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Are Netflix secretly playing Harry and Meghan?

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username8888 · 10/12/2022 20:14

H&M think they are dictating the Netflix narrative, but I wonder if Netflix are actually playing a longer game? This was billed as their story, but they are so tone deaf and are exposing themselves to ridicule with their ham fisted attempts to justify their behaviour. It's so full of ridiculous unsubstantiated statements and generalisations with no evidence to back it up. It's using stock photographs of photographers that have nothing to do with them. Why not show real photographers? A ridiculous car chase with a lone photographer on a moped provoking panic and faux fear in the couple is laughable. And as for Harry's face as Meghan takes the piss out of the queen? This was definitely seen by the editors who chose to leave it in.

Will Netflix get a double helping from this series with the candy-floss fluff that's the first airing, with a second being the dissection of this sad and deluded pair?

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FrippEnos · 11/12/2022 13:37

AngelaBrazilNuts

Don't you know that you are not supposed to mention the lies, misinformation and rewriting of various scenarios?

AngelaBrazilNuts · 11/12/2022 13:39

I also forgot to mention that as well as needing a good memory, the most successful liars need to be able to seduce-by whatever means-their audience into believing them.

So, although Harry and Meghan fail hopelessly and haplessly, at needing a good memory they have-as their cheerleaders on this thread have demonstrated- been able to seduce several into believing them.

Some will have believed because :

nothing the hopeless pair can ever do will be viewed as a negative.

they think they are some sort of Che Guevara/Corbyn type standing up for the oppressed

they dislike the Royal Family,

they simply shouldn't be let out without their mothers .

So, well done H and M-as I now believe you like to be called when not insisting on Duke and Duchess- for fooling a great many people. Sharpen up your stories and you'll have it in the bag!

SirChenjins · 11/12/2022 13:39

So when exactly did they get engaged - was it before or after she phoned her friend and they cooked the chicken in the garden?

StickyCricket · 11/12/2022 13:41

I thought the original engagement story was that they were roasting a chicken and she turned around and he was kneeling on the kitchen tiles holding the ring out.

SirChenjins · 11/12/2022 13:44

So when did she phone the friend and when did he propose in the garden? Confused

RosettaStormer · 11/12/2022 13:44

StickyCricket · 11/12/2022 13:41

I thought the original engagement story was that they were roasting a chicken and she turned around and he was kneeling on the kitchen tiles holding the ring out.

Yes. Clearly forgotten her lines there!

MarshaMelrose · 11/12/2022 13:53

Blanketwars · 11/12/2022 11:59

I just can’t get past her recording herself calling her friend to say he’s proposing. Making the call yes. Recording it? Why? For what purpose?

To eventually make money from it somehow is the only thing I can think. And then how on earth has she got that past ‘H’ when she brought it out for the documentary. Has that not made him think at all??!!

It does make that old rumour that she photoed or filmed W&Cs children, which put them on edge, seem more credible. I wonder if she self-filmed in Buck P or Windsor? A quick snap of her and granny?

debbrianna · 11/12/2022 13:57

Aspiringmatriarch · 11/12/2022 12:46

For example, your engagement over a chicken dinner, then it's outside and finally, although it was a huge surprise, a friend was on standby to film it.

Nope, chicken definitely got a mention in both stories, sorry! Also most people have some sort of an inkling when a proposal might be a likely possibility. And a friend wasn't there filming it either.

Do you see liars everywhere? You must be constantly combing through people's anecdotes for inconsistencies!

I agree as I was wondering and thinking I had missed something and maybe time to rewatch.

MarshaMelrose · 11/12/2022 13:58

And if he.chooses to make some of that money by flogging a few stories about that bunch of inbred weirdos and the way he and his wife have been treated then so be it.

Unlike everyone else, you've clearly approached the documentary from an unbiased and balanced position.

Moxbeal · 11/12/2022 14:03

I don't get the car scene in New York? Firstly, why would they not insist on a car with blacked out windows? Secondly, there wasn't any paps there so why was Harry looking around so frantically as though they had 30 paps surrounding them?

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username8888 · 11/12/2022 14:06

Moxbeal · 11/12/2022 14:03

I don't get the car scene in New York? Firstly, why would they not insist on a car with blacked out windows? Secondly, there wasn't any paps there so why was Harry looking around so frantically as though they had 30 paps surrounding them?

Paranoia. He wasn't joking about his poor mental health ☹️

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Moxbeal · 11/12/2022 14:10

username8888 · 11/12/2022 14:06

Paranoia. He wasn't joking about his poor mental health ☹️

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Then surely black out windows would at least help.

Although they were on full display in that car with clear windows in New York and still weren't hounded by paps so his paranoia is definitely in his head. Although she didn't help by feeding it.

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username8888 · 11/12/2022 14:10

@Aspiringmatriarch But they didn't want out. They wanted 50% in. They asked the queen. She refused. It's not a fabricated story it's fact.

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Aspiringmatriarch · 11/12/2022 14:14

username8888 · 11/12/2022 14:10

@Aspiringmatriarch But they didn't want out. They wanted 50% in. They asked the queen. She refused. It's not a fabricated story it's fact.

Yes, including financial independence. Which meant not receiving tax payer funding and presumably a level of control they felt they needed given all the leaks and unpleasantness going on.

StormzyinaTCup · 11/12/2022 14:18

I don't get the car scene in New York? Firstly, why would they not insist on a car with blacked out windows? Secondly, there wasn't any paps there so why was Harry looking around so frantically as though they had 30 paps surrounding them?

Yes, that was ridiculous. It was just like someone shouted 'take one' dropped the clapperboard and off they both went acting out a 'chase' scene in a film.

ImaginaryDragon · 11/12/2022 14:18

“I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizens Councillor or the Ku Klux Klanner but the White moderate who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice.” Martin Luther King

Never a truer word has been written. Meghan suffered intense racism from many sources - the paparazzi, well known media personalities... OP, you and all the other haters keep telling yourselves that all their fears were unimagined and that they are the perpetrators. 'Never complain and never explain' is from a different time and place and is absolutely unacceptable in the face of racism or any other bigotry or prejudice.

AngelaBrazilNuts · 11/12/2022 14:23

Intense Racism!
The UK went wild praising and welcoming her when she married, including the papers.

There are not racists under every bed. Stop being so pathetic.

She comes across as a nasty woman to me and I very much resent being told that I can't say that about a woman whose father is white and whose mother is black.

It's a Get Out of Jail Free Card when anyone criticizing a person of mixed heritage is told they're a racist. Wearing fucking thin.

Sep200024 · 11/12/2022 14:24

Yes, this ⬆️

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 14:26

teapotfullofsquash · 11/12/2022 08:16

I thought a lot of it was odd. The video diaries as soon as he left the royal family. The strange proposal conversation she had with her friend. Also I don't think Harry comes across very well as he didn't seem to prepare her for what was quite obviously expected of her.

What came across to me was the sheer volume of what she would have to know.

I presume he presumed!

I would not have expected the formailty to continue in the home. If I was dating one of them and they said I had to bow to the Queen in a private setting it would have been taken by surprise too. I also would not know how to do it (and am pretty sure my knees would not cope)!

Due to the Crown and this scandal we now know about that now but remember when the first season of the Crown came out how surprised everyone was with the bowing at home?

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username8888 · 11/12/2022 14:26

@Aspiringmatriarch Were you in the meeting then? They wanted security, which is taxpayer funded so not financial independence. Harry presumably wanted to keep his father's allowance going. You have no idea what the financial arrangements that were proposed were. When they left Harry is on record as saying his father cut him off financially (which is a proven lie as Charles tax records show), and Harry also attempted to sue because he was denied police protection. This is all verifiable. btw. I could do with some police protection as a private citizen. Do you think it can be arranged?

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Sep200024 · 11/12/2022 14:27

I would actually go so far as saying, ImaginaryDragon might be racist.

Otherwise, why keep bringing the topic up and purposefully infuriating people who would never pay the slightest bit of attention to the colour of someone’s skin.

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 14:33

Xenia · 11/12/2022 09:50

I've watched the first three. The worst part for me is how the UK is described to the US audience, the pictures of racist marches etc which albeit it do exist are not the major feature of British life that is perhaps implied. I didn't even know MM's mother was 56% black when I watched Suits. I liked MM in suits. However I have not been happy with some of the things the couple have said since which have not always been completely honest - that is my only objection and the fact they have also chosen to air things in public which is not the compact we have between royals and the people in the UK. We let them reign because they give us access to an extent to their family lives and they do not interfere in politics etc etc. I am a royalist and on the whole think they do good.

Harry could leave and easily have accepted a low standard of living in the county shires of the UK or US equivalent and never do a press interview and be left alone largely if he managed it well enough. Instead they seem to want to have their cake and eat it.

On a personal level I don't like the way they do not have it in them to take the children to see either grandfather even just for a few hours once a year. That is pretty mean. It is not as if the grandfathers have branded them with hot irons and will murder their children.

The grandfather's dear friend owns the Daily Mail.

The Grandfather could ask the Daily Mail to tone it down.

Instead the owner of the Daily Mail is at every State funeral, every State dinner and so on.

Now think, if it was your df and your dh? Your DF's close friend running 6+ negative articles per day against your DH - what would you do?

SeaShellSnow · 11/12/2022 14:34

ivykaty44 · 11/12/2022 10:13

Harry is an overprivileged twat.

there was a quote from Harry stating

we wouldn’t have been able to do this with his mothers inheritance

that’s really interesting, anyone can walk away, the money isn’t important unless you can’t live without large wealth

Mais oui. He is still a spoilt and entitled princeling.

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username8888 · 11/12/2022 14:35

@ImaginaryDragon Intense racism? What? The media thought they were the saviours of the royal family and a breath of fresh air. They loved them in the initial period, to a ridiculous extent. This was the period the couple said drove them out of the UK.

Do you not know it is considered hate speech and punishable by law? So there was no 'n' word, as they claim, no overt racism anywhere. In fact a sycophantic idealisation of Meghan.

For the 3 or 4 unpleasant comments (crompton, whatever that is) there were thousands of articles praising her. The internet is different but thats down to twitter etc, so i can't comment on what was printed there. Post Mexit the tone has become very hostile, but that is purely in response to their hostility

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CuordiMela765 · 11/12/2022 09:02

Why are people so insistent that it was a drunk driver OR the paparazzi that killed Diana? It was a combination of both. They wouldn’t have had to change plans so often or tried to outsmart the paps by leaving from the back of the Ritz and driving ridiculously fast if they weren’t being hounded across Paris in the first place. AND their chauffeur was over the limit and not able to make good judgements.

There’s always potential for danger when a lot of vehicles are chasing a target vehicle, instead of just driving along a street and attending to the road. Surely people can understand that?

And the defensiveness and small-mindedness of pps on here bleating “well it wasn’t the British paparazzi” who chased Diana, well no it wasn’t, but British people, along with many other nationalities, were responsible for buying tabloid newspapers, which created the market for photographs in the first place. It was well documented at the time that sales of a newspaper doubled if a photo of Diana was on the cover.

H & M were not saying that all of the British public are racist either. They said how welcomed they felt by the public but that the press attention started to get too intrusive bordering on dangerous. For example Meghan was sent white powder in an envelope and received a death threat. Wouldn’t you want your wife and dc out of there in that situation?

Everyone needs to read a copy of the Leveson enquiry Part One in to dubious press practices and be aware that the then culture secretary, the “lovely” Matt Hancock shelved the commissioning of Part Two in 2018, and not a lot relating to press standards has changed or improved since then.

It’s really a disgrace that powerful tabloids can write virtually anything they like about anyone, it doesn’t have to have even the mildest basis in truth, and very few people can afford to take them to court over it.

But apparently everyone hoovers up the racist and misogynistic bile that the Daily Mail and other red tops put out there every day, and no one gives a shit! I think H & M were responding to that rather than accusing the British public directly of racism. But it’s impossible to totally ignore the question : if we read the Daily Mail does that make us racist and misogynistic too?

well said