Am shocked Meghan said this…

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She said: 'Even when Will and Kate came over and I was meeting her for the first time I remember I was in ripped jeans, I was bare foot, like I was a hugger, I have always been a hugger I didn't realise that is really jarring for a lot of Brits.'

'I started to understand that the formality on the outside carried through on the inside, that there is a forward facing way of being and then you close the door and thing OK we can relax now, but that formality carries over on both sides and that was surprising to me.'

What an utterly horrible thing to say about your sister and brother-in-law. I am done with her now. People are DIFFERENT Meghan. We are not all like you you you you.

No, I’m pointing out that it doesn’t matter. Meghan laid out a simple story where she explained that she had underdressed and tried to be less formal, not realising that this would be treated like a more formal occasion.

No, that's not what she said. She didn't try to be less formal, she was just dressing how she wanted to. She didn't say they were offended by that, nor should they be.
By saying that she's a hugger, implies,she tried to hug them. Again, I don't think there's,anything wrong with that, but just like in the US, some people don't hug on the first yime of meeting. Nothing wrong with that either. Just a mismatch.

But don't then don't go on to say that they were formal all the way through. She's said previously they were welcoming to her. Why not just stick with that? Why now make it sound like they weren't?

Someone very close to me went to uni at the same time as her, and her mother called her Kate. All the time. Catherine is a new thing.

Yes, I'm expect she generally pays a lot of attention to getting things right.

I don't think she does. If she did she'd have been more prepared for stuff. When she was handing in her notice in Suits to move to London, she must have known there was a future together. She knew both his grandmother and father were head of state. And she never thought that she'd need to sing the national anthem? 🤔

But don't then don't go on to say that they were formal all the way through. She's said previously they were welcoming to her. Why not just stick with that? Why now make it sound like they weren't?

How do the two things contradict? Isn't she allowed to say more than one thing?

Even when Will and Kate came over and I was meeting her for the first time I remember I was in ripped jeans, I was barefoot

Disdain for the women (Queen, Kate), disdain for low-ranking men (her own husband, her father), but not for high-ranking men (W, Charles). Is there a pattern developing? Own opinion and all that, obviously.

What's wrong with meeting your boyfriend's siblings in your home in bare feet and ripped jeans that are fashionable (I have no idea why - no one looks good in them.) I'd think it would be an informal, relaxed meeting.

I think I’d have definitely put some shoes on.
Megan is arrogance itself and very obvious with it.

Definitely there's no winning when in comes to M&H, unfortunately. Most people are up in arms even though they have not watched the docuseries.

Most are taking offense when there's really no offense made, the same people who're quick to refer to others as "snowflakes" .

I watched the docuseries, and while it is sad that the media environment they escaped from was so toxic, it was nice to see them. It was a nice production, lovely photos, beautiful family.

I wish nothing but the best of luck to Harry and Meghan.

I don't think there is anything horrible in what she said? She's explaining how she was surprised at how formal they are, even in private. And who can blame her?! I'm from Britain and I'm surprised that they curtsey to each other private. It's actually ridiculous and stupid IMO.

She's from American culture, which is obviously very open and casual. She's not moaning, just explaining herself.

Nice try though, Op - you got 9 pages going on this. Well done 🙄

10 pages!

Because she saying they were formal and kept that formality all the time they were with her. She felt rebuffed. She's not going to feel welcomed by that. And yet previously she said she felt welcomed. It's contradictory.

Yes they do call her Kate. Why are you so adamant that it isn't the case when there is evidence that both William and Harry and her parents and friends call her Kate. You sound unhinged.

I can't stand being hugged and kissed by other people. I wasn't hugged or kissed when growing up and I dislike it now.
I make an effort with my son but that's it.
Does that make me a bad person?

@Itaintwhatyoudoitsthewaythatyoudoit 🤣 I wrote 2 comments about it, I wouldn't say that is being 'so adamant' I even said I stood corrected 😱🤣

And yet previously she said she felt welcomed. It's contradictory.

She said "I think [pause] they welcomed me" in the Oprah interview if I'm remembering correctly. So it was a bit more nuanced. I think it makes sense in context that they were more formal, more cautious than she'd previously had experience of but nonetheless they did welcome her. Neither contradictory nor particularly controversial IMO.

"I think it's more that people project their own unacknowledged attitudes and insecurities onto her tbh."

@Aspiringmatriarch, you are spot on here. The reason this thread is almost 40 pages long. So many people eager to take offense for the fact that Meghan decided to push back instead of just turning the other cheek.

No. And nobody has said or implied that it does.

What's wrong with meeting your boyfriend's siblings in your home in bare feet and ripped jeans that are fashionable (I have no idea why - no one looks good in them.) I'd think it would be an informal, relaxed meeting.

Nothing, afaics.
Meghan seems to be the main one fretting about it.
As I've said, W&K may well not have noticed what she was wearing. There's no suggestion they pointed and laughed at her toes or anything

She felt rebuffed. She's not going to feel welcomed by that

Yet she never said that. She just said she didn't realise. She never said she felt rebuffed. Nothing like it.

I can't stand being hugged and kissed by other people. I wasn't hugged or kissed when growing up and I dislike it now.
I make an effort with my son but that's it.
Does that make me a bad person?

Why on earth would you think you're a bad person for not liking being hugged or kissed?
We're all different!

Yet she never said that. She just said she didn't realise. She never said she felt rebuffed. Nothing like it.

She never said the actual words but of course that's what she implied. I mean I've written that I don't think she did anything wrong in her clothes, hugging, etc. (Although Americans know not everyone hugs when you first meet them. 🙄) But to go on and say they were formal right the way through and not reciprocating her warmness is definitely saying she was rebuffed and held at arms length. It's contextual.

She never said the actual words but of course that's what she implied

In your head maybe. I watched it and never thought that.

Yes, she dressed how she wanted to. Which was informal. She then realised she was underdressed. She did not at any point criticise anyone else or say they had to/should change to accommodate her, as the poster I was replying to said she did.

And it really doesn’t matter what you ‘think she implied’ because then we get into the murky territory of ‘oh she was smirking as she described her first curtsy because she wanted to send a message about she hates British culture and tradition.’ I’m judging by what op has quoted and labeled disgusting and awful blah blah. Which just isn’t - it’s a relatively bland and tame story.

Fair enough @Kanaloa

According to the BBC, recollection vary regarding the engagement interview 😆

Radio host Ms Husain said 'recollections may vary' in response to Meghan and Harry's claim their 2017 interview with her following their engagement was 'staged'. It came as Mr Witchell also branded Meghan Markle's claim that anyone was 'out to destroy' her as 'absurd'. He quoted one of Meghan Markle's statements in the first three episodes of the Netflix documentary released yesterday which said 'no matter what I did they were still going to find a way to destroy me.' Referring to the Duchess's allegation, Mr Witchell said: 'The first point who is they she is referring? I think it is the Palace but most particularly the press. But the idea that anyone was out to destroy her frankly I think is absurd and simply does not stand up to proper and reasonable scrutiny.'

Interesting.

Interesting.
Mr Witchell's opinions are usually rubbished by Royal Family supporters.