Can we now agree the press coverage about MM was racist?

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Only comment if you've seen the Harry and Meghan documentary because only in that programme did I become aware of the headlines.

If you've seen this programme specifically the images of some of the headlines and STILL don't think some of the press coverage was racist then quite frankly you're part of the problem.

I quote, she has 'exotic DNA', Harry marries a ''gangstar' and 'she is from Crenshaw where they have xxx crime rates last year' (she wasn't even from Crenshaw), 'straight outta Compton'

Seriously, do you seriously think this would have been said about a blonde hair blue eyed women?

For the record, I'm not a H&M fan at all - you don't have to like them to see that the headlines were racist, why can't brits just admit and agree on this?

How do you know it didn't happen in private? That's how I understood when I read about it. But for some reason, on other threads, when this has popped up, evidence has been requested and commented on as part of the lies they are telling. Are we also saying that if something happened in private, they can't mention it unless they have evidence to prove it?

And yes she has been the victim of racism, classism and misogyny by parts of the U.K. and global media and parts of the public via SM which is deplorable.

This is a poor analogy.

“The Media” is not one outlet.

Parts of the U.K. and global media were / are vile.

Other parts were / are complimentary.

All racism, misogyny and classism should be called out all of the time.

A drunk driver who was speeding and the not wearing of a seatbelt caused her death, sadly.

Within the press and in certain upper class / gentry circles, I think that there was (and still is) a deep-seated dislike of Americans marrying into the Royal family, caused by the scandal of Edward VIII abdicating in order to marry Wallis Simpson. By all accounts she was universally loathed and the Queen Mother only ever referred to her as 'that woman'.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was partly her being an American divorcee that caused Meghan to be treated the way she was by certain people.

Not particularly.

How do you know it didn't happen in private?

But MM herself brought this claim into the public arena recently - so unless it was said directly to her face by a journalist with no one else to witness then it wasn’t private - and the evidence can be produced / incident corroborated and then the journalist exposed and held to account.

Call it out, root it out. Shine a light on it - sunshine is the best disinfectant.

I am not sure the coverage was racist - I think the press try and drag up things on all people marrying into the royal family. I don't know at what point M decided then to speak about being a bi-racial person - at which point it is understandable that this might be referred to when writing about her. The events and causes chosen then related to race which then would be more of reason for it to be mentioned. Having watched all three episodes I didn't really come away thinking any more negatively or any more positivity than I did before.I don't think some of the comments did them any favours - ie formal behind closed doors and the exaggerated curtsey but I would put these down to being American. That said I am not sure that if someone had criticised customs in another country it would be taken so lightly.

I think its difficult to come to a conclusion until all the episodes are aired - what I do hope is that after this they both feel they have had their say and that's it, they can't keep droning on about what has happened after six hours of air time one would hope that they would have said everything they wanted to.

The press were horrible to her but she gave them all the ammunition by lying constantly.

Name a lie.

Didn't she say that she got married before she actually did?

I think that the press were vile to her. I also think that she has lied. The 2 do not need to be mutually exclusive.

Out of interest becuase, I find this line of thinking fascinating in general. What would you consider racist and not in relation to Meghan? Just general interest.

And this had been explained so many times and why. When the archbishop was in Rome, and they asked him to clarify, he didn't deny meeting them before the wedding. He only confirmed that the wedding day was when they got married and signed the documents/ legal. So yes, they may have had a blessing that they consider to be their moment without all the media oggling down on them. They also state it was a wedding they didn't want and having that time to themselves was important to them.

What other lies do you have?

Agree

No. Some of the press coverage is/was racist, some wasn't. Just as some people are racist and some aren't. And sadly Britain doesn't have the monopoly on racism, it's alive and well all over the world.

Totally racist!

She said the press called her child the n word, no evidence for that one so it must be a lie.

Fingers in the ears and lalala

Press was all things bad. Keyboard warriors didn’t hold back - at all. Average person not racist BUT what Harry was trying to say that although anyone marrying into the family is a victim of the press, Meghan had that extra dimension of racism so the idea it was just a ‘rite of passage’ was an unacceptable idea to them.

Absolutely racist. Every single bit of it.

The way she (and by extension they) is the very epitome of misogynoir

The comments on this board are a prime example.

People simply not understanding that they are viewing her through their own largely/white/colonialist/uk lens.

A tale as old as time. Exactly why jane Eyre was viewed as a great feminist novel & at the time none gave a flying fuck about the black wife locked in the attic for not behaving in the way the white protagonist wished.

Some (many) have simply not moved in from the unshakeable belief that british is best.

(I've got news - it's not) Britian has a horrific history & even present. Old sins cast long shadows.

Megan is a whipping boy for those behaviours.

What I noticed about the Oprah Winfrey show was a lot of the headlines used and attributed to UK were not in fact the UK version of that paper they were headlines run in other countrys they say the wedding was a "spectacle" for the British public honestly if they had wanted to get married in private they should have

I thought the racist press was American and Canadian. I was wrong, obviously.

What makes you think ‘Brits’ don’t think it was racist? You do know that many ‘Brits’ are not white don’t you?

When couples who have had a legal ceremony and then a blessing say they count the blessing as the real wedding, are they called liars?
No of course they aren't.
So why do people pretend they cant understand that's what was meant here.
What reason could there be to twist the facts so much?

Strange argument. It's the public who reads the racist press coverage. Do you not think that some of them, the type of people who buy those rags who have a very malleable mind, might absorb some of that and start to think along those lines?