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Can we now agree the press coverage about MM was racist?

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bagthoughts · 10/12/2022 09:39

Only comment if you've seen the Harry and Meghan documentary because only in that programme did I become aware of the headlines.

If you've seen this programme specifically the images of some of the headlines and STILL don't think some of the press coverage was racist then quite frankly you're part of the problem.

I quote, she has 'exotic DNA', Harry marries a ''gangstar' and 'she is from Crenshaw where they have xxx crime rates last year' (she wasn't even from Crenshaw), 'straight outta Compton'

Seriously, do you seriously think this would have been said about a blonde hair blue eyed women?

For the record, I'm not a H&M fan at all - you don't have to like them to see that the headlines were racist, why can't brits just admit and agree on this?

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Karwomannghia · 10/12/2022 20:12

@leithreas yes that’s the main part of it certainly and it’s vitriol from all directions for many reasons. There is also racism.

ClannadSinger · 10/12/2022 20:18

@Roussette I'm sorry but it's not well hidden amongst my friends. None of them are racist and dislike her because they are racist and it's an insult to say they are.
I'm fed up to the back teeth of being accused of racism if we dislike a person of colour.

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bagthoughts · 10/12/2022 20:19

Reservoirbogs · 10/12/2022 09:55

The press coverage was racist. However the public wasn't and isn't racist towards her

Except for all the vile social media comments and comments on the racist articles? Death threats etc

No wonder they left, I think they did the right thing. Good luck to them.

And no OP, I don't read the tabloids so had no idea until I watched the Netflix show. I actually hadn't realised just how prevalent racism is in England, seeing that footage of the brexit rallies was shocking, although the vote should have been a giveaway I guess.

Yes same I never saw many of those headlines until the documentary but now I have the fact that journalists constantly sit there saying it wasn't racist makes me sick to my stomach - and just enhances why there IS still an issue with race in Britain that for some reason people want to deny

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debbrianna · 10/12/2022 20:27

ScrollingLeaves · 10/12/2022 17:09

Blueskythinking123 · Today 10:14
I personally found it difficult to know if all the clips of the press scrambling for pictures were separate occasions.

Apparently some of those scenes of rushing photographers in the trailer were falsely pasted in from entirely different events that had nothing whatsoever to do with M&H or the RF.

I read that in the Times the other day.
I don’t know if that is the case within the actual documentary.

Then you will.now know that in the documentary there is context to it. They were not random.

Karwomannghia · 10/12/2022 20:28

@ClannadSinger do your friends know her?

Roussette · 10/12/2022 20:30

ClannadSinger · 10/12/2022 20:18

@Roussette I'm sorry but it's not well hidden amongst my friends. None of them are racist and dislike her because they are racist and it's an insult to say they are.
I'm fed up to the back teeth of being accused of racism if we dislike a person of colour.

@ClannadSinger Fair enough. But I know that it can be hidden. I don't mean to insult you. My DD has married a person from another culture and an acquantance/could be called friend, of mine was 'surprised' how much she liked him. Why? He's great! But why be surprised, he's just a bloke who is lovely. Would she say that about someone of our culture. Doubtful. Perhaps I'm projecting. It makes me wary

ClannadSinger · 10/12/2022 20:35

@Karwomannghia irrelevant.
The debate is if they and I are racist towards her. They're not. And neither am I. We don't like her but not because she is mixed race.

Karwomannghia · 10/12/2022 20:40

No, the debate is actually about the media fuelling racism.
the fact you and your friends say you don’t like her is odd to me though, if you don’t know her, you’re just reacting to different stories about her. Do you have strong feelings about everyone in the royal family and celebrities? Do you sit around talking about how you don’t like certain famous people? Who else don’t you like?

Janieread · 10/12/2022 20:49

Karwomannghia · 10/12/2022 20:40

No, the debate is actually about the media fuelling racism.
the fact you and your friends say you don’t like her is odd to me though, if you don’t know her, you’re just reacting to different stories about her. Do you have strong feelings about everyone in the royal family and celebrities? Do you sit around talking about how you don’t like certain famous people? Who else don’t you like?

Lots of people don't like lots of celebrities! Look at I'm A Celeb. The two black women got voted out first. Now that IS racist imo.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/12/2022 20:49

I honestly believe the people who like her are not good judge of characters.

there are not many people posting saying they LIKE her per se. But there are plenty like me, saying they can’t understand the people who say they hate them. And people DO actively say they hate them. There is a vast different between being open-minded enough to think there might be some truth in what they’re saying and to give them a chance to give their story, and actively expressing a liking for someone. Don’t confuse the two.

I think I am a VERY good judge of character. Good enough to know that with the Royal Family the public is only shown a persona. The rest is rumours. A LOT is hidden. I’m guessing there is stuff that has gone on that would be shocking to the nation, that we will never find out because they are a closed book. Yet people spout these ridiculous notions of “loving” William, or Kate, or the Queen. Of crying hysterically at Diana’s coffin going past. It’s a totally bizarre notion when you think about it. So few words or personal opinions have actually come out of any of their mouths, yet people think they know them.

Roussette · 10/12/2022 20:53

@CurlyhairedAssassin
So right. Great post

Karwomannghia · 10/12/2022 20:54

Yeah sure say a celebrity is an idiot or something when they’re showing themselves up on reality tv is normal but actively disliking someone you don’t actually know just seems strange to me. Unless they’re a politician who is making people’s lives a misery.

CuordiMela765 · 10/12/2022 21:15

NaturalBae · 10/12/2022 12:49

All racist. All of it. And loads of MN posters were shamelessly and disgustingly racist by posting awful things about M whilst painting H as a saint. Let’s see if any of those same posters still feel the same after watching the Netflix shows. Most of them would have changed their MN usernames since and wouldn’t dream of admitting that they are insecure and fearful of people that they do not identify with.

Racist people hate being called out for being racist.
And the other haters are just uneducated sheep who were gaslit and are still allowing themselves to be gaslit by the hateful British Press.

The delusion and gaslighting is real and is clearly continues re. some ignorant people. The Unconscious Bias and the ‘othering’ of people is real all over MN and social media in general.

I heard that Piers Morgan is now posting half dressed photos of his Wife from years ago, in order to prove that he is not salty as a result of M ignoring him around the time that M met H 🤣 An attempt to prove that his relentless, obsessed and stalker style vitriol against M is not based in racism 😑

I’m glad the British Press and ‘some’ racist British people are getting called out.

I’m just hoping that some positivity and re-education of the masses in regard to Britain’s history (empire, Colonialism/slavery, etc) takes place after all of this has been ‘clearly’ exposed for exactly what it is.

Well said. Totally agree with this ^^
👏

Coucous · 10/12/2022 21:25

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jamoncrumpets · 10/12/2022 21:26

Nobody has any idea how she behaved in the wedding preparations.

So many idiots on this thread, who have no idea how they've just been played like fiddles by the tabloids.

jamoncrumpets · 10/12/2022 21:28

ClannadSinger · 10/12/2022 20:35

@Karwomannghia irrelevant.
The debate is if they and I are racist towards her. They're not. And neither am I. We don't like her but not because she is mixed race.

So why don't you like her then? And how did you gain that impression of her?

Was it, perhaps, from the media?

Qazwsxefv · 10/12/2022 21:29

She’s American. And divorced. Republican - - not the political party but the belief system. And has/had a career outside of marriage to a Royal. And has opinions of her own.

these are all going to cause anger from the British press.

the fact she is mixed race itself isn’t an issue. If she had been British (or from a commonwealth country) and not previously married, a housewife and meek and quiet husband then the press would have continued to love her - she would be heralded as a wonderful sign of how diverse the royal family was now. But she isn’t any of these so the Media are going to go for her with anything they have - and then her race is pulled into it (which isn’t ok)

This is England. The royal family is literally supreme. Her grandmother in law (QEII) and now her father in law (Charles) are not only head of a nation, but head of the church, called upon by god to rule us. They are worshiped. There aren’t normal people - for her to go into this thinking that they are just other famous celebrities is really naive and I’m not sure if that’s her fault, Harry’s fault or the palaces fault. I wonder if it is possible for someone raised republican - that all people are equal, can fully ever comprehend a monarchist country - the head of state/head of church, raised to a higher state by god, being a family member is just incomprehensible. Was Megan non-white but from a similar reserved monarchist country I think things may have been different - if say Harry had fallen in love with a Japanese women.

At the very heart of it I don’t believe it’s fundamentally racist. They are after all married in a wedding celebrated by the royals and the state. Archie is sixth in line for the throne. A mixed race man could be our king, called upon by god to rule this country and lead its church. If there was racism at the key of this then this is what people would be angry about - that god might set a mixed race person over them - but it’s not, it’s all about a women (an American divorced one at that) daring to have an opinion.

(I think there’s nothing particularly wrong with MM, I think she’s right to stand up for her family, I fully agree with them leaving the uk with its archaic laws giving the monarch rights over their kids (no way would my Gran-in-law or FIL be having legal custody of my kids) but I think she was naive and misled to marry into this institution.

ClannadSinger · 10/12/2022 21:30

@jamoncrumpets based on what SHE put out on her Harry and Meghan Netflix doc and Oprah interview.

Qazwsxefv · 10/12/2022 21:30

*beside her

meek and quiet BESIDE HER husband

jamoncrumpets · 10/12/2022 21:31

ClannadSinger · 10/12/2022 21:30

@jamoncrumpets based on what SHE put out on her Harry and Meghan Netflix doc and Oprah interview.

And nothing else?

CuordiMela765 · 10/12/2022 21:31

I think it’s a real shame Harry and Meghan never acknowledged that people were so happy for them - it feels like instead of some elements of the press we are as a country the problem

But they did say several times how well it went at the beginning. And how warmly they were welcomed across the country. I think the footage of their Nottingham visit was being played at the time.

I think H & M laid the fault for it going wrong mainly at the foot of the racist press and some racist elements within the palace. But of course if the British tabloids are racist , which they patently are, then we the members of the British public who read the tabloids are by definition racist and need to take responsibility for that.

jamoncrumpets · 10/12/2022 21:32

CuordiMela765 · 10/12/2022 21:31

I think it’s a real shame Harry and Meghan never acknowledged that people were so happy for them - it feels like instead of some elements of the press we are as a country the problem

But they did say several times how well it went at the beginning. And how warmly they were welcomed across the country. I think the footage of their Nottingham visit was being played at the time.

I think H & M laid the fault for it going wrong mainly at the foot of the racist press and some racist elements within the palace. But of course if the British tabloids are racist , which they patently are, then we the members of the British public who read the tabloids are by definition racist and need to take responsibility for that.

The documentary showed people being happy for them at length. Maybe you just ignored that bit.

Qazwsxefv · 10/12/2022 21:34

The last member of the royal family to want to marry an American and a divorcee had TO GIVE UP THE THRONE to do so. It’s a much bigger issue than her skin colour for us brits (yay we’re not racist as a country just xenophobic holier than tho misogynists)

jamoncrumpets · 10/12/2022 21:34

ClannadSinger · 10/12/2022 20:18

@Roussette I'm sorry but it's not well hidden amongst my friends. None of them are racist and dislike her because they are racist and it's an insult to say they are.
I'm fed up to the back teeth of being accused of racism if we dislike a person of colour.

You mean black person, right? You have a bit of anti racism work to do.

ClannadSinger · 10/12/2022 21:41

@jamoncrumpets what work? Tell me. Because I said person of colour instead of black. This is what stirs the pot.
I am not denying there is racism towards her from the media and it's disgusting. But I can one hundred per cent tell you I don't have a racist bone in my body and the fact I am being told I have work to do because I said person of colour is stirring things up.