Meghan & Harry Were Lying From The Start, Weren't They?

[TheShellBeach]

As per the thread title.

Right from the word go, Meghan and Harry were not telling the truth. About anything.

Now the Netflix series has come out it just proves it, over and over again.

It’s always been a top notch University. Not Oxford and Cambridge level but certainly in the top ranks .

Yes it is. Took them 3 months to apologise. What those headline articles did was open the door for further and continuing abuse both in the print and online media. From November 2016 onwards, relentlessly.

You don't know about it because anything that might give any indication as to why H&M may have made some of the decisions they have is largely ignored. You see it here time and time again.

Neil Basu and his comments have had very little traction on here. Yet they get to the heart of everything that would possibly explain a lot of the actions H&M have taken. It would also offer some insight into why Harry is possibly so intent on pursuing the security issue with such passion. Of course its easier to make fun of him and dismiss him than find a reason for or try to understand his actions.

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In a sea of ludicrous comments this one certainly stands out. It shows that you know nothing about the level of St Andrews and the standards required to get in. Tip - have a look at the number of undergraduates they take in each year and then tell me it is easy to get in. It hasn't become " increasingly popular " since they went 😁 it always was! Have a look at the grades necessary to get a place there.

Totally agree

Are you ok?; Why are you screaming?

I quite agree, such a reductionist view of education. I know people who have graduated and then gone on to a career in a related industry. Others who graduated and then drifted for a while, most finding their niche somewhere, but often somewhere unrelated to their degree. Others who weren't academic or didn't fit the educational treadmill, and left school as soon as possible, all of whom have a life full of value and interest and some who have gone back to education while others haven't.

It helped that back in my day it was possible for people from ordinary backgrounds to graduate without much debt.

But I fundamentally disagree that there is a right and wrong way to use education, and that your value as a person rests with the job you do.

@unbelieveable22 That is an all quite a stretch. Their announcement is still on the SR website. They played out their own intentions there quite clearly.

I don’t make fun of him for wanting security but I do take issue with him demanding full-time assignments when he’s never even in the UK. I think he looks foolish for believing he knows best about what is required after watching that New York car chase debacle play out.

Did you read that daily mail article then? To ask someone if they are ok when you don’t like something they’ve said.

No its a reponse to her meme.

Catherine was a shop assistant at one point!

Genuine concern then?

Very interesting, people's perceptions of St Andrews as opposed to Oxbridge.

It's very definitely "up there" in the rankings - see attached from The Guardian.

Yes, you can find other rankings, such as the Times Higher Education and QS, where St Andrews does a little less well but these tables are skewed especially when they go global. In the perception of UK academics, St Andrews has for a very long time been at the tippy-top.

If I have an extremely bright student making five UCAS choices, it would be Oxford or Cambridge as first choice, then Imperial - but only if they are STEM students - that brings us to two choices so far - unless "not STEM" then it's just one choice so far - then St Andrews typically, then choice of UCL, LSE, Warwick.

Just so we're clear on where St Andrews stands 😊

Oh, and entry requirements are AAA for STEM courses, so on a par with Cambridge, and slightly more difficult than Oxford.

Oops that should read A-star A-star A

It was always posh. At the end of Mallory Towers they’re all shrieking, “See you at St Andrews!!” I can remember at the time of reading I had no idea what St Andrews was.

I thought that too

Yes, it was in The Crown even! (or, at least, they depicted her as a waitress!).

*LaMarschallin · Today 16:03

jeffgoldblum · Today 13:26

Catherine was a shop assistant at one point!
I thought that too *

Thought she worked in the central buying office, and understood that they were very flexible about her taking time off, leaving the office etc etc. So dont think she was doing shifts folding sweaters.

Who knows? Edward's daughter Louise apparently had a summer job in the local garden centre. Presumably doing whatever a summer job entails in a garden centre

St Andrew's wasn't always "up there" it was for Posh English thickos. William went there because he couldn't get into Edinburgh.
Its standing went up massively when he and Kate went there.
At the time the alternatives to Oxbridge were mainly Bristol and Durham. And for History of Art which William was first going to study the Courtauld out ranks Oxbridge.

‘Thickos’? What absolute nonsense. I say that as someone who knows a lot of people who went there. All Scottish by the way.

@MollyButton that’s just not true that St Andrews was for posh thickos. I am in my 60s and remember the reputation the university has had over a long period of time. I am now a university lecturer. It always been considered a very good university demanding good grades (I’ve no personal connection with the place).

It’s true that St Andrews has always attracted the English upper classes. But the upper classes have generally really well educated since after the Second World War. I don’t know why people think they aren’t, it’s like a throwback belief.

You really are talking out of your arse. Yes there were many English students there in the 1970s and yes we Scottish did consider them as Oxford and Cambridge rejects but let's be honest that's not a bad title to have 😂"It's standing went up massively"? The oldest of the Scottish Universities and the third oldest in the English speaking world?

Have you even looked at St Andrews' ranking, Molly? First in the UK, ahead of Oxford and Cambridge, according to The Guardian's tables. Yes there are other tables but it's never any lower than 6th.

Have you looked at their entry requirements? A-star A-star A for most courses. Those requirements have remained static for the past two decades. Is A-star A-star A terribly poor?