Page 11 | Does Harry dislike his family?

asblindasabat · 2022-12-05T18:48:39+00:00

Just with the Oprah interview, this new Netflix thing and then his book that is coming out soon. Anyone would think he dislikes his own family. What has actually happened for him to turn on them?

Blip · 06/12/2022 22:53

Meghan seems to have ostracised 99% of her family with Doria just hanging on by a thread...Harry seems to have gone the full 100%. My view is that MM sees Harry's family as a threat to her relationship with Harry.

AuroraCake · 06/12/2022 23:06

Blip · 06/12/2022 22:53

Meghan seems to have ostracised 99% of her family with Doria just hanging on by a thread...Harry seems to have gone the full 100%. My view is that MM sees Harry's family as a threat to her relationship with Harry.

He has been friends with Eugenie. I imagine this malarkey will be enough to see her exit stage left on that. She doesn’t strike me as an idiot…and she still has her own relationship with the wider family to consider. Apparently she is also mega close to Zara.

Persimmo · 06/12/2022 23:14

Eugenie and the rest of them know that if Meghan kicks him to the kerb as she has done with husbands, siblings, parents, other relatives and friends in the past… that he needs someone in “the firm” who has known him since he was a toddler, who can reassure him they will have him back. If the shit hits the fan and they split, the royals as a family (lower case) will have him back in an instant. Straight back to a palace, a private income, hugs, his old army buddies and equerries that sneaked him into their pubs in Sands End. His Aunts, his old nanny in Wales. Whatever he does, if there is a divorce, he has open arms, cousins, wise counsel and hugs plus an open pocket book for lawyers.

She and Doria can be grateful they have each other and half his money.

MandUs · 06/12/2022 23:15

H&M's relationship reminds me so much of a good friend I used to have. Down to his childhood trauma and the personality transplant he seemed to have once he was in this particular relationship and the breaking of contact with family and friends. In my friend's instance, it all culminated in him taking his life.

AuroraCake · 06/12/2022 23:26

MandUs · 06/12/2022 23:15

H&M's relationship reminds me so much of a good friend I used to have. Down to his childhood trauma and the personality transplant he seemed to have once he was in this particular relationship and the breaking of contact with family and friends. In my friend's instance, it all culminated in him taking his life.

I m so so sorry to hear that. That is the thing I always think about. Just don’t let this end badly but to me it all is bad. It’s past the pale really.

AuroraCake · 06/12/2022 23:28

Persimmo · 06/12/2022 23:14

Eugenie and the rest of them know that if Meghan kicks him to the kerb as she has done with husbands, siblings, parents, other relatives and friends in the past… that he needs someone in “the firm” who has known him since he was a toddler, who can reassure him they will have him back. If the shit hits the fan and they split, the royals as a family (lower case) will have him back in an instant. Straight back to a palace, a private income, hugs, his old army buddies and equerries that sneaked him into their pubs in Sands End. His Aunts, his old nanny in Wales. Whatever he does, if there is a divorce, he has open arms, cousins, wise counsel and hugs plus an open pocket book for lawyers.

She and Doria can be grateful they have each other and half his money.

The former Queen of Holland’s niece, so current king’s cousin, was married to a man. Together they made all kinds of unsavoury accusations about the family. They responses with a vague it isn’t anything we recognise. They of course sidelined them. Ended up separating and she had a rapprochement with family. Apparently it was a very coercive control relationship. Makes you think.

Mummyoflittledragon · 07/12/2022 04:05

Persimmo · 06/12/2022 23:14

Eugenie and the rest of them know that if Meghan kicks him to the kerb as she has done with husbands, siblings, parents, other relatives and friends in the past… that he needs someone in “the firm” who has known him since he was a toddler, who can reassure him they will have him back. If the shit hits the fan and they split, the royals as a family (lower case) will have him back in an instant. Straight back to a palace, a private income, hugs, his old army buddies and equerries that sneaked him into their pubs in Sands End. His Aunts, his old nanny in Wales. Whatever he does, if there is a divorce, he has open arms, cousins, wise counsel and hugs plus an open pocket book for lawyers.

She and Doria can be grateful they have each other and half his money.

That is unconditional love and I think very true. 😪

Idk if it will still hold water after KC passes. I hope so and think actually it would be Katherine, who’d likely help facilitate that. She is very tough and has a lot of emotional intelligence.

I know it has been said that it is Harry, who has a lot of emotional intelligence. To a certain extent that is true, he connects so well with people. However, he lacks self reflection and the ability to see himself as others do, which is large part of EI.

I saw this former security officer video talking about Prince Andrew. Was it posted on this / another thread?. . This is how self indulged people, who have never heard the word no act. PA according to the former security officer used his power to satisfy sleazy behaviour. Others will use it for different purposes.

It has been said Meghan was indulged as a child and it sounds as if Harry never heard the word no. I wonder if this is they also expected to act as if the rules didn’t apply. PH must be aware of PA shenanigan and those of his mother, smuggling in men in the boot of cars, were much publicised.

PrincessConstance · 09/12/2022 12:48

miri1985 · 05/12/2022 19:34

When people in the Royal Family talk about a "normal life", they don't mean what we would understand as a normal life, they think of their friends who are massively wealthy but don't have the scrutiny of being in the Royal Family and thats what they understand as normal life. I think Harry thinks he wants what he perceives to be a normal life. Does anyone else remember after there were reports of Harry smoking pot and he was taken by Charles to visit a drug rehab on camera, I was a teenager too remember being so glad I was not a royal. The scrutiny that comes from being in that family must be horrible.

Harry wants the trappings of monarchy, privilege, money and adoration without the scrutiny. If you look at the life hes crafted for himself in California its quite similar to the life of a minor royal.

I think he thinks hes the most hard done for person ever and resents that he thinks they didn't stand up for him when generally they realise that refuting a story will add credence to other stories like any story about Harry and Meghan that they don't sue about now, I believe whereas I don't for Will and Kate.

What's normal about smoking pot?
It's funny how posters rattle on about the Royals not being normal or fucked up, yet post examples of behavior that is commonly acknowledged as being a one-way ticket to loser Ville.
Harry is following in the footsteps of Edward the viii, another who deeply regretted the rift he caused by being a maverick. He's cringeworthy at best.
Dp and I were talking about, what if his brother and wife mocked the family, what would happen, he replied there'd be hell to pay. William must be secretly setting, and Charles, well he's a wet puppet anyway.
They are whether they like it or not, embarrassing themselves.

PrincessConstance · 09/12/2022 12:49

Seething not setting.

MarshaMelrose · 09/12/2022 13:31

I think Harry loves his family but like all overgrown teenagers, nothing's his fault, it's all someone else's.

LondonWolf · 09/12/2022 13:34

W was on the cusp of adulthood.

He'd just turned 15!

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 09/12/2022 13:40

I'm starting to think that he loves his family but he just isn't that intelligent. It's like when he's doing something in the US he just thinks he's earning a living (ha!) and then when he comes back to the UK he can't quite understand what he's done wrong or how he's offended someone.

diddl · 09/12/2022 14:25

For me I don't see how you can love your family if you can trash it /allow it to be trashed in the way that Harry is doing.

Perhaps he thinks that he's griping about the traditions/protocol & not the individuals so what's the problem?

I think it's hard to take when for so many years he has lived this life & seemed happy with it.

I guess he fooled many of us & he wasn't happy at all.

Although when he had to (?) leave the army, why opt for a life of Royal Duties?

Blip · 10/12/2022 10:42

I think being married to Meghan is probably contingent on rejecting your family.

BadgerB · 10/12/2022 15:41

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · Yesterday 13:40
I'm starting to think that he loves his family but he just isn't that intelligent.

I'm currently reading a book about the Duke of Windsor - and am reminded so often of Harry.
Intellectual non-starter, inflated sense of his own importance; can't understand why his family don't see how wonderful his (strong-minded, American) wife is

RosettaStormer · 12/12/2022 22:12

ajandjjmum · 05/12/2022 19:11

Harry used to really love his family, especially his brother, SIL and their children. Something changed, and now he hates them all.

It’s very strange isn’t it.

RosettaStormer · 12/12/2022 22:16

Blip · 06/12/2022 22:53

Meghan seems to have ostracised 99% of her family with Doria just hanging on by a thread...Harry seems to have gone the full 100%. My view is that MM sees Harry's family as a threat to her relationship with Harry.

I agree

RosettaStormer · 12/12/2022 22:25

Colcat · 06/12/2022 13:19

My friend loved his family until he married a narcissist. Now he's pretty much estranged from all of them. It's heartbreaking. I see parallels.

This is my brother in laws story too. He married a woman who isolated him from his family and friends. She dominates every aspect of their lives. He does what she expects in every situation. It’s creepy. I’m pretty good at sussing people out generally but she is completely Sphinx like. No idea what is going on in her head but she has total control. She turned him against his family because she didn’t think they were sufficiently respectful towards her. She insisted he have a vasectomy because she didn’t want children. The parallels are eerily similar.
She isn’t British and would make disparaging comments about the UK.
They have now moved to her country where they live in a house without any personal items. Just a beige box which is always immaculately clean and tidy. They never have visitors. She’s like an alien.

HardRock · 13/12/2022 01:47

StormzyinaTCup · 05/12/2022 19:20

Your post reads as if PH was an only child.

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Your post reads as if PH is on an equal footing to his only other singling, his older brother who is heir to the throne.

Even Diana was concerned that PH was being referred to by the firm as ‘the spare’. What an awful way to be treated. Not a surprise that’s the title of his book. He’s taking ownership of the label “spare”.

HardRock · 13/12/2022 01:47

*sibling

HardRock · 13/12/2022 01:52

RosettaStormer · 12/12/2022 22:25

This is my brother in laws story too. He married a woman who isolated him from his family and friends. She dominates every aspect of their lives. He does what she expects in every situation. It’s creepy. I’m pretty good at sussing people out generally but she is completely Sphinx like. No idea what is going on in her head but she has total control. She turned him against his family because she didn’t think they were sufficiently respectful towards her. She insisted he have a vasectomy because she didn’t want children. The parallels are eerily similar.
She isn’t British and would make disparaging comments about the UK.
They have now moved to her country where they live in a house without any personal items. Just a beige box which is always immaculately clean and tidy. They never have visitors. She’s like an alien.

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I’m pretty good at sussing people out generally but she is completely Sphinx like.

Maybe she sussed you out first and became Sphinx like in response?

They never have visitors.

And you know this for certainty because you’ve bugged the place?

She’s like an alien.

What on god’s good earth does this even mean?!

MarshaMelrose · 13/12/2022 04:42

Interestingly, the term "the heir and the spare" was coined by an American, one of the Vanderbilts, about her own children.

StormzyinaTCup · 13/12/2022 04:49

HardRock · 13/12/2022 01:47

Your post reads as if PH is on an equal footing to his only other singling, his older brother who is heir to the throne.

Even Diana was concerned that PH was being referred to by the firm as ‘the spare’. What an awful way to be treated. Not a surprise that’s the title of his book. He’s taking ownership of the label “spare”.

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So from my very short post you have managed to 'read' all that into it - blimey!

HardRock · 13/12/2022 10:28

StormzyinaTCup · 13/12/2022 04:49

So from my very short post you have managed to 'read' all that into it - blimey!

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It’s called reading between the lines… it’s a skill 😉

StartupRepair · 13/12/2022 11:17

I think Harry never recovered from or processed the trauma of his childhood. I suspect his family and staff have been quietly managing his impulsiveness and cleaning up his messes for years. Now he has walked away from that safety net and encouraged by Meghan is burning every bridge in sight. Trashing the purpose of the Commonwealth which was so dear the the Queen is just one example among so many. I hope he can work out a way to be happy.