Meghan & Harry Were Lying From The Start, Weren't They?

[TheShellBeach]

As per the thread title.

Right from the word go, Meghan and Harry were not telling the truth. About anything.

Now the Netflix series has come out it just proves it, over and over again.

She said she paid her way through school.
Her dad paid for her uni fees. He showed the receipts on an interview.

She also paid for part of the fees through a work-study programme, apparently her mother contributed as well and she also had a scholarship grant.
I think you're referring to something she said in a speech some years ago. It's true that she didn't pay all her fees but also true that she worked her way through school and paid towards her fees. In the context of the speech I think what she said was fair enough, although not the full story.

She said the archbishop married them in their back garden. He wasn't even in London (his schedule is public)

I don't know how you would find Justin Welby's schedule from that time but would be interested if you have a link to it? From this article it soubds as though they did have a meeting which he described as "private and pastoral":

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/justin-welby-meghan-oprah-winfrey-harry-archbishop-b927537.html

Surely that was the rehearsal and some talk about the meaning of marriage? It wasn't a ceremony!

If Justin Welby had married them in the garden I am pretty confident we’d have seen the footage in the documentary as everything else ‘private and just for themselves’ was fair game !

True enough!

A rehearsal in which they exchanged vows, yes. That's my take on it.

@RosettaStormer
If you mean by the 'other side ' the 'royal family' you are incredibly ( or deliberately) naive .

They have their 'sources' get their message out via friendly media - never mind 'royal correspondents' on the national news !

The royals are staffed with people whose job it is to stop the truth or a bad news story getting out . Yes in some cases they have made a deal with the devil and have to keep the media placated.It will be fun when the 'royals' version is no longer enough to feed the beast and a few skeletons are let out

It's very handy for the 'royals' and the government to have H and M as hate figures at the moment but that will fade. Maybe more people will wake up to how they have been manipulated

Having watched all of this now, I do think they had some legitimate complaints, certainly around the negative press stories. I think Harry had a fair point when he said women who marry in are blamed for everything and pulled down in the papers. That is true - see Fergie and Kate as well as Megan. This shit doesn't happen to Mike Tindall!
I can also see some noses being put out of joint by the arrival of a glamorous, independently successful, capable and popular woman, who could identify with the commonwealth in a way that existing members of the RF could not.
But, when I look at the footage, I don't see a cold and unwelcoming family - I see Prince Charles stepping in and walking M down the aisle, the Queen offering her a blanket in the car, William smiling at his brother. I see how happy the British public was for H that he'd met someone. None of that gels with what they said. I can't see the RF telling M not to invite her niece to her wedding - frankly it was weird to have no family there and would have looked less so if the niece had been invited.
I'd like to know why so many staff members left H&M. Whether H really did say 'what M wants, M gets'. Was there a strop over the tiara? What happened with Kate. They could have set the record straight if none of this was accurate. There was a lot of skirting around things - implying but not saying. No evidence supplied that the family had behaved badly.
And I think at the heart of this, is that they cannot complain about the British establishment, RF and history, while monetising their association with it. Do they really think all these rich friends would be offering them houses if it weren't for their connections to the RF? Or giving them (and their good causes) airtime and money? They say they were willing to give up the titles, but they haven't so far.

TLDR; several things can be true at once - there could be bad treatment both from them and towards them!

So just what everyone does then. Yet we don’t all claim we are already married when it comes to the ceremony. Was she really unable to tell the difference?

I don't really care tbh? Some people have a non-legal ceremony where they feel they got married. Why not? I believe it's more common in America.

Just because the nation paid for an enormous palaver where everyone was wishing her Ewell, yet she clearly didn’t value that or think it mattered.

Oh, I must have missed where she said that. OK.

I think Charles is worse. I remember in 1981having the day off school to watch the big fairy tale of his first wedding. Turns out the vows were complete lies and he was in love with someone else. He's not a good man.

Not appropriate in her context, though. Fine for Sarah and Mark down the road. She got the A of C into trouble, who had to publicly refute the lie.

@Rockybooboo

'Whatever love is '

And royalists crying over it and camping out ..

And on the charade trundles

@MaulPerton
😂 a private vow wasn't appropriate
But Charles as head of the COE is !

Meghan was very clear that her passport was taken away from her and she didn't see it again until she escaped to California. Which begs the question how did she manage to fly to Elton John's place in the South of France, fly to New York for her baby shower and fly to Canada?

And, she didn't get to keep her own personal car keys because the cars available to the Royal Family have to be kept secure, regularly checked and are in a 'pool' so to speak. I bet Meghan didn't moan about never again having to fill a car up with petrol or check its tyre pressure.

A terrible business, indeed. He narrowly escaped prison I hear.

The part where it was discussed that there were a number of social media accounts that were spewing hate by a small number of people including middle aged women was interesting. Wouldn't surprise me if they were on MN.

www-indy100-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.indy100.com/amp/twitter-meghan-markle-prince-harry-hate-2658968222?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16712857785407&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.indy100.com%2Fnews%2Ftwitter-meghan-markle-prince-harry-hate

Twitter already said that was false when they investigated the claim in 2021, they said as a result of their internal investigation they found 4 accounts were suspicious and removed them.

Twitter already said that was false when they investigated the claim in 2021, they said as a result of their internal investigation they found 4 accounts were suspicious and removed them.

Interesting do you have the statement?

Find it yourself why should I do your due diligence on your claims for you.

But if you want to also test the reliability of bot sentinel the guy who made the claim. Feel free to do it yourself also here's a video that will assist you 🤔

I will link this again as it's relevant.

www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/harry-meghan-youtube-complicit-harassment-1234647879/

Bouzy points to the YouTube comment sections underneath the official trailers for the Harry & Meghan series, where users have begun posting copypasta — a popular way to spam content by inundating it with similar messaging. A majority of the posts use the phrases “l love the part” and “brings a tear to my left eye,” to post sarcastic comments mocking Meghan and Harry’s involvement in the show. The phrases mean nothing on their own but are a way for online users to combine spam efforts while putting their own flair on their hate comments. BotSentinel also analyzed at least 1,400 reviews on Rotten Tomatoes and found evidence that 85 percent of the accounts had the Harry & Meghan series as their only review

Amazing, all these first time RT reviewers! 85% is quite a number... I doubt many if any of them actually watched it all the way through.

It would be the same for the Meghan's children's book reviews on Amazon and reviews on IMDB of the NF series.

People who loathe the couple and just trawl around anywhere writing reviews to disparage her.

She forced a public denial from him and made him look foolish. Not many people would appreciate being put into such a position when they are just going about their business.

there were a number of social media accounts that were spewing hate by a small number of people including middle aged women was interesting. Wouldn't surprise me if they were on MN.

White, middle aged women are blamed for everything these days. Mostly because we dare to have opinions! Last time I looked, I didn't resemble Piers Morgan, or the editors of the tabloids, who have been MM harshest critics.