Can we now agree the press coverage about MM was racist?

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Only comment if you've seen the Harry and Meghan documentary because only in that programme did I become aware of the headlines.

If you've seen this programme specifically the images of some of the headlines and STILL don't think some of the press coverage was racist then quite frankly you're part of the problem.

I quote, she has 'exotic DNA', Harry marries a ''gangstar' and 'she is from Crenshaw where they have xxx crime rates last year' (she wasn't even from Crenshaw), 'straight outta Compton'

Seriously, do you seriously think this would have been said about a blonde hair blue eyed women?

For the record, I'm not a H&M fan at all - you don't have to like them to see that the headlines were racist, why can't brits just admit and agree on this?

I agree though that it seems to be only these 4 quotes mentioned. All I remember are positive stories in the early years, but latter ones are pretty appalling, but then so has the behaviour of M&H been, so they've only themselves to blame on that.

Yes some was racist, some wasn’t.

its ok to criticise someone’s behaviour and call it out when it’s bad, that’s not racism , it’s not ok to do it because of their skin colour, that’s racist.

no one should be aiming to silence all criticism of this toxic pair under the banner of racism, everyone should be looking to stamp out any that is racist.

and that’s a really important distinction. A blanket it’s all racist does no one any favours. An ability to identify what is and what isn’t, is key.

Yeah but we are talking about the racist stuff.

If your partner said you were a fat ugly cow but also occasionally said you were a good looking lass would that be okay?????

The brexit vote was about taking back control of our laws and controlling immigration, not banning it. Since H&M have smeared a good proportion of the British public for what was a DEMOCRATIC VOTE

And how's that working out for you? Not a democratic vote when many Brits working in the EU at the time were not sent their postal vote on time and when some expats despite having British passports weren't allowed to vote at all.

Yes of course it was racist.

Interesting to read that there are many on this thread who say "yes it was racist, I still hate her". To those people, why do you hate her? What has she done wrong? I am really struggling to find something. The rumours about her treatment of staff and how she spoke to people were in fact just rumours.

There were some very salacious rumours about her brother in law, but I am not seeing many threads on here about that. Perhaps because they are rumours. Whereas with Meghan they are (unconfirmed) facts and people hate her.

What have you seen her doing wrong?

No those are the in-your-face articles that you can't deny the racial elements for.

I heard that Piers Morgan is now posting half dressed photos of his Wife from years ago, in order to prove that he is not salty as a result of M ignoring him around the time that M met H 🤣 An attempt to prove that his relentless, obsessed and stalker style vitriol against M is not based in racism 😑

He was bloody awful to her - relentless is the word. As obsessed as some on here.

"Press coverage in England?"
Just England? Or do you mean the UK but have lapsed into a lazy stereotype.

These threads are examples of requests victims of racism are meant to keep receipt of all their racial violence and why just to prove a point that those disagreeing with not accept.
1- avocado gate was in relation to Meghan not being white and contributing to other non-white people's death.

2- the debate around the banana gate during the south African trip was racist. Now we also know that dealing with a fire and crying about it was not out of character. Mums cry all the time becuase lie with a baby is not easy.

Broach gate was racist. Those are the ones I can think of just now.

If you notice, piears only tends to target black and nonwhite women.

Absolutely those headlines were racist. I hate the fact that they think thats why people dont like them though.

If MN has direct representation of the public, then people hated Meghan from the beginning. Both Old threads standing and deleted ones would prove it.

I honestly believe the people who like her are not good judge of characters.

The articles written about her especially when they first met were undoubtedly racist, every reference was something along thr lines of ‘mixed race Meghan’, I don’t recall Kate Middleton being described as ‘white’ when she met William. Her skin colour was completely irrelevant yet it was mentioned in every article.

I don’t agree with the insinuation in the documentary though that the UK is a racist country and it’s not fair to tar us all with that brush. Netflix have been very unfair with some of their editing, insinuating that royal palaces have imagery of slavery etc, those images/items shown in the documentary were not at royal palaces.

Only comment if you've seen the Harry and Meghan documentary

I think this is unfair. People make a judgement and have an opinion on a subject based on past and present data. It's already pointed out that some past irrelevant images were used in the trailer. I doubt how truthful the documentary is.

When Barack Obama met the queen didn't he stand next a racist painting they forgot to remove at the time? Or do I have the recollection may very thing

Absolutely racism.
Her behaviour shouldn’t mean that she should accept racism. Talk about victim blaming.

It was also interesting the “contract” with the press. If they place nicely with them then nice headline will be printed (words to that effect).

In the beginning she ignored the press as did the palace. It was Harry who first called the press out for the racism.

Exotic DNA shouldn’t have been in articles.
She wasn’t the first person to marry in who wasn’t born in the UK.

News outlets should be held accountable for what they print and this should also include fact checking. She was called all kids of bitches for not calling her dad and then uninviting him to the wedding.

I think it was his one I was thinking off. I doubt it's the only painting or collection of art the family has.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2016/apr/29/what-drew-william-kate-negro-page-painting-barack-obama

Fair enough, I hadn’t seen that, that’s not acceptable but the examples shown on the Netflix documentary were from museums or other stately homes. I just think this sort of behaviour by Netflix takes away from the actual examples of racism that she was subjected to.

I’m not a fan of either of theirs, I think they could have had the privacy that they said they wanted without any of the fuss, interviews and documentaries - they had enough money to go and live their lives in luxury, let the fuss die down and have a private life with their children but they took a have your cake and eat it attitude.

But she was undoubtedly a victim of racist reporting from the uk media.

Absolutely racist, yes. It's utterly shameful.

Really, 'everyone' loved her? Even Jo Marney, the girlfriend of a UKIP chief, who said that she would taint the royal bloodline?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5266657/Ukip-leaders-girlfriends-racist-Meghan-Markle-messages.html

Give your head a wobble. There are many, many members of the British public who are categoricially racist behind closed doors and who view the royal family as one of the last bastions of white supremacy.

The examples in the documentary was showing how black and brown people where being/was portrayed in the UK in museums and galleries. Remember that most of those who went on voyages were paid for by the crown. That's what I got from watching Afau and David within the documentary. Someone can correct me if I am wrong.

I agree. This is why her hate and death threats are coming from white supremacist terrorist groups and not others.

‘Interesting to read that there are many on this thread who say "yes it was racist, I still hate her".’

Who are these many PP - can you name them ? Or even one PP who has said they hate MM on this thread?

I reckon I would argue that a lot of the press negativity was borne out of misogyny rather than racism, but whatever it was, she had a shit time. I don't think anyone can really argue with that. Even if the other royal women also had a shit time, it's not a race to the bottom.

What I don't really get about them is that many of their complaints are legitimate, so why do they feel the need to invent new ones or exaggerate? That just undermines their argument. Eg. Suggesting that the UK tabloids called Archie the n word. As far as I'm aware there isn't any evidence of this. Why not stick to complaining about stuff that actually happened if you're hoping to garner public sympathy?