Does Harry dislike his family?

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Just with the Oprah interview, this new Netflix thing and then his book that is coming out soon.

Anyone would think he dislikes his own family. What has actually happened for him to turn on them?

@MonsoonMadness - I agree & I do think he has gone over the top with this

Excellent post, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head.

The same reason why the lack of response from the palace is hurting him so much.

So much of the hatred towards M&H is fuelled by women who haven't managed to get a man (never mind a member of the RF) to value them and their relationship to the exclusion of all others; up to and including his family of birth.

Honestly, the incandescent rage and incredulity is culpable and very, very telling.

What a bizarre post. Worshipping/being worshipped does not a healthy relationship make.

Worshipped?

Whatever are you on about?

What are you are on about? Read your post again. You say the hatred towards M&H is fuelled by women who haven’t “managed to get a man” to value them “to the point exclusion of all others including their family of birth”.

Firstly, you’ve outed yourself as a vile misogynist. It’s just a woman’s thing, apparently and we all want a man!

Secondly, valuing someone to the point of exclusion of all others can be called something else if the term worshipping offends you, but it’s unhealthy and certainly not desirable.

I said that the vitriol towards Megan is fuelled by women who are envious of the extent to which her husband loves and prioritises her.

Call me what you like. I said what I said.

I don't hate Meghan at all. Meghan just does Meghan.
I hate what both of them are doing just lobbing pot shots at the RF knowing they won't respond. And yes, I'm beginning to despise Harry for what he's doing because he knows the damage he's inflicting and doesn't care.

I'd never want my husband to lose his family over me. And if my husband was the sort of person that could just drop his family and vindictively hurt them using me as the reason, I'd be horrified. Plus, I'd be worried how easy he'd found it to turn on them because I'd wonder just how easily and vindictively he'd turn on me if I stopped pleasing him or he thought I'd done something that pissed him off.

No one should love or be loved to the exclusion of all others. It's controlling and unnatural, especially when you've come from a family you've always declared you've been loved by.

@MarshaMelrose - I can see your point - I think M could encourage H to reconcile with his family - just from the outside she appears to prefer the money he and she can earn from telling stories about the RF. & they have both said things which are a bit dodgy as regards objective truth.

I suspect it is a bit 6 and 2 3s between the both of them - but I don't know.

The constant asking for apologies for stuff they won't specify ( to me ) is becoming wearing. I really think they should just get on with their own projects . & 30 parcels and planting some plants doesn't cut it for me when they have deliberately put their charity finances in a state where it is hard to see the actual financials.

& I do read these things because using the RF to make $$$$$$$$$$$$ is of interest . I am not saying the RF is perfect but taking the piss out of them on various unproven things to make money to live a lifestyle you aspire to or think you are entitled to isn't perfect either

Ah well - luckily I do not have to live my life in public

I don't think many people would see it that way.
I think most people would see that having a very high profile makes it embarrassing when things go wrong in your marriage - not necessarily personally - but when your partner says that they can't cope with your job or role. I think anyone very famous, such as the US President or the head of a high profile church, would do a lot to avoid looking stupid, or to endure a distraction from their cherished work and role. They would want to know what they needed to do to make things right and acceptable for their miserable or disgruntled spouse.

From what I read on relationship threads on MN, a lot of posters have husbands who are lovely and adore them. It isn't a rarity. I wouldn't assume that people are unhappy.

The difference I think is that, I don't think many spouses would push things as far as saying: "Come out of the role you've been brought up to. Say you won't go along with this plan". There is always a way of gaining privacy within the royal family, or as the wife of an important politician. You just don't do things to be seen. Then the press won't picture you. It's perfectly allowable not to do public duties.

Meghan is fairly unique in being so audacious. Most people on marrying into the Royal Family would just go along with the harmless forms, such as being photographed outside the hospital with your new baby, and would look for a kind of compromise, privately clawing back choices. She pushes things to the max and always publicly. Given the publicity which has always ensued, the publicity seems to be an intrinsic part of why she elects to do things.

It is easy to imagine that Harry was shocked and confused when Meghan wanted this half in/ half out Royal role and to go abroad. Being a little scared of the fall- out and the complete unknown is not quite the same as valuing and adoring your partner. Having to make a rapid decision, he chose the lesser of two evils in turning his back on his role and the firm. To be divorced or separated after a big multimillion pound wedding, and with the commemorative plate hardly off the shelves, would have been a painful and, perhaps, humiliating sadness. He would have feared this outcome. I don't think it was a happy time or a choice very freely given.

Well that’s cool that you own it because you tell it like it is sister! Huzzah for the truth teller!

Surely, surely you don’t imagine that getting married is the pinnacle of a woman’s life? This represents ‘achievement’ to you?

Lift your fucking bar. How embarrassing.

Employ all the hyperbole you like.

We both know I never said it was the pinnacle of anything.

My point stands that many of her detractors would love it if somebody adored them as much as her husband clearly adores her.

There's a lot of the 'who does she think she is?' bandied about and it's precisely because she categorically did not set her bar too low.

My point stands that many of her detractors would love it if somebody adored them as much as her husband clearly adores her.

I wouldn't like it, my DH knows my faults and definitely doesn't put me on a pedestal. If he thought I was absolutely perfect I'd constantly worry about doing some tiny thing that might disillusion him. And the idea of splitting up in public after all the declarations of devotion would be mortifying (I'd apply that to anyone famous, not just M and H).

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I wouldn't like it, my DH knows my faults and definitely doesn't put me on a pedestal. If he thought I was absolutely perfect I'd constantly worry about doing some tiny thing that might disillusion him. And the idea of splitting up in public after all the declarations of devotion would be mortifying (I'd apply that to anyone famous, not just M and H).

Absolutely this. It would be so exhausting to attempt perfection. And ultimately impossible

Can't really agree with this. If he'd taken off to live a realtively quiet life out of the spotlight, raising their children, perhaps she could get on with her acting career, and people were spitting poison at them, I would agree with you. Demanding an apology for your wife when you're both 40 and have small children you could be concentrating your efforts on is just strange.

The thing is, they didn't need to stay out of the spotlight if they didn't want to, they could have left the UK and started public careers that still could have given them the peaceful life they wanted and would have put distance between them and the UK tabloids.

They didn't need to trash Harry's family, the monarchy nor the British people as a career choice. They have some hugely wealthy and very well connected people in their corner, they had an easy route, through those friends/contacts, to develop a worthwhile career without ever needing to expose themselves the way they are now doing.

Well said.

Why do you presume that he is blind to her faults?

Loving/adoring and prioritising your spouse doesn't necessitate that you deny their shortcomings. My DH is well aware of mine, ribs me about them on occasion and adores me despite them.

Why do you presume that he is blind to her faults?

Well doesn't he say She’s perfect, she’s perfect, she’s perfect in 'Spare'? As well as all the seal stuff. My DH has never described me like that (thank god).

Probably an unpopular opinion. I do not think Meghan married him for love. I also think he has a substance abuse problem.

Meghan forgets her lipgloss and asks to use Kate's. According to Harry, that's an American thing. Is it? Certainly plenty of Americans on here have said they wouldn't do that. There's only one person who could have told him it was an American thing - American Meghan. Harry automatically doesn't question it. Instead he criticises Kate because she was kind enough to lend it but clearly was uncomfortable.
So who does he think is wrong in that scenario - his wife? No.
When he knows there have been complaints from the staff, and William is speaking to him because there have been complaints and Kate has spoken to Meghan over how she speaks to the staff, does Harry think to himself, hmm there might be a problem? No, he dismisses it as something that everyone else is making.

So it seems to me he is either blind to or turning a blind eye to her faults. Because he's not reticent in criticising faults in other family members.

He’s invested everything in her. He can’t afford to start questioning her or the whole thing might start to unravel. It’s like someone who has extremist views or been brainwashed by a cult. It’s rigid black and white thinking.

According to Harry - any little shortcoming or quirk of Meghan's gets attributed to her being mixed race or American, because she is faultless and not stepped a foot wrong.
Ant judgement sets received has been unfair and brought upon her by the nasty press.

He wants everyone to see her the way he does, and defend her reputation as ferociously as he does.

As the queen said she worried he 'loved her too much' and I think this is what she meant.

I read it as everyone getting their knickers in a twist that a member of the RF is treating this jumped up American, mixed race actress as some kind of 'prize'

Harry obviously feels as if he has won the lottery (if money was at all a consideration) by marrying Megan. It appears to really bother a fair proportion of people.