Meghan & Harry Were Lying From The Start, Weren't They?

[TheShellBeach]

As per the thread title.

Right from the word go, Meghan and Harry were not telling the truth. About anything.

Now the Netflix series has come out it just proves it, over and over again.

Yes, or it could be argued how easily influenced you are by certain tabloid newspapers?

People hate her because she is a scheming lying manipulative attention seeker

Do you know her in real life? My God you’d have thought she’s done something to you personally

All I see is Megan's army out on every single thread across Social Media. What a sad existence that you go through every single post just too see what's being said about you.

She has played Harry for the fool he is. Her ex husbands and family all cannot be wrong about her.

You genuinely sound delusional. Lied about what?! And where did they say they want privacy?

Just because they left their ‘official duties’ it doesn’t mean that they don’t want to tell their story themselves. The media have told how many lies about them and for how long? Why can’t they tell their side? A lot of you people are honestly batshit. You believe she’s a liar and don’t like her yet you’re watching their documentary? Get a grip

She has one ex husband.

So now she's being knocked for being married once before? That'll go down well on a forum for women, i.e. Mumsnet!

What a harlot! Disgusting!

Meghan's army lolol... what do you call the opposite of that? I really couldn't say! Just because people post disagreeing with some of the vile and untrue tripe that 'detractors' churn out again and again

Did the OP actually watch the programme? It's clear as day, they didn't lie.. the daily mail shit rag proved that 🙄

I was correcting a PP who said she had two ex husbands.

I know. And I was responding to the poster who was knocking her for being married before!

I think with the wedding, she probably means that the private exchange of vows and conversation with the A of C felt like her real wedding to her. It was clumsily put though. And felt to some people like a dig at the UK/RF, who had put on and paid for this big beautiful wedding.

That’s an interesting defence, I’ve absolutely no issues with people being married before but Meghan did knock her sister for having three children with three different and wanted to make sure Omid Scobie knew all about it (court docs so facts not rumours) so perhaps Meghan’s a little more judgemental than us herself

Certainly, the Netflix series was designed to show them both in the best possible light. But I think there are some choices they made and things they've inferred, which could do with light being shone onto them.

Ultimately, I think it's the hypocrisy which is pissing people off. The public were almost universally happy for them and welcoming and they've gone to America and moaned about how awful it is here. While at the same time making a shit load of money from their association with the UK/RF.

All the series has done is shown how utterly disgusting the British press are. I also think many people (including a lot of people on MN) have believed what the gutter press, aka the daily mail have written and believed it to be the truth.

I think it’s evident that the RF are behind press leaks about the couple. I also believe Charles and William are there to protect the brand rather than family members. i also think MM dad and step sister are pretty disgusting in their behaviour too.

I hope H and M life their life peacefully going forward and are happy with the documentary/their side. Now go away and live your life.

Yes, some of the press have behaved appallingly and it's time they were reeled back in. This is a long term problem, particularly in the way women are treated. And I understand that British press is a sore point for H, since it's the press from his home nation snd it has a long history of overstepping and intruding beyond what anyone could call acceptable levels.

But bad press behaviour isn't exclusive to the UK and I do believe the Netflix thing skirted over that a bit. The whole thing has an air of Britain = terrible, which just grates a bit, given that their association with it has actually given them a lifestyle that many would love to have. Watching them in their beautiful home, no financial worries but moaning about how hard done by they are, isn't a good look.

Perhaps it isn’t a good look but when you watch the documentary (I know it’s just their side), the lies and racism must get to you eventually. Ok they are in a privileged position but they are hardly going to be in a 2 bed apartment in the USA somewhere. That would make them an open target, particularly the kids. I didn’t see them whining. I saw it as them wanting their say. The need to make a living and they’ve sold their story to Netflix for $$$. We’ve all watched it and therefore made Netflix a load of cash too. H&M are hardly going to be working in the local Walmart. There will always be people in life who earn and have more than others.

i really don’t like the RF. I think it should be abolished.

Again, the PLAIN meaning of her own words has to be considered here and it offers zero to any interpretation of rehearsals OR your view it "felt like a real wedding to her". If Meghan meant precisely that, she'd have expressed exactly this herself but she did not.

On its own, its not a whopper of a lie, but it more than suggests a habit of lying when paired with the various other lies she told Oprah Winfrey. 🧐

I have watched the whole thing and I do agree the press stories were awful. As they must have been for Fergie and Kate and Diana and the York girls. And women in general really, if they happen to be misfortunate enough to draw the attention of the tabloids.

But I don't think they are the total victims they've made out either. Re the criticism of the baby shower - they made out they were unfairly criticised because it was expensive and it was their friends money so not a taxpayer cost. Which is true. But they skirted over the criticism that they were positioning themselves as environmentalists, while taking private flights. It comes back to hypocrisy.

And I still want to know why there was high staff turnover, what happened with Kate, the tiara thing etc. They had an opportunity to set the record straight if all those stories were false, but they addressed none of it. That makes the documentary a bit dicey

That is undeniable.

Regarding the bike rides, you have to deal with what Harry actually said. You know the PLAIN meaning of his words and not what YOU want him to have said or meant.

Harry clearly said bike rides with his parents was "something I was never able to do when I was young." Key words is "never able to do".

Except he did go on bike rides with his parents of which there's lots of photo evidence.

If Harry meant he is "much more free to just go and do things like this with Archie", then he absolutely would have made that exact point.

Yet he didn't at all!

Ergo, Harry clearly lied on that point along with ALL the other points. You might not like it, but tough. 🤷‍♂️

@Aspiringmatriarch said, "If Diana had had her royal protection officers she would never have died in that crash."

Diana would have survived if her driver hadn't been under the influence whilst driving.

And if Diana had worn a seat belt at the time. After all, seatbelts have been proven to save lives in vehicle crashes as has not driving under the influence.

You strike me as someone who wants to bend over backwards in an attempt to exonerate Harry and Meghan from lying based on the plain meaning of their uwn words. 🤷‍♂️

The best case scenario you can get to about a lot of this is that Meghan and Harry are both struggle to get across what they really mean in their interviews and television, as their audience needs to undergo quite a lot of “filling in the gaps” in order to make their words fit with the known facts.

Once you realise that that is what you are having to do, over and over again, in order to explain away their peculiar statements, how do you not realise that for what it is?

Anyway, another small point - there is footage from one of the earlier series of Suits where Meghan, in character as Rachel Zane, bobs a perfect curtsey to the person she is talking to in the scene. Yes, performed by the same Meghan Markle who did a whole song and dance about how, as an American, she had no idea how to curtsey, and so showed us her “Medieval banquet” mockery of what she assumed she was meant to do.

I don't care what I strike you as. People interpret things differently.

If Diana had had her royal protection officers, she would not have been in a car with a drunk driver without a seatbelt. Her own judgment was also sadly a factor. It wouldn't have been allowed to happen with a decent security team.

@Aspiringmatriarch Complete fabrication of the truth there. The facts are she refused to keep royal protection herself after divorse.

The royal’s former former protection officer, Ken Wharfe, who looked after her for six years. Speaking in the 2017 NBC documentary, ‘The Life and Death of Princess Diana’, he recalled how he tried to dissuade Diana from renouncing all of her royal bodyguards after splitting from Prince Charles.
The former Metropolitan Police officer claimed he told her: “Whatever you want to do, you will always be Diana, Princess of Wales.
“The one thing that you shouldn’t give up is your security. I strongly urge you not to do so.
“There’s only one person that could — in my view — have insisted that she retain her security, and that would have been the Queen herself.”

However, Diana wanted her freedom and so disbanded most of her royal staff, just holding onto a cleaner, a cook, a dresser and her butler.

@rumship
Rubbish
She was rightly worried that she was being spied on - reported back on .
What has a cook got to do with security