vows are the one she holds most dear, absolutely.

I can understand her wanting some ownership over their vows.

I agree, why be bothered by it.

She was obviously happy on the big wedding day. It was lovely to watch them - obviously so happy in each other. And she was a beautiful bride. The groom was kind of hot too. I’m glad we did get to see it.

Morestrangethings · 18/12/2022 04:09

What does answers on a postcard, mean?

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