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Can we now agree the press coverage about MM was racist?

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bagthoughts · 10/12/2022 09:39

Only comment if you've seen the Harry and Meghan documentary because only in that programme did I become aware of the headlines.

If you've seen this programme specifically the images of some of the headlines and STILL don't think some of the press coverage was racist then quite frankly you're part of the problem.

I quote, she has 'exotic DNA', Harry marries a ''gangstar' and 'she is from Crenshaw where they have xxx crime rates last year' (she wasn't even from Crenshaw), 'straight outta Compton'

Seriously, do you seriously think this would have been said about a blonde hair blue eyed women?

For the record, I'm not a H&M fan at all - you don't have to like them to see that the headlines were racist, why can't brits just admit and agree on this?

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Buttons294749 · 10/12/2022 15:16

The DM prints racism every single day and yes they were racist towards her in some of their articles. The DM's main function is to promote racism, xenophiba and mysogony.

hoipolloih · 10/12/2022 15:17

I will get flamed for this but I think "straight outta Compton" was just a poorly thought out tabloid headline, they always try and make tenuous connections for puns. If they were talking about Croydon or Tottenham or Essex they'd find something similar to make a snappy headline.

Soontobe60 · 10/12/2022 15:19

Reservoirbogs · 10/12/2022 09:55

The press coverage was racist. However the public wasn't and isn't racist towards her

Except for all the vile social media comments and comments on the racist articles? Death threats etc

No wonder they left, I think they did the right thing. Good luck to them.

And no OP, I don't read the tabloids so had no idea until I watched the Netflix show. I actually hadn't realised just how prevalent racism is in England, seeing that footage of the brexit rallies was shocking, although the vote should have been a giveaway I guess.

You do realise that the show on Netflix wasn’t produced, filmed, edited or directed by someone who was completely - or even slightly - impartial don’t you? The whole thing is a PR opportunity writ large.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/12/2022 15:27

Buttons294749 · 10/12/2022 15:16

The DM prints racism every single day and yes they were racist towards her in some of their articles. The DM's main function is to promote racism, xenophiba and mysogony.

Yes, they are absolutely vile if they take a dislike towards a woman. The front page yesterday was 2 big pictures of H and M, stills from the show. The one of her was a deliberate attempt at putting her down in my view. It was her not looking her best, bare faced with a towel wrapped round her head. They do it deliberately, they did it to Cherie Blair, picking the worst photos, through pure misogyny. Vile paper. It's not proper journalism at all. I won't even mention the other way they view and describe women, the Celeb z-listers in that crappy celebrity side bar they have.

I just don't understand how people buy or read that. They view women as sex objects or someone to be hated and villified. Nothing in between.

arthurfonzerelli · 10/12/2022 15:29

hoipolloih · 10/12/2022 15:17

I will get flamed for this but I think "straight outta Compton" was just a poorly thought out tabloid headline, they always try and make tenuous connections for puns. If they were talking about Croydon or Tottenham or Essex they'd find something similar to make a snappy headline.

But she wasn't from Compton?

Isn't that the point?

If she is from there, please correct me but it was my understanding she wasn't?

debbrianna · 10/12/2022 15:31

Theunamedcat · 10/12/2022 15:07

What I noticed about the Oprah Winfrey show was a lot of the headlines used and attributed to UK were not in fact the UK version of that paper they were headlines run in other countrys they say the wedding was a "spectacle" for the British public honestly if they had wanted to get married in private they should have

I agree. The main part of the conversation is always cut out and people run with the headline. from previous conversations about this. The UK version that aired was shorter and some parts cut out. It's also partly of why they keep trotting the privacy bs.

hoipolloih · 10/12/2022 15:31

@arthurfonzerelli isn't that why it said "almost"? If it's nearby?

Roussette · 10/12/2022 15:32

debbrianna · 10/12/2022 11:28

I also think there is love from the public for harry, and it does not extend to Meghan. From day one, the threads on here have proven it. There was nothing she could do. The hate also rampped up after the engagement. I remember it was so bad I had a user name as along the line of "love Harry and meghan" just to piss people off.

Thank you for saying this.

I've been around forever and I have seen how this whole thing has evolved. There were lots of threads running her down straight after the engagement, one in particular entitled "I'm fucking sick of Meghan and Harry already".

In an idle moment I read it all. It is VILE. Nasty, racist crap. Not all of it of course but there are some bad posts in it.

Now tell me everyone loved her. BULLSHIT

MzHz · 10/12/2022 15:43

Treacletoots · 10/12/2022 09:48

Of course it was and I'm delighted that someone finally had the means, and bravery to call them out on it.

I think the tabloids are the source of most of the current shit we have in society today, racism, misogyn, homophobia, xenophobia and if they were shut down tomorrow the world wouldn't miss them/would be a much better place

I agree.

and again and again you get people on mn sharing fucking DM links

STOP READING THAT SHIT! It’s the scum of the earth and the cause for so much that’s wrong, brexit, racism, homophobia, their unremitting campaign against single mothers, victims of domestic abuse, the lot.

I judge people who read this shit.

MistletoeandBaileys · 10/12/2022 15:48

100% the media was racist towards her. But to me in the documentary they seemed to be lumping the general public and the media in as one big group.

Which just wasn’t fair. I remember doing the grocery shop early in the morning the day of their wedding so I would be home in time for it! There was so much support for them from the public. Obviously racism is everywhere which is a sad reality but to paint the British public as being completely racist didn’t sit right with me.

The over exaggerated curtsy also didn’t sit right with me.

But as an aside, the press were awful about Catherine for years and that did stop once Meghan came along. They got someone knew to pick on.

But they were also awful about Diana, Camilla, Sarah, Beatrice and Eugenie, Princess Margaret even. And they were awful about Beatrice in particular from her teenage years and her appearance which is just disgraceful. I can’t imagine how damaging that would have been.

I also think Chelsey Davy was given awful press coverage while she was with Harry too. I did always think she was the one for him though! Remember the camera focused on her at their wedding?

I don’t think Harry is coming across very well. This will damage him much more than Meghan.

username8888 · 10/12/2022 15:55

debbrianna · 10/12/2022 13:22

No those are the in-your-face articles that you can't deny the racial elements for.

well, give us some more subtle indicators of racism from the newspapers.

Badger1970 · 10/12/2022 15:55

Every woman marrying into the RF has suffered at some point at the hands of the UK media. I can't understand why no one ever raises the point that it is only the women that endure this.

It's not racism, it's sexism.

debbrianna · 10/12/2022 16:10

username8888 · 10/12/2022 15:55

well, give us some more subtle indicators of racism from the newspapers.

I am sure you have heard of microaggression but the Google is free, seeing that you can post on this thread.

The Meghan made Kate cry was a form of microaggression.

kirinm · 10/12/2022 16:31

ClannadSinger · 10/12/2022 09:44

The press coverage was racist. However the public wasn't and isn't racist towards her. Everyone loved her at first. The animosity from the British public now has nothing to do with her skin colour.

The public reaction is based heavily on the media and they went in on full attack.

kirinm · 10/12/2022 16:34

Magnoliamarigold · 10/12/2022 10:09

I just hate the fact it has to be so binary.

Yes she was subject to vile racism and she married into a stuffy stuck up institution. I like how in the documentary they use people like Afua Hirsch to make the social commentary about black Britain and colonial legacies. It is important we use this context.

But yes she is also a pain in the arse, Californian huggy huggy moaner who is crying woe betide me in her mansion while teachers and nurses use food banks.

I wonder how moany moany you'd be if you have 100s of articles a day written about you moaning about how much you 'moan'.

kirinm · 10/12/2022 16:35

Karwomannghia · 10/12/2022 10:37

Haven’t watched but will now. And no the public did not all love her and even now comments are yes there was racism, but she should shut up.

Exactly this. People acknowledge the press was racist but somehow justify that by 'she knew what she was marrying into' and knew the palace never speak about it all.

This place is full of racist apologists.

kirinm · 10/12/2022 16:39

Georgeskitchen · 10/12/2022 11:56

The brexit vote was about taking back control of our laws and controlling immigration, not banning it. Since H&M have smeared a good proportion of the British public for what was a DEMOCRATIC VOTE, perhaps us taxpayers should be asking for our 31 million smackers which we forked out or their wedding back?

Seriously? The brexit leave campaign was repugnant in its overt racism and was purposely about dividing the country. Immigrants were an easy target.

kirinm · 10/12/2022 16:42

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debbrianna · 10/12/2022 16:56

kirinm · 10/12/2022 16:35

Exactly this. People acknowledge the press was racist but somehow justify that by 'she knew what she was marrying into' and knew the palace never speak about it all.

This place is full of racist apologists.

From the interviews and documentaries you can tell she didn't. On this one, my blame is on Harry. To a degree I don't blame him becuase he stated how he didn't know people cared about clothes worn these walk about. His first experience was with Meghan which was very telling. It was the first time he was in a room where people were faffing about what colours, shoes, and nail polish to boot

autienotnaughty · 10/12/2022 17:09

ClannadSinger · 10/12/2022 09:44

The press coverage was racist. However the public wasn't and isn't racist towards her. Everyone loved her at first. The animosity from the British public now has nothing to do with her skin colour.

But surely the press have influenced public opinion

ScrollingLeaves · 10/12/2022 17:09

Blueskythinking123 · Today 10:14
I personally found it difficult to know if all the clips of the press scrambling for pictures were separate occasions.

Apparently some of those scenes of rushing photographers in the trailer were falsely pasted in from entirely different events that had nothing whatsoever to do with M&H or the RF.

I read that in the Times the other day.
I don’t know if that is the case within the actual documentary.

Janieread · 10/12/2022 17:13

I totally agree that a lot of the press was racist. I was sad that it drove M and H away as I thought she'd be really good for the Royal family and this country - yes, because she was mixed race - not sure if this makes me racist - but I believe if they were truly happy they would put it behind them and move on with their lives.

Janieread · 10/12/2022 17:15

autienotnaughty · 10/12/2022 17:09

But surely the press have influenced public opinion

No, I don't think so. I don't like MM much at all now because I hate that cringe California 'my truth' 'wellness' shtick. I thought she was pretty cool at the beginning.

PeaceJoySleep · 10/12/2022 17:18

Greenshake · 10/12/2022 09:41

Some of it was, some of it wasn’t. Some of it was in fact very complimentary.

True.

I think the angle ''the coverage was racist'' is so incredibly frustrating because the vast majority of the worst of what was said was on social media. Same as for Kate. To this day.

jamoncrumpets · 10/12/2022 17:20

ClannadSinger · 10/12/2022 09:44

The press coverage was racist. However the public wasn't and isn't racist towards her. Everyone loved her at first. The animosity from the British public now has nothing to do with her skin colour.

Such ignorance.