Page 12 | Does Harry dislike his family?

asblindasabat · 2022-12-05T18:48:39+00:00

Just with the Oprah interview, this new Netflix thing and then his book that is coming out soon. Anyone would think he dislikes his own family. What has actually happened for him to turn on them?

the80sweregreat · 13/12/2022 11:27

I've only seen episode one so far , but the clip for the next three has Meghan using the term ' thrown to the wolves ' or something similar and it's what people have said happened to his mum. I feel she is just exploiting her legacy and to win over the American public, who adored his mum ( in the main)
They are hinting that people have covered for William solely because he is the future King , but lots of people also covered up things about Harry ( or minimized it ) too on the past.
Despite saying I wouldn't ( on many occasions ) I will watch this , if only to see clips of his mum , who I did have a lot of time for in the past
I've forgotten so much about those times

StormzyinaTCup · 13/12/2022 17:32

It’s called reading between the lines… it’s a skill 😉

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or just plain old making something up! 😉

HardRock · 13/12/2022 17:39

StormzyinaTCup · 13/12/2022 17:32

It’s called reading between the lines… it’s a skill 😉

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or just plain old making something up! 😉

Reading between the lines. Subtext maybe even you weren’t aware of yourself.

Bottom line is that Harry was the only spare child. So that’s the position he’s speaking from.

StormzyinaTCup · 13/12/2022 17:50

HardRock · 13/12/2022 17:39

Reading between the lines. Subtext maybe even you weren’t aware of yourself.

Bottom line is that Harry was the only spare child. So that’s the position he’s speaking from.

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No, bottom line is he was not the only child at the funeral of his mum, he does have a brother (although people choose to forget that or make excuses as to why William wasn't/hasn't suffered as much as Harry, which is just bollocks frankly). No idea why 'reading between the lines' you got I was referring to 'he is a spare child' from.

As I say, either you made it up or you need to fine tune your 'reading between the lines' skill.

Roussette · 13/12/2022 18:17

Meghan seems to have ostracised 99% of her family with Doria just hanging on by a thread

Now you're making stuff up. Doria isn't 'hanging by a thread'. She spoke warmly and beautifully in the netflix series. I doubt she would've done that if she was 'hanging by a thread'!!

cyrila · 13/12/2022 18:19

I'm sick to death of hearing about Harry's childhood trauma. He's had 25 years to have had access to the any counselling he wants. Money isn't an issue. He had a large family. Contrast this to my friend who lost her mum when she was 14. She had 2 younger brothers and basically had to become their mum while grieving herself. Yes, it was tragic. But all over the world there are children losing their parents who also have it tough.

And I'm appalled by the way he is using her memory and comparing Meghan to her.

ajandjjmum · 13/12/2022 18:27

I bet Meghan wrote her script!

Rockybooboo · 13/12/2022 18:40

I like them. They are flawed like all humans. However i think Charles and Andrew are much worse with their connections to peodophiles. I'm really suspicious how Saville managed to get away with what he did during his lifetime. John Lydon tried to get his crimes out in the open but the establishment stopped him.

PicturesOfDogs · 13/12/2022 19:14

cyrila · 13/12/2022 18:19

I'm sick to death of hearing about Harry's childhood trauma. He's had 25 years to have had access to the any counselling he wants. Money isn't an issue. He had a large family. Contrast this to my friend who lost her mum when she was 14. She had 2 younger brothers and basically had to become their mum while grieving herself. Yes, it was tragic. But all over the world there are children losing their parents who also have it tough.

And I'm appalled by the way he is using her memory and comparing Meghan to her.

I do think he’s conflating them in his head. He’s always comparing her to his mum

Its like he feels like if he can ‘save’ her in a way it will be like saving his mum.

Rockybooboo · 13/12/2022 19:24

cyrila · 13/12/2022 18:19

I'm sick to death of hearing about Harry's childhood trauma. He's had 25 years to have had access to the any counselling he wants. Money isn't an issue. He had a large family. Contrast this to my friend who lost her mum when she was 14. She had 2 younger brothers and basically had to become their mum while grieving herself. Yes, it was tragic. But all over the world there are children losing their parents who also have it tough.

And I'm appalled by the way he is using her memory and comparing Meghan to her.

People handle grief differently and if hearing about his childhood drama, you can choose to ignore it.

StormzyinaTCup · 13/12/2022 19:24

I do think he’s conflating them in his head. He’s always comparing her to his mum
Its like he feels like if he can ‘save’ her in a way it will be like saving his mum.

Something I think she possibly plays to her advantage - maybe it works/will continue to work for them or, ironically, it could end up being a case of 'three people in our marriage'. Who knows but if you are into behaviour and relationship dynamics then it's very interesting to watch.

RosettaStormer · 13/12/2022 20:51

cyrila · 13/12/2022 18:19

I'm sick to death of hearing about Harry's childhood trauma. He's had 25 years to have had access to the any counselling he wants. Money isn't an issue. He had a large family. Contrast this to my friend who lost her mum when she was 14. She had 2 younger brothers and basically had to become their mum while grieving herself. Yes, it was tragic. But all over the world there are children losing their parents who also have it tough.

And I'm appalled by the way he is using her memory and comparing Meghan to her.

And airbrushing William out of the picture too.

Diverseopinions · 14/12/2022 08:11

Do Prince William and his little fully go on those kind of skiing trips where there are members of the public in white close proximity around you and the press can get close up?

Seeing the Harry and Meghan Netflix programme and the footage of William and Harry and their mum and with Little Eugenie and Beatrice, I was thinking,:Did that have to happen?'. Could they have had some skiing more privately?

The Royal Family have large private estates for their use. I'm not aware of Catherine being photographed walking in the grounds of Anmer Hall, or Prince Charles at his house on the Balmoral Estate. Is it, and was it ever, sensible to mix the kids in with the general high profile, albeit, no doubt, for those who can afford it, slopes? I'm not sure that I really think that Diana always had the best idea about being where the boys could be photographed.

Princess Margaret had the use of a private Carribbean island. There probably are some ski slopes which might even be privately owned or belonging to a club.

In retrospect, maybe Gordonstoun, more remote, would have been preferable to Eton for Harry and William. Harry would certainly have been able to run freely, in the wonderful Scottish countryside nearby and build friendships and skills, out of the public eyes. In the footage shot at Eton, in the Harry and Meghan docusie, the boys can open their bedroom windows and see the press photographers there. That wouldn't have happened at some schools in the deeper countryside. Harry could have enjoyed country living, a bit like he enjoyed it in Lesotho.

AreOttersJustWetCats · 14/12/2022 08:22

I'm not aware that private ski resorts exist. Are you suggesting that they should never do anything normal, ever?

Prince Charles certainly gets seen walking in the (publicly acessible) hills in the Balmoral/Braemar area.

AreOttersJustWetCats · 14/12/2022 08:23

And the press certainly would have rocked up at Gordounstoun. Pretty naive to think they wouldn't have.

Geths · 14/12/2022 10:46

AreOttersJustWetCats · 14/12/2022 08:23

And the press certainly would have rocked up at Gordounstoun. Pretty naive to think they wouldn't have.

The drive at Gordonstoun is miles long. They would have had to find his boarding house among many and they’re scattered all over a large campus. The Press would have been screwed if they’d got on to the campus in the first place.

it was probably more suitable a school academically for him than Eton but his mother had just died in a car crash and this way he could go and have tea with his granny every weekend.

Rockybooboo · 14/12/2022 10:59

Geths · 14/12/2022 10:46

The drive at Gordonstoun is miles long. They would have had to find his boarding house among many and they’re scattered all over a large campus. The Press would have been screwed if they’d got on to the campus in the first place.

it was probably more suitable a school academically for him than Eton but his mother had just died in a car crash and this way he could go and have tea with his granny every weekend.

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Prince Charles hated Gordonstoun

ajandjjmum · 14/12/2022 12:05

Peter and Zara Phillips loved Gordonstoun. I would have thought it would have been a far better school for Harry - although can you imagine the story now. My brother was kept in London in the heart of the family, but they shipped me up tot he wilds of Scotland!

Justasec321 · 14/12/2022 13:29

ajandjjmum · 05/12/2022 19:11

Harry used to really love his family, especially his brother, SIL and their children. Something changed, and now he hates them all.

I think he and his brother had a trauma bond.

Add to that the destiny element of the future King and you have room for someone vunerable to be tossed around.

Usually when people have children they have epiphanies about their family and their role within the family.

I certainly had a recalibration when I had my children as did most of the people I know,

Justasec321 · 14/12/2022 13:40

user1477391263 · 06/12/2022 00:13

To stay in he would have had to pass exams which was unlikely to happen.

True.

I always marvel at the RF choosing a dimwit like Diana (a sweet soul who failed every academic subject she ever studied) as their ideal brood mare for the Windsor dynasty.

I get that the thinking was "Let's get a sweet but dim woman in so that she can be easily ordered around and told what to do" (ha, that didn't work out very well, did it?).

But did it not occur to anyone that a mum who is utterly lacking in academic smarts may well produce a child with the same traits?

If I was going to select the ideal brood mare to carry on my bloodline, I'd pick someone reasonably intelligent (not to mention, someone who is emotionally stable and comes from a bombproof family background - again, what on earth was Mountbatten thinking when he picked out Diana?).

W come on to a site that is mainly for mothers and refer to one as a "brood mare?

You reveal a lot about yourself in that choice.

ajandjjmum · 14/12/2022 13:51

@Justasec321 I think you're right - their bond would go way beyond that of 'normal' brothers. That's what worries me for William. How many ill-advised comments or feelings did he share with Harry, 'knowing' their bond was so strong and unbreakable. He must wonder if there is any conversation that is still safe - especially if Harry has shared any of this stuff with Meghan. Thank God he's got Kate.

Justasec321 · 14/12/2022 14:20

ajandjjmum · 14/12/2022 13:51

@Justasec321 I think you're right - their bond would go way beyond that of 'normal' brothers. That's what worries me for William. How many ill-advised comments or feelings did he share with Harry, 'knowing' their bond was so strong and unbreakable. He must wonder if there is any conversation that is still safe - especially if Harry has shared any of this stuff with Meghan. Thank God he's got Kate.

Good indeed that he has found a life partner that he can function well with.

I think Harry has also found that partner.

When the PoW was dating him the press were utterly nasty about her, and about her family. That was then moved to MM with the addition of racisim. We have seen it before with Sophie, Diana, Sarah, and Camilla.

The people who rarely get caught in the cross fire are the current king and the future king. An occassional blip but not long on the front pages. And they actually OWN everything, their bloodline decides everything.

I reject that, and think that our king and future king should reject it too.

Hiding behind the women - really!

Rockybooboo · 14/12/2022 14:38

user1477391263 · 06/12/2022 00:13

To stay in he would have had to pass exams which was unlikely to happen.

True.

I always marvel at the RF choosing a dimwit like Diana (a sweet soul who failed every academic subject she ever studied) as their ideal brood mare for the Windsor dynasty.

I get that the thinking was "Let's get a sweet but dim woman in so that she can be easily ordered around and told what to do" (ha, that didn't work out very well, did it?).

But did it not occur to anyone that a mum who is utterly lacking in academic smarts may well produce a child with the same traits?

If I was going to select the ideal brood mare to carry on my bloodline, I'd pick someone reasonably intelligent (not to mention, someone who is emotionally stable and comes from a bombproof family background - again, what on earth was Mountbatten thinking when he picked out Diana?).

What a disgusting, cruel and misogynistic post.

Rockybooboo · 14/12/2022 14:40

Justasec321 · 14/12/2022 13:40

W come on to a site that is mainly for mothers and refer to one as a "brood mare?

You reveal a lot about yourself in that choice.

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I completely agree Justasec. I can't believe what I've just read.

Diverseopinions · 14/12/2022 16:16

AreOttersJustWetCats · 14/12/2022 08:22

I'm not aware that private ski resorts exist. Are you suggesting that they should never do anything normal, ever?

Prince Charles certainly gets seen walking in the (publicly acessible) hills in the Balmoral/Braemar area.

I don't think Balmoral/ Braemar area is quite as fashionable as a ski resort. I think the children attract photographers - but, actually, why haven't the Prince of Wales's children - George, Charlotte, Louis Bern photographed a lot at Anmer House and environs?

Maybe it was Diana herself who drew the interest of the press towards her - her magnetism for the hordes of avid fans, watching to see what new and sometimes daring and different thing she would do next.

Well I suppose Will and Catherine have got it about right in their management of their work - because they are not really hounded by the press or fans.

Nor is Kate's sister, Pippa. Her wonderful figure once promised her a devoted following and a star profile - in the aftermath of the Royal Wedding. That has dissipated and subdued to mild interest and the odd article. It has worked. I bet she is happy. Nor are the Middletons hounded. Keeping a low profile has been a success all round and not too much intrusive attention. No disgruntled former staff selling stories about Party Pieces, either.

I don't know about private ski slopes and hillsides on private land. I bet there are some.

Where do the European Royals take their skiing fix? Actually, why are they not hounded?

Seems like keeping it on the low and private keeps the personal things private too.

Termly boarding school at somewhere traditional, like Eton, is not what most people would call normal everyday life. Weekly boarding, maybe more so. The Royals are already making somewhat rarified choices.