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Meghan & Harry Were Lying From The Start, Weren't They?

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TheShellBeach · 15/12/2022 17:47

As per the thread title.

Right from the word go, Meghan and Harry were not telling the truth. About anything.

Now the Netflix series has come out it just proves it, over and over again.

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Samcro · 15/01/2024 11:55

SparklingBubbly · 15/01/2024 11:09

It’s not a competition and it’s not like for like. Catherine was a university student, a teenager, and 16 years younger when she met William. After she left uni her jobs kept getting kyboshed by media interest. Meghan didn’t get her break on Suits till she was 30. If William hadn’t met Catherine until she was Meghan’s age when she met Harry, who knows what she’d have been doing!

kate was 29 when she married William, so plenty of time to have a career.
shocked myself when I googled as i thought she was younger.

Mylovelygreendress · 15/01/2024 11:57

Sisterpita · 15/01/2024 11:20

What has surprised me is how the new Robert Hartman biography appears to have named sources or at least a strong indication of who the source is.

Robert Hardman is a well respected writer and has written several well received books about the RF.
He was behind the Boxing Day programme about the Coronation having spent a year shadowing The King .
Any sources will have been approved.

SparklingBubbly · 15/01/2024 12:15

Samcro · 15/01/2024 11:55

kate was 29 when she married William, so plenty of time to have a career.
shocked myself when I googled as i thought she was younger.

She had several jobs. She was also chased down the street on a daily basis, it made virtually anything impossible. If she’d had time to build a career before she met William, she probably would have been quite successful, she excelled at school.

Viviennemary · 15/01/2024 12:21

Rockybooboo · 15/01/2024 10:02

What do you think the motives were?

Motives. Much as their motives usually are. To stir up trouble and cause discord. IMHO.

AliceOlive · 15/01/2024 12:23

I hate the negative insinuations about women’s motives for marrying and talk about their prior work before marriage.

What I do always find telling though is when posters who frequently wail about bullying are keen to engage enthusiastically in the conversation when it starts and very pleased at the chance to drag even more women into it.

It’s vile.

SparklingBubbly · 15/01/2024 12:27

AliceOlive · 15/01/2024 12:23

I hate the negative insinuations about women’s motives for marrying and talk about their prior work before marriage.

What I do always find telling though is when posters who frequently wail about bullying are keen to engage enthusiastically in the conversation when it starts and very pleased at the chance to drag even more women into it.

It’s vile.

Yeah the whole Catherine vs Meghan thing is such BS anyway they have nothing in common

Rockybooboo · 15/01/2024 12:28

Viviennemary · 15/01/2024 12:21

Motives. Much as their motives usually are. To stir up trouble and cause discord. IMHO.

So you think Meghan name into the family purely discord and stir up trouble. Not that she came in for love, was a bit naive about what it would entail. Then had a baby, had post natal depression, unable to cope with the Royal role, wanted to home, missed her mates. Her husband decided to go with her.

AliceOlive · 15/01/2024 12:31

Yes, all kinds of evil caused by comparing people or oneself to someone else. I suspect it’s really at the heart of both family estrangements.

Even the book title says it all. Harry defining himself based on the role of someone else.

AliceOlive · 15/01/2024 12:34

SparklingBubbly · 15/01/2024 12:27

Yeah the whole Catherine vs Meghan thing is such BS anyway they have nothing in common

I think the very point is what does it matter what they may or may not have in common? Would we be sizing up two men this way?

AliceOlive · 15/01/2024 12:50

I think Meghan came in for love but was expecting things to be very different including her own level of influence.

I think she and Harry compared their home, as newly married with no children to what W&K had current day.

I think she didn’t like the boring ribbon cutting grind. Also that she thought she could be granted more favor and potentially better titles by being beautiful, charming and well-liked by people.

When this didn’t work I think they planned to monetize the titles and use the money to gain more power while maintaining the parts of royal life they enjoyed. When told that wasn’t an option they left, still missing some key info.

I don’t question their love and commitment for one another. Nor for their children.

petticuliar · 15/01/2024 13:10

@SparklingBubbly She had several jobs. She was also chased down the street on a daily basis, it made virtually anything impossible. If she’d had time to build a career before she met William, she probably would have been quite successful, she excelled at school.
She didn't have any proper jobs. A family friend who owned jigsaw gave her a part time job where she. Put come and go as she pleased. Her parents gave her a 'job' with the family business. These were not real jobs.
She didn't excel at school. She did fine. Just fine.

AuroraCake · 15/01/2024 13:43

petticuliar · 15/01/2024 13:10

@SparklingBubbly She had several jobs. She was also chased down the street on a daily basis, it made virtually anything impossible. If she’d had time to build a career before she met William, she probably would have been quite successful, she excelled at school.
She didn't have any proper jobs. A family friend who owned jigsaw gave her a part time job where she. Put come and go as she pleased. Her parents gave her a 'job' with the family business. These were not real jobs.
She didn't excel at school. She did fine. Just fine.

She prioritised her relationship...which if it worked out was a lifeline career. That is her business and that of her parents who supported her. Thr mileu she moved in she would probably have married money anyway and done you know posh girl stuff like art or crafts or something. Nothing wrong with that, not judging.

Ultimately it was her choice and she was supported by her parents. She went after what she wanted. It's not an easy life.

She did very well at school.AAB in A Level. A very high grade for the time.

Sisterpita · 15/01/2024 13:45

@Mylovelygreendress thank you - interesting.

AliceOlive · 15/01/2024 13:57

petticuliar · 15/01/2024 13:10

@SparklingBubbly She had several jobs. She was also chased down the street on a daily basis, it made virtually anything impossible. If she’d had time to build a career before she met William, she probably would have been quite successful, she excelled at school.
She didn't have any proper jobs. A family friend who owned jigsaw gave her a part time job where she. Put come and go as she pleased. Her parents gave her a 'job' with the family business. These were not real jobs.
She didn't excel at school. She did fine. Just fine.

Care to tell us about your life so we can assess the realness of it all? I wouldn’t actually do that to you, though.

Why do women do this to one another?

Before I am accused of not applying this equally to all parties, please know I am not going to drag any other woman, royal or otherwise into this base debate about the usefulness of women. I’ve never done so and not going to start today.

Ollybollydobdobflowers · 15/01/2024 14:12

Catherine got an A in A'Level maths. I'd say that's a mark of an intelligent person. And St Andrew's has a very high grade threshold, up there with Oxford and Cambridge.

Rockybooboo · 15/01/2024 14:13

AliceOlive · 15/01/2024 13:57

Care to tell us about your life so we can assess the realness of it all? I wouldn’t actually do that to you, though.

Why do women do this to one another?

Before I am accused of not applying this equally to all parties, please know I am not going to drag any other woman, royal or otherwise into this base debate about the usefulness of women. I’ve never done so and not going to start today.

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I got a post deleted for asking someone what they had done with their life compared to Harry when she'd made comments about his life so it must be against the rules.

AliceOlive · 15/01/2024 14:25

Rockybooboo · 15/01/2024 14:13

I got a post deleted for asking someone what they had done with their life compared to Harry when she'd made comments about his life so it must be against the rules.

Read my post again.

Ollybollydobdobflowers · 15/01/2024 15:33

SilkFloss · 15/01/2024 10:02

@ThighMistress Where is that from? (About the trademark for Lilibet Diana)

Don't know about trademarks, but the domain names were registered on 31 May 2021 according to the Telegraph and confirmed by a spokesperson for the couple to People magazine. Their daughter was born on 4 May. The Sussexes said they asked permission for the name, the BBC reported at the time that the Palace said the Queen had not been asked. They were threatened with legal action by the Sussexes, but the Palace didn't back them up, and the article is still there. Robert Hardman's book seems to confirm the lack of permission that the Sussexes claimed they sought and received.

Mylovelygreendress · 15/01/2024 15:40

She was born on 4th June

Ollybollydobdobflowers · 15/01/2024 16:18

Mylovelygreendress · 15/01/2024 15:40

She was born on 4th June

Sorry, yes that is correct, that was a typo in my post.

JSMill · 15/01/2024 17:16

I have to say I didn't think much of Kate for apparently 'wasting' an excellent education to wait around for William. However I know see she spent a long time preparing for her role and she's doing a great job. It's also clear the paparazzi made it impossible for her to work normally.

Maireas · 15/01/2024 17:26

I think that William was rightly cautious about Kate coming into the family too quickly, and not fully understanding what it would be like, and how her life would change. Possibly better to have a long courtship/induction period than rush in and find it all too much.

RosettaStormer · 15/01/2024 17:30

There is so much snobbery on this thread. I went to university and got a good degree. Some may say I didn’t ‘do’ anything with it , but I don’t regret my degree. What a strange world where people are judged on what job they got and whether they ‘did’ anything with their education.How do we know what benefits Kate got from her education and how it informed her view of life? There is more to life than having a well paid career sometimes. I’m sure in her current role she feels well educated and well informed enough to mix with everyone she meets. She is her husband’s equal. What has William ‘done’ with his degree? Less than she has probably. Yet we don’t hear
any judgement about that.
What has Charles ‘done’ with his History degree for that matter? Is his education considered wasted because of that?

petticuliar · 15/01/2024 20:19

Ollybollydobdobflowers · 15/01/2024 14:12

Catherine got an A in A'Level maths. I'd say that's a mark of an intelligent person. And St Andrew's has a very high grade threshold, up there with Oxford and Cambridge.

It's not 'up there' with Oxford and Cambridge ffs and it was not hard to get into when they went. It has been increasingly popular since they went.

petticuliar · 15/01/2024 20:21

@AliceOlive I would be just as disappointed with a man who had all the opportunities and wasted them waiting around for someone to pay for their lifestyle. The Middleton son is hardly someone to aspire to either. Tbh although they have apparently done well, the Middleton's bred fairly useless children.

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