Meghan’s mock curtsy

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full Disclosure I am no Meghan fan. However if we don’t try to see people as multifaceted and full of attributes, strengths and weaknesses we will never understand the truth. I honestly believe when she did that mock curtsy she was completely taking the piss out of herself. She says something afterwards such as “ I hadn’t got a clue what I was doing “. I think harry is embarrassed at the dramatic bow and also a bit sad that she is resorting to taking the piss out of herself.

Thousands upon thousands of famous people from all around the world have lined up to meet the Queen and managed to curtsy without making such a song and dance about not knowing how to it "because they're not British." Why? Because it's having basic manners and respect as grown adults and not needing to create a big drama.

Good point! Also good point above about other countries and cultural traditions and signs of respect. Simply, if I was going to meet a head of state, I'd find out beforehand how I should behave. It doesn't mean that I think they are my superior or that I'm bowing snd scraping because I'm lesser, it would just be politeness and respect for traditions.

As an aside, I'm amazed so many people think Meghan has the self-awareness or sense of humour to "poke fun at herself". I think she takes herself very seriously and hasn't seemed very aware of how certain things come across.

It was self deprecating and I don't think they she intended to mock the queen. She's clearly mocking the custom though and trying to appeal to.the U.S audience by showing and telling us how odd this tradition was to her. Supported by Harry's who told us this was strange. She wanted to audience to take away her perspective on how she felt doing this strange thing - not actually laugh at her.

My frustration is that she feels such traditions are outdated and irrelevant and yet she signs everything with Dutchess of Sussex. She cares very deeply that those traditions are upheld because they benefit her. She was clear in the Oprah interview there she wants her children to have titles because it's their birth right. She is very happy with a hierarchy when it places her family above others and leads to huge financial gain. She objects and laughs when she is asked to participate to show respect to others who are above her in the hierarchy. The hypocrisy is very frustrating and they never acknowledge it.

They can't ever break the ties because they need the connection for the money but they can't stand being below others in the institution. This is not a recipe for happiness.

I mean, that’s all well and good, as long as you’re not going in Oprah to complain about your kids not getting their ‘birth right’.

Pick a lane.

Well, he knows her better than us, so if even he felt it was off, there must be something in it, no?

Basically, what I’m getting from the comments here are:

It didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, they deserve it.

Curtseying to an old woman who is ostensibly royal and called the Queen whatever that means is the height of absurdity. It's ridiculous. Brits think others must revere their pomp and ceremony but to many it just looks like a circus act but with diamonds and rubies

Doesn’t wash when she’s happy enough to avail herself of the diamonds and rubies though. And flaunt her title at every opportunity. And whine about her children not receiving what she determines to be their birth rights. And to accept curtsies from others. Hypocrite.

Her frame of reference was "Medieval Times"

Fancy using this as a frame of reference. How embarrassing for her. Betrays so much.

But it's what she had and she's just admitting it.

I agree with this.

The whole thing is a shit show. I still can't believe that Harry would sell his soul to Netflix. What next, TikTok videos?

The whole thing is so sad and desperate. Meghan was a fantastic addition to the RF but what are they actually doing now? Just sitting around in their mansion, doing interviews for cash. What a pointless existence. They could've really made a difference had they stayed in the RF and got stuck into some proper charities, Harry's armed forces stuff, overseas tours and representing UKplc rather than just bullshit gala dinners.

I also never bought into the press hounding that Meghan was supposed to have received. I'm old and I remember the drubbing that Camilla and Sarah Ferguson received. Meghan got nothing in comparison to that, most of it was sniping about them going on private jets and tittle tattle about her family.

The clip of Meghan doing the fake curtsy is about the most cringeworthy thing I’ve seen. She’s had poor advice to have let that go public. It’s not self deprecating - it’s quite the opposite. And it will never go away now that it’s out there. That clip will still be being replayed in 20 years time when she’s selling some duchy of sussex self-care products on QVC.

Agree. She thinks it's an amusing anecdote, but it falls flat and Haz just looks embarrassed for her.

I don't know why Markle thinks the Brits have to behave and have similar traditions as Americans. When she went to Tonga, sat on the floor and received natural flower collars nobody heard a peep.
But the world must evolve around her. Talk about gaslighting other cultures, or their family things.

She was just the lowest I have seen in that scene. Not a total fan but I thought it was past the mark for anyone.

Anyways Harry's face was the best part of it! He was horrified, the poor thing, but he is deep in it now and bet the house a while ago.

This is going to end badly, because she will not get what she wants.

I think it was a very good act. Her hair dramatically down and the slow pace and all that.
But what do they know, this series is made for the Americans so anything goes and the production and fact checking will be sloppy.

I felt it was fully mocking, it was the way she said ‘your majesty’ then side eyed Harry, who immediately looked down.

And they literally zoomed in on his face. That jaw clench shows he was not impressed.

It was 50/50 I think

Half mocking herself and half mocking the institution and the fact she even had to curtsey.

The story didn't match the Oprah's interview though, so that's going to get shredded, and rightly so. Both accounts can't be correct, so either she looked like a lemon bending over like a jester in a month python holy grail scenario or Sarah Ferguson taught her how to do it properly.

You know who I blame in all this more than anyone though, the ginger twat sat next to her. For a military man he obviously decided any sort of "briefing" wasn't needed, and just flung her into the deep end by the looks of things. He's stupid yes, but you'd think having been an actual member of the family all his life and knew the inner workings, the rules and regulations he'd explain it to her.

I mean even in our plebian families we "brief" the other half on meeting the parents. I.e take off your shoes in mum's house, or don't sit in the chair by the window that's dad's chair. Or even "the dog will try and hump you, sorry" 😂

Without the royal family connection they would not be leading the hugely extravagant lives they lead, I don’t believe for one second she didn’t realise that she had to curtesy to the head of state regardless of whose granny she was . They live in a beautiful mansion, designer clothes, a lovely family and they’re still moaning about how hard they have had it . Meghan was happy to have the big state wedding and all the royal traditions it came with . I think they need to look at the bigger picture of how the world is at the moment and realise how lucky they are !

Isn't it funny how British accept Andrew. A womanising paediphile and focus on this couple with thier young family.

Had she been white.......

I am outraged by Prince Andrew's behaviour.

I am appalled by Meghan and Harry's behaviour, too, but Prince Andrew's behaviour is definitely worse.

However H & M are much more interesting to talk about. There is no controversy around Andrew - everyone detests him.

Agree, harry and Meghan are deeply controversial now but more and more people are struggling to defend It. I don’t for Example believe for one moment the palace were sending out briefings against Meghan to stop other stories appearing, and anyone with at least an iota of common sense knows the media in this country would just ultimately print both. The front page isn’t some once and done, it’s a daily thing. Sure a story can take it off todays front page, but it’s not taking it off tomorrows, and it needs to be more sensational than what was going to be printed in the first place.

Andrew is bad in a different way, sure, same shameless entitlement , same lack of self awareness, same dishonesty, but having sex with a 17 year old trafficked woman then lying about it, then paying her off, is heinous. Hanging around wit paedophiles and sexual traffickers, it does not get much worse.

I recall reading years ago that Andrew on arriving home found the gates locked one night and didn’t wish to drive the few mins to rhe gate at the other side. So he smashed through them in his 4x4. I can’t even get my head round that. It stuck with me as the thought of smashing your car through your gates instead of driving an extra couple of mins, is a mind boggling level of entitlement .

my husband served with him in the navy and said he was Both lazy, superior and entitled, and has many stories that would make people uncomfortable. I won’t repeat them here, but will say the guys a dick and a womaniser. He likely thought Virginia wanted to have sex with him, even thought he knew her position and quite frankly didn’t give a fuck, if she didn’t.

the difference between them is harry feels he’s a victim and he wants revenge. He’s also low intelligence, jealous, insecure and is easily manipulated . Andrew has a superiority complex, but is also low intelligence, and has a level of entitlement rarely seen, two ends of rhe same spectrum. Generations of inbreeding having a visible impact.

anne seems the only really decent one. She works solidly. She’s tried to give her kids as normal an up bringing as possible,She stayed with her mother rhe last few days at the end, cancelling all arrangements to be in balmoral with her , she escorted the coffin back from Scotland and the sight of her curtsying to her mothers coffin at holyrood actually brought a tear to my eye.

don’t get me wrong, Charles was also close by in Scotland those last few days , but it was Anne who stayed with her.

but harry versus Andrew in the shameful stakes, Andrew is worse, but they are both appalling.

The deflection brigade is out. Who will disagree about the lowly former spare. Let's not even use his name.

I agree with @CaptainBarbosa Harry is not smart but he should have known better nonetheless. But because everything evolves around Markle they probably didn't have time to talk about these secondary things like you are marrying an institution and a culture that is NoT American - surprise surprise.

There is an element of dumbness in her too which stems from being so self cantered.

I see these series as Oprah II. She still not getting what she wants, and digging deeper. It is just more of the same

So we are in phase one of the American campaign which is to establish the narrative.

You need that to eventually get to a lasting phase of monetisation.

So it goes
1: this is who I am, a victim, a humanitarian, these people were so naughty with me, and I am so innocent
2: follow my news and what I am doing, support me look giving to this cause and winning this award
3: ah please also buy my stuff because that way you support ME (and my luxury lifestyle American royalty carrier of the truth kind of thing)