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Am shocked Meghan said this…

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Ndd135632 · 08/12/2022 09:58

She said: 'Even when Will and Kate came over and I was meeting her for the first time I remember I was in ripped jeans, I was bare foot, like I was a hugger, I have always been a hugger I didn't realise that is really jarring for a lot of Brits.'

'I started to understand that the formality on the outside carried through on the inside, that there is a forward facing way of being and then you close the door and thing OK we can relax now, but that formality carries over on both sides and that was surprising to me.'

What an utterly horrible thing to say about your sister and brother-in-law. I am done with her now. People are DIFFERENT Meghan. We are not all like you you you you.

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BigBamBoom · 08/12/2022 16:34

But I am ethnically Jewish so sit back down. I did (and still do) find the Nazi dressing up really offensive.

I was being sarcastic. I agree with you.

bakalava · 08/12/2022 16:34

BigBamBoom · 08/12/2022 16:34

But I am ethnically Jewish so sit back down. I did (and still do) find the Nazi dressing up really offensive.

I was being sarcastic. I agree with you.

Ok, sorry!

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 08/12/2022 16:36

Roussette · 08/12/2022 15:34

It doesn't. They're not better. If I was to write about the scandals, faux pas, shenanigans of the royal family, I would be here until a week next Tuesday. They are flawed human beings like the rest of us, with their share of scandal within the family.
Every family has something, they've had buckets of stuff going on. Look at Andrew, Princess Margaret, H&M, nazi loving Duke of Windsor, even Anne (who is held up as the best of the bunch) her ex husband fathering a child whilst still married to her. Why are they special?

It's not Anne's fault Mark Phillips couldn't keep his pants on.

BigBamBoom · 08/12/2022 16:38

@bakalava No worries. I try to stay out of these threads but sometimes frustration gets the better of me.

NerrSnerr · 08/12/2022 16:38

@CoffeandTiaMaria Are they really doing irreparable damage to 'everyone'? I mean it's been a rough ride but I think my family are just about coping with this shocking revelation and I think we can repair the damage that she has obviously caused us!!

The RF will be fine, they survived all the drama in the 90s and I'm sure William and Katherine et al will just about cope somehow. The royal family have very good PR nowadays (as these threads always show).

Roussette · 08/12/2022 16:41

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 08/12/2022 16:36

It's not Anne's fault Mark Phillips couldn't keep his pants on.

Totally agree. I was just pointing out about scandals and stuff going on within a family.

cyclamenqueen · 08/12/2022 16:41

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 08/12/2022 16:32

@cyclamenqueen In his book it was just a social nicety, like saying lets do lunch or asking how people are, he didn't mean it.

I absolutely HATE this. Saying stuff you don't mean isn't a social nicety, it's gaslighting and social incompetence.

I agree but the British do it all the time. If someone asks you how you are , you are meant to say ‘ fine ‘ not tell them all about your latest doctors visit.

‘we must have a coffee soon’ is just a way of closing a conversation, it doesn’t mean as my relative does ; ‘let’s get out diaries’ and sort a date now . However I hate the US constant smiling and wishing you a ‘happy holidays’ when they don’t know me from Adam , and really don’t care, they just want my tip. So it goes both ways .

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 08/12/2022 16:41

bakalava · 08/12/2022 16:34

Another one of the curiosities of Mumsnet - somebody who has openly racist on many occasions is now an anti-racist beacon of hope to many because he married a mixed race woman.

Can people not change?
The Nazi costume was nearly 20 years ago now.
I remember reading in an interview with him that meeting Meghan opened his eyes to racism, he saw it through a new lens so to speak, will try to find a link to it.
Experiences change and shape you.

bakalava · 08/12/2022 16:42

BigBamBoom · 08/12/2022 16:38

@bakalava No worries. I try to stay out of these threads but sometimes frustration gets the better of me.

I know I should too. I just watched it back-to-back and need to get it out of my system. They were paid to provoke a big reaction and get more people watching Netflix so I am only doing what they hoped. I think they both have a tendency to troll themselves!

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 08/12/2022 16:44

OriginalOrchid · 08/12/2022 15:56

Being so oppressed that you are able to drum up a whole Netflix series to showcase your oppression must be hard😥.

I reckon Harry is completely happy with the status and privileges that being a royal gives to him, he just hated that the woman he loves wasn't loved by everyone else. I suppose William and Kate did not take to Meghan and Harry is unable to forgive this. Welcoming the future King and Queen with no socks on probably didn't help matters 😂

Harry did rather marry her head over heels, which was not a clever move, seeing we are where we are. I hope they will have their happy ever after, they should be able to with being wealthy and so in love, 2 gorgeous kids and a mansion in California.

But with Meghan having fallen out with her side of the family and now they have fallen out with his family too, that's really sad for all involved. Luckily W&K's kids have cousins they can grow up with and be close to, the Sussex children don't have this.

Meghan has always wanted a cause to fight for or rather something to fight against, so they will fight on. They are both deeply troubled and I hope they will find their peace.

Good take.

Harry really botched this. I am no huge fan of the stiff W&C but if W really did advise caution, and slowing down, he was right.

Still can't get over the use of the Queen's nickname, either.

twinklystar23 · 08/12/2022 16:45

Thewomantheycantcalljayne I would assume that once W & C know people and know they can trust them they relax in private company.
When they were meeting M for the first time they probably still needed to be on their guard. They cant relax immediately the way we can with new people because who knows what stories would be sold about them if they did.

Seems W & C had their finger in the pulse? Sadly it still didnt protect them.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 08/12/2022 16:46

cyclamenqueen · 08/12/2022 16:41

I agree but the British do it all the time. If someone asks you how you are , you are meant to say ‘ fine ‘ not tell them all about your latest doctors visit.

‘we must have a coffee soon’ is just a way of closing a conversation, it doesn’t mean as my relative does ; ‘let’s get out diaries’ and sort a date now . However I hate the US constant smiling and wishing you a ‘happy holidays’ when they don’t know me from Adam , and really don’t care, they just want my tip. So it goes both ways .

I find that alien. I'd never say that to someone just to close a conversation. I'd expect them to get in touch with me to arrange a time! I'd just close the conversation appropriately.

Aspiringmatriarch · 08/12/2022 16:48

BellePeppa · 08/12/2022 16:08

Yes, the killer for their ‘career’ will be indifference. The lovers will watch and the haters will watch but the truly indifferent won’t. When there’s enough genuine indifference then they will struggle.

I'd look further up the line of succession for that particular problem!

Serenster · 08/12/2022 16:52

twinklystar23 · 08/12/2022 16:45

Thewomantheycantcalljayne I would assume that once W & C know people and know they can trust them they relax in private company.
When they were meeting M for the first time they probably still needed to be on their guard. They cant relax immediately the way we can with new people because who knows what stories would be sold about them if they did.

Seems W & C had their finger in the pulse? Sadly it still didnt protect them.

And Meghan did very quickly take a story about Kate to a Toronto gossip columnist that she already knew, that was published early in 2017 (Snobby Kate wouldn’t give Meghan a list to the shops) so they weren’t wrong about being on their guard…

Wiluli · 08/12/2022 17:08

And ? She is right . In fact I’m not a fan but I admit I like the Netflix documentary , I’m surprised I’m finding myself seeing her in a much better light .

CoffeandTiaMaria · 08/12/2022 17:08

Ndd135632 · 08/12/2022 12:19

@BellePeppa I’ve never come across such a whiny, complaining, fragile, lacking in resilience or robustness ‘strong’ woman in my life

me neither

Nor me, and I’m probably one of the older MNers.
And I have never met anyone more hellbent on finding fault, and selling it presumably to the highest bidder, with with as many members of one family as she is.
I don’t hate her as a person (I don’t know her obviously) but her behaviour stinks, as does Harry’s.

musingsinmidlife · 08/12/2022 17:09

RiverSkater · 08/12/2022 16:06

She could have said this without naming names. Seems to me away of signalling that she's all warm and huggy and Kate is uptight and unapproachable. 🤷‍♀️

This is how I took it too. Trying to make herself out to be this down to earth, warm neighbour next door person and then there is Kate cold and formal and all RF. It was a direct comparison of again, I am so great and she is so awful.

And huggers who like to grab people they have never met need to learn personal boundaries. I can't stand when people grab and hug me.

She may have been a bit surprised to find out they were a more formal or reserved family than she had expected behind closed doors but that happens everywhere. Usually you ask your partner what to expect when meeting their family. Are they formal or informal, huggers or not, like flowers or no, barefoot or shoes etc People ask about dress for simple events, much less than meeting your partner's family, particularly when RF, for the first time.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 08/12/2022 17:11

JudgeJ · 08/12/2022 15:37

As someone who recalls the Diana hysteria I felt at the time that Diana was extremely manipulative with public opinion making sure that the press were kept up to date when she wanted to be photographed, a number of journalists have confirmed this. She wasn't as admired before her death as many seem to believe, it was her untimely death that led to sainthood.

That's my recollection and impression too, but if you go back to the 80s there was this press 'rivalry' between Diana and Sarah. Once Sarah joined the family Diana could do no wrong and Sarah was dreadful.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 08/12/2022 17:12

She's 25pc black given Pa was Dutch and Ma was half white IMHO

Meghan's mother is not half white. See pic below with her obviously black grandparents.

Am shocked Meghan said this…
BettySwallocks · 08/12/2022 17:18

Hardly the worst thing that's come out of her mouth

LaMarschallin · 08/12/2022 17:20

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 08/12/2022 15:57

Bugger 😭🤣
I've been up since 5am and that's my excuse, what a nob ( me, not you lol) you are indeed correct and I meant comma 🙄😁

It's a fair excuse.
I've been bitten on the bottom in similar circumstances with no decent reason Smile

You're quite right, though - that sentence really needed a comma to make sense in the way that - I'm sure - the poster meant.

musingsinmidlife · 08/12/2022 17:24

I am not sure what more Meghan wants. Everyone to love her? She has the money and fame that she wanted, she got what she wanted from the RF and then left. She has her husband and kids and life in California hob knobbing with the rich and famous. What is the purpose of this?

LuckySantangelo35 · 08/12/2022 17:27

I dunno I would make a bit of effort to my appearance at meeting my sil for the first time - why wouldn’t you?! Why would you wanna look like a slob?

all this ‘take me as you find me’ stuff is a bit arrogant in my opinion

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 08/12/2022 17:28

musingsinmidlife · 08/12/2022 17:24

I am not sure what more Meghan wants. Everyone to love her? She has the money and fame that she wanted, she got what she wanted from the RF and then left. She has her husband and kids and life in California hob knobbing with the rich and famous. What is the purpose of this?

The purpose of what?
The documentary,?
If you watch it, they say themselves - there's many people out there, telling their story, people they don't know, have never met.... 😕..... so wouldn't it make more sense to hear their story from them , not strangers, or people with their own take on them?
With Harry and Meghan on this one, makes complete sense to me.

AnElegantChaos · 08/12/2022 17:29

@bakalava This I agree with. I don't actually mind H&M at all (although can't really say I care much) and I do think Harry was sincere in his apologies, and despite that massively racist incident I don't think he's racist. But some of the same people who were are fine with this seemingly won't entertain any kind of apology from David Baddiel. Because, well...

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