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Am shocked Meghan said this…

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Ndd135632 · 08/12/2022 09:58

She said: 'Even when Will and Kate came over and I was meeting her for the first time I remember I was in ripped jeans, I was bare foot, like I was a hugger, I have always been a hugger I didn't realise that is really jarring for a lot of Brits.'

'I started to understand that the formality on the outside carried through on the inside, that there is a forward facing way of being and then you close the door and thing OK we can relax now, but that formality carries over on both sides and that was surprising to me.'

What an utterly horrible thing to say about your sister and brother-in-law. I am done with her now. People are DIFFERENT Meghan. We are not all like you you you you.

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BigBamBoom · 08/12/2022 14:44

@Ndd135632 With Masters from Oxford. Next.

Just out of interest and sorry for the derail, would this be an MSc?

OriginalOrchid · 08/12/2022 14:45

I didn't realise that is really jarring for a lot of Brits.

Jarring is a bit of an extreme word to use and it's clear she doesn't like Brits. What's ridiculous is that with this statement she is actually being racist herself as she is most likely referring to white English people but says all Brits are like that.

The lunatics who say not liking Meghan = racism.... I also don't like Harry, but that's obviously not racism. It's a cheap shot. She absolutely will have experienced racism when growing up and also during her time in England, which is shit. But she could have used her amazing platform to really transform things, instead she is the eternal victim but one who criticises the UK but never the US.

Meghan has nothing to offer, or if she does, please share what it is, I'd love to know. She is rich, scrubs up well and is semi famous from being a soap lead. But with all these advantages, it's always about poor Meghan, those mean horrible Brits didn't like her, when in reality she simply didn't get the rules of royal engagement and Harry didn't help with that.

She got it all spectacularly wrong. When given the right guidance and attitude she could have done very well for herself and her family.

She refuses to be deferential, which is fair enough, but would be more convincing if she rejected the title Duchess and lived as ordinary Rachel Meghan Markle, or Mrs Windsor-Mountbatten or whatever works. Harry also should hand in his title, that would be actually cool and a bit subversive.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 08/12/2022 14:45

is it ok to shit on it because it fits an agenda?

She didn't shit on it. She made an observation, not even a criticism!

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 08/12/2022 14:46

Nat6999 · 08/12/2022 13:38

When you think about it Diana had to call Charles Sir & have a chaperone when they dated up to getting married. Had Diana still been alive she would most likely helped Meghan by giving her pointers on how to behave just as her Grandmother did for her.

Except Diana complained bitterly about the lack of support and preparation she got and how she was left to flounder with protocol.

The scene in The Crown where she messes up the order of precedence is based on an anecdote from Diana as an example of how ill prepared and unsupported she was.

yesforone · 08/12/2022 14:46

You are done with her OP? 😅She’ll be devastated.

RLScott · 08/12/2022 14:47

sunnyminds76 · 08/12/2022 14:41

Re Harry not educating Meghan about protocol. She's bright enough to know that perhaps meeting your RF husband's family for the first time you make more of an effort to find out. And why name them. It's just not very nice, is it?
And just as there are probably RF fans who see no wrong with K&W, the opposite is true as well.

She comes across quite dim tbh.

She did state in her podcast she had “ugly frizzy hair” (throwing an entire race under the bus in the process..must have straight European hair right?), plus her Mandela comment about South Africans celebrating their (trivial) wedding in the same level as they did when he was released from prison.

Ignorant/dim, she lacks basic common sense.

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 08/12/2022 14:47

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 08/12/2022 14:46

Except Diana complained bitterly about the lack of support and preparation she got and how she was left to flounder with protocol.

The scene in The Crown where she messes up the order of precedence is based on an anecdote from Diana as an example of how ill prepared and unsupported she was.

I wonder if everyone complaining about how MM complains would be feeling same about Dianna then, I guess not

Doubtmyself · 08/12/2022 14:47

healthadvice123 · 08/12/2022 14:40

@Justasec321 harrassment ?
They tagged me also?
I can have an opinion and the poster is more than capable of answering
Tarring anyone who disagrees as racist is not right in my opinion and doesn't help combat racism , which is what we all want

Whose tarring anyone who diagrees as racist @healthadvice123 ?? Let me have a go at them ! The bastards, thats so small minded!

britsabroad · 08/12/2022 14:47

I don't think it was necessary for Megan to say that, she's just making a mountain out of a mole hill. They had dinner together, Kate and William got dressed up, Megan didn't - then tries to turn it against them. Such a non story. She is such a drama queen. So what Kate is not a hugger. Nothing wrong with that. I don't tend to hug every Tom, Dick and Harry I meet. The whole documentary lacks substance, just tit for tat. Poor taste.
I personally would make a bit more effort if meeting my sister/brother in law for the first time and at least put on some bloody socks. I don't know why she's making a fuss over it, it's not as if Kate or William did otherwise she would have whinged about that too.
As a person of colour who grew up in the UK, I don't share Megan's views on the race related problems she thinks exist in the UK, I think they're mainly inside her head. Let's hope this is the last we hear of them. They're completely tone deaf, self obsessed, dull, uninspiring, entitled hypocrites. Hopefully the 100million they gained from selling their privacy is enough to shut them up for a while.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 08/12/2022 14:47

The footage of Kate and William dressed for a very formal event accompanying Meghans voice over of that little anecdote was a nice touch

Is that true? Then of course it was a dig at W and K.

Samcro · 08/12/2022 14:48

healthadvice123 · 08/12/2022 14:36

@Samcro Kate can't just speak though she has to follow the never explain rule , unless Charles changes that etc
The crying thing was the papers , chances are both of them

thats her choice.

sunnyminds76 · 08/12/2022 14:48

beAsensible1 · 08/12/2022 14:43

when they popped by to her house? why would you think that unless told? Ive met a king in jeans a leather jacket!

it's not at a formal event its at the house!

I wouldn't research i'd expect my partner to tell me if i needed to, if he didnt i'd assume it was fine.

You're talking about 'normal' people and lives. We all know that the RF is different. Not sure 'popping by' is quite the same in RF circles. And she's a clever, bright thing so it's just doesn't ring true that she would do a bit or research.

But maybe the same as 'oh I didn't know who Prince Harry was when I first met him'. I mean, come on. You're clearly a fan! ;)

Kanaloa · 08/12/2022 14:49

*I didn't realise that is really jarring for a lot of Brits.

Jarring is a bit of an extreme word to use and it's clear she doesn't like Brits. What's ridiculous is that with this statement she is actually being racist herself as she is most likely referring to white English people but says all Brits are like that.*

She hasn’t said all Brits are like that at all you dumpling. She’s said ‘it would be jarring for a lot of Brits.’ Why would you quote her directly then lie about what she’s said in the same post?? Make it hard work to point out that you’re wrong.

happylove890 · 08/12/2022 14:49

i'm not a hugger either and certainly not with someone i've just met!

hamstersarse · 08/12/2022 14:50

The only thing I have learned about this whole thing is that MM is some sort of punching bag for people's frustrations.

She is literally a harmless quite bland person, who is incredibly beautiful.

I find her a bit cringe, but seriously, what on earth are people seeing that is so unusual in her? She is like many people I have met in my time - probably wears the pants in her marriage - but so do about 50% of the women I know. Like, so actual what?

sunnyminds76 · 08/12/2022 14:50

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 08/12/2022 14:47

I wonder if everyone complaining about how MM complains would be feeling same about Dianna then, I guess not

It's just not the same! Diana went into it when press/media was starting to really make inroads and be everywhere (and no access to the internet where you can find out almost anything and connect to almost anyone). That didn't really happen before her but both Meghan and Harry knew this and should know not to make the same mistake.

If history was different and Diana followed Meghan, then of course I'd say exactly the same.

MissFancyDay · 08/12/2022 14:51

That comment is just mean. it's obviously a dig at Kate.

Poor Kate, she looks so uncomfortable an unhappy now, when Meghan and Harry are around.

GimmeBiscuits · 08/12/2022 14:51

FallingsHowIFeel · 08/12/2022 10:06

What’s wrong with meeting your partners family barefoot and in jeans?

I don't know what's supposed to be wrong here.
I'm British (English) and would do this. I'm a hugger too- with consent from the hugee.

OriginalOrchid · 08/12/2022 14:51

Kanaloa · 08/12/2022 14:49

*I didn't realise that is really jarring for a lot of Brits.

Jarring is a bit of an extreme word to use and it's clear she doesn't like Brits. What's ridiculous is that with this statement she is actually being racist herself as she is most likely referring to white English people but says all Brits are like that.*

She hasn’t said all Brits are like that at all you dumpling. She’s said ‘it would be jarring for a lot of Brits.’ Why would you quote her directly then lie about what she’s said in the same post?? Make it hard work to point out that you’re wrong.

*but says that all brits are like that = but says a lot of Brits are like that.

Better?

Must proof read my MN posts in the future, of course she is generalising, one of the things that racists love to do, she is a huge hypocrite, but that can't be helped. She and harry will just have to be managed.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 08/12/2022 14:53

She hasn’t said all Brits are like that at all you dumpling. She’s said ‘it would be jarring for a lot of Brits.

Why mention Brits at all? We're not some amorphous mass. Some like hugging all the time, some only hug those they know and like and some don't like hugging at all.

Kanaloa · 08/12/2022 14:53

OriginalOrchid · 08/12/2022 14:51

*but says that all brits are like that = but says a lot of Brits are like that.

Better?

Must proof read my MN posts in the future, of course she is generalising, one of the things that racists love to do, she is a huge hypocrite, but that can't be helped. She and harry will just have to be managed.

More accurate, yeah. Not necessarily better, because that plus your weirdly vague statement about how they’ll have to be ‘managed’ still makes me think you’re a bit of a nut bar.

Doubtmyself · 08/12/2022 14:53

RLScott · 08/12/2022 14:33

Don't misunderstand me. Of course there is racism everywhere (we seen it only last week from that “lady” Hussy bigot who asked the black woman “where are your people from”). That’s not my point. The point is Harry is now with someone who grew up in a race based country where everything is about race (he hadn’t given it much thought, until he “educated” her about it).

Three nations banned interracial marriage: America (who created the concept), Nazi Germany (implemented US laws in the Nuremberg race laws), and Apartheid South Africa. California (home of the couple in question) it only became legal post WWII.

All countries have racism issues (including my own, Ireland), but for America to stop being racist, it would need to stop being America. It’s in all it’s documents, it’s anthem, it’s government buildings: White House, built by slaves, US Capitol, built by slaves. America is a whole other beast when it comes to racism, and unfortunately as a by product of that everything is about race.

That's my point, we have a country based on class AND race. Its far more naunced, but remember the UK started trading slaves in the 1500's, America was created in 1776.

In 2015 , according to the Treasury, British taxpayers finished 'paying off' the debt which the British government incurred in order to compensate British slave owners in 1835 because of the abolition of slavery

My parents are from the West Indies, a former British colony claimed in the 1600's.

I think its safe to say race is engrained in the UK as much as America, there was never any need for the laws against interracial marriage etc, because America had its slaves at home, the UK and Europe had it all hidden away in the colonies, that's all.

beAsensible1 · 08/12/2022 14:54

sunnyminds76 · 08/12/2022 14:48

You're talking about 'normal' people and lives. We all know that the RF is different. Not sure 'popping by' is quite the same in RF circles. And she's a clever, bright thing so it's just doesn't ring true that she would do a bit or research.

But maybe the same as 'oh I didn't know who Prince Harry was when I first met him'. I mean, come on. You're clearly a fan! ;)

i dunno, when my DP told me he had looked at my instagram after our first date i was super offended 😅

he was surprised that i never did, still haven't i just like to know people and learn from them.
How would you find out from research how to behave with the royals in private? the only way you'd learn would be from then telling you no?

As i said upthread the only reason i knew to curtsy in private is because i was told, i would just said hello and tried to shake hands otherwise.

Any other small royals i'd known, i'd always hugged in private. Only at formal events would curtsy.

healthadvice123 · 08/12/2022 14:55

@Doubtmyself no you posted this

Hatred for Meghan is a bit like Brexit.

Not everyone who wanted Brexit was racist, many didn't have a racist bone in their bodies, BUT all racists wanted Brexit

That is what I initially replied to , that implies that people who voted remain are not racist , which is simply not true
And how I read that is your implying that most people who dislike meghan are racist
Or did you not mean that and I have misunderstood ?

AfterEightMintyCedric · 08/12/2022 14:56

I can't stand MM but tbh if it was just an informal first brief meeting with future brother in law and wife I can understand why she was expecting a less formal approach.

Of course I don't suppose we'll hear the context...

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