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Meghan & Harry Were Lying From The Start, Weren't They?

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TheShellBeach · 15/12/2022 17:47

As per the thread title.

Right from the word go, Meghan and Harry were not telling the truth. About anything.

Now the Netflix series has come out it just proves it, over and over again.

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Sisterpita · 03/02/2024 15:01

The media is driven by one thing profit. Meghan sells, the truth less so. A good example is the Post Office scandal - very few media outlets consistently reported (some did) until the ITV drama.

JSMill · 03/02/2024 15:04

The 'Daily Fail' covered the PO scandal over and over again.

Sagharbor · 03/02/2024 21:40

FloofCloud · 03/02/2024 11:55

Considering H&M are dropping like stones in their popularity amongst the public and celebrities/leaders etc, it does make me wonder what they'll do when everything dries up for them financially and invites to whatever ... guess that's when their gossipy lies books may start rolling out

Who told you they "are dropping like stones in their popularity among public and celebrities", haven't people always said they are not popular in Hollywood only for them to be seen hanging out with Jeff Bezos and the like?

And now you are saying that they are falling like stones?

Sagharbor · 03/02/2024 21:43

SilkFloss · 15/01/2024 10:02

@ThighMistress Where is that from? (About the trademark for Lilibet Diana)

This is something I would also like to know.

People throw it about as if they saw the trademark application, which of course they didnt.

Gottseidank · 03/02/2024 22:25

From what I’ve observed, they really aren’t popular, most people see them as self-important and unaware - just look at all the polls, or read the comments on any online article about them, on practically any site.

Unfortunately their planned 2020 relaunch as ‘A list international celebs’ was a spluttering failure. Over the 3 years since they have turned up to all sorts of obscure envelope openings, but haven’t managed to secure an invite to a single high status event. Where were they at the Met gala, the Emmy’s, the Oscar’s, or even Elton John’s annual bash? They turn up at strange events no-one has heard of - to receive awards that make them look desperate- like the aviation one. William’s brief US visits last year generated the sort of buzz they can only dream of.

And to their discredit, since the failure of their half-in scheme, they seem to have (unsuccessfully) pushed a relentless campaign of revenge PR against the RF: through books, tv projects, interviews, leaks and a small army of tireless Sussex squandettes on X and elsewhere online.

Of course, Kate and William, who remain overwhelmingly more popular than them (including in the US) are the biggest targets for their ire. Just like the Duke and Duchess of Windsor before them, they have embarked upon new lives abroad but are still looking back at the world they left behind with bitterness and resentment.

Peanutbutterball · 04/02/2024 02:04

I don’t normally post but wanted to make an observation.

I noticed that Harry and Meghan stopped sharing pictures of Archie after people commented on his lazy eye. He’s approaching the age where that can be corrected with surgery. I predict that they will take a more relaxed attitude to their children’s privacy once this fault has been corrected.

In the meantime, I suspect it infuriates them that the Cambridge children generate so much goodwill for the Prince & Princess of Wales - Harry and Meghan’s supporters always seem very wound up whenever George and his siblings make an appearance.

FloofCloud · 04/02/2024 04:13

National statistics @Sagharbor national statistics

Meghan & Harry Were Lying From The Start, Weren't They?
Roussette · 04/02/2024 06:25

I noticed that Harry and Meghan stopped sharing pictures of Archie after people commented on his lazy eye. He’s approaching the age where that can be corrected with surgery. I predict that they will take a more relaxed attitude to their children’s privacy once this fault has been corrected.

First I've heard anything like this about Archie, it's never been mentioned on MN and some on here post if Meghan as much as sneezes. Do you have a source for this 'fault' about a little boy who lives thousands of miles away?

FloofCloud · 04/02/2024 06:33

Fault?! That's horrible! Johnny Depp has amblyopia in one eye ... its not a fault

Alalain · 04/02/2024 07:17

You don't have to 'hear' about it, you can see it in the photos they shared from S. Africa. Lots of babies are born with it, it can disappear as the little ones grow or eventually have surgery. Princess Louise has it too and apparently had surgery.

It's not a 'fault', how horrible to view it as a 'fault', disgusting.

JSMill · 04/02/2024 09:51

@Gottseidank I wonder if things would have been different if they hadn't chosen to bad mouth the RF. It's so embarrassing to see them show up at these obscure awards and events and their fans acting like it's a big deal.

Gottseidank · 04/02/2024 10:14

@JSMill I suspect that if they’d stayed on good terms with the RF (at least publicly) they would have been feted by all & sundry.

The whole approach to their departure was a terrible miscalculation. I wonder if they were advised? Might Oprah have insisted that they complained about the RF, as part of the deal?

SparklingBubbly · 04/02/2024 19:56

I have a lazy eye (too late to correct sadly) …excited to find out I have an ally in high places!!

FloofCloud · 04/02/2024 20:05

@SparklingBubbly well considering Johnny Depp can fly and has amblyopia he's a friend in with a similar issue in high places 😝

Sagharbor · 10/02/2024 11:49

FloofCloud · 04/02/2024 04:13

National statistics @Sagharbor national statistics

This is a bizarre unreferenced data. It means nothing.

And even though it did, with any poll conducted, the way a question is asked always influence the answers received.

If you think Meghan and Harry are unpopular, I do not know what you think of people wanting to have them in their events. But then, I'm sure you have an "answer" to that.

CoffeeCantata · 10/02/2024 13:14

Sagharbour

But they're pretty third-rate events, aren't they? Not exactly the selfless humanitarian causes they said they wanted to be involved with?

They're at the stage where they'll take anything, I guess, before their stock completely runs out. Just as long as they don't ever, ever preach about environmental awareness again...

FloofCloud · 10/02/2024 15:57

CoffeeCantata · 10/02/2024 13:14

Sagharbour

But they're pretty third-rate events, aren't they? Not exactly the selfless humanitarian causes they said they wanted to be involved with?

They're at the stage where they'll take anything, I guess, before their stock completely runs out. Just as long as they don't ever, ever preach about environmental awareness again...

Exactly - I rarely see anything positive about them that they don't themselves share

RosettaStormer · 10/02/2024 16:14

In ten years M will be in her fifties and H in his forties. The Windsor men don't age well and M looks very different already due to 'procedures'. They won't be able to use their Royal titles with any real clout anymore. All the Diana sob stories will be told so many times no one will be interested. That's when they will start using their children as currency is my guess.

JudgeJ · 10/02/2024 16:20

Maireas · 15/01/2024 17:26

I think that William was rightly cautious about Kate coming into the family too quickly, and not fully understanding what it would be like, and how her life would change. Possibly better to have a long courtship/induction period than rush in and find it all too much.

I seem to recall him saying in their engagement interview that things had been learned from mistakes of the past, referring, I think, to his parents' marriage and how Diana was catapulted into the Royal life with little preparation.

JudgeJ · 10/02/2024 16:26

Meghan has given very few interviews, written articles etc.

Not under her own name maybe but her influence and that of her vast entourage is there in much of what others write or say.

Serenster · 10/02/2024 16:42

Meghan has given very few interviews, written articles etc.

Not sure about your idea of “very few”? Off the top of my head,since she gained global attention due to her relationship with Harry there has been:

Interviewed for “Wild About Harry Vanity Fair article
Engagement interview
Guest edited Vogue with published letterform her included
Proven to have directly briefed Omid Scobie to get her desired points covered in Finding Freedom
Wrote letter to her father on the express basis it may eventually be published (it was)
Manifesto published on Sussex Royal
Oprah interview
OpEd in New York Times
Interview on the Ellen Show
Article in The Cut
6 episodes of their Netflix series
12 episodes of her Podcast
Interview in Variety

That’s not an exhaustive list. And doesn’t even begin to cover all the many, many public speeches she has given, in which she often spoke about herself. Or the many articles that have come out based on her team’s press statements, or sourced to “friends of the Duchess” etc.

mrsmingleton · 10/02/2024 16:42

Wouldn't you say Meghan's Tig posts and podcasts are just another kind of interview but one where she controls the agenda?

On the other hand she has done at least one too many interview with her lies and insinuations.

FloofCloud · 10/02/2024 17:28

mrsmingleton · 10/02/2024 16:42

Wouldn't you say Meghan's Tig posts and podcasts are just another kind of interview but one where she controls the agenda?

On the other hand she has done at least one too many interview with her lies and insinuations.

She always controls the agenda - lies and more lies / mistruths - it's laughable when she opens her mouth

mrsmingleton · 10/02/2024 17:43

I have rewatched several interviews/appearances recently and it's been interesting. I do think as has been said before that being part of the RF was not what she expected - she thought she was going to be more central and important . There is footage of PH allegedly telling her to be quiet at a certain part during a balcony appearance and she looks crestfallen. She loved and still does the public appearances and the waving. Then came South Africa and the "no one has asked me how I am doing" interview which came across as childish in the overall context. No one ever in the history of the RF asked the Queen how she was ! It's not what the job is about. That is for her and her husband. She certainly looks a lot happier now acting as big fish in a small pond as opposed to the reverse. You can still see though the Meghan who wants to be adored and applauded and when it eg involves Harry as opposed to her directly there is this initial show of disappointment almost across her face before she regains control and launches into it again smiling and nodding. She comes across as a very needy person.

RosettaStormer · 10/02/2024 17:45

mrsmingleton · 10/02/2024 17:43

I have rewatched several interviews/appearances recently and it's been interesting. I do think as has been said before that being part of the RF was not what she expected - she thought she was going to be more central and important . There is footage of PH allegedly telling her to be quiet at a certain part during a balcony appearance and she looks crestfallen. She loved and still does the public appearances and the waving. Then came South Africa and the "no one has asked me how I am doing" interview which came across as childish in the overall context. No one ever in the history of the RF asked the Queen how she was ! It's not what the job is about. That is for her and her husband. She certainly looks a lot happier now acting as big fish in a small pond as opposed to the reverse. You can still see though the Meghan who wants to be adored and applauded and when it eg involves Harry as opposed to her directly there is this initial show of disappointment almost across her face before she regains control and launches into it again smiling and nodding. She comes across as a very needy person.

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I agree and I wonder what it's all about. Did she feel she didn't get enough attention as a child I wonder? All very odd.

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