Does Harry dislike his family?

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Just with the Oprah interview, this new Netflix thing and then his book that is coming out soon.

Anyone would think he dislikes his own family. What has actually happened for him to turn on them?

It's well known that the Royal Family do deals with the press around what they can/can't publish, in exchange for ongoing cooperation, sharing of photos etc.. Diana lost that protection when she left the family, but kept up her public facing charitable work etc. Pippa is of little interest to the press because she doesn't do any kind of work in the public eye.

If Pippa had wanted to get noticed...she could have done. Before her own marriage, she could have been cited as an eligible bachelorette and relation of the Royals.

Pippa quite often has the odd paps on her walks in London but the pictures aren’t printed by British MSM usually - I have seen them taking pics of her in Battersea Park while she’s on her own with a pram and a dog. The pics sometimes end up on Instagram. Just because they don’t appear in the DM doesn’t mean she doesn’t have men following her with cameras.

I think the idea was to have the boys close so they could see the family at weekends. Easy to travel and close at hand. Charles hated Gordonstoun. He probably never wanted to set foot in it again.

Mountbatten was a strange man. He had odd ideas about sex and behaviour generally. I think the main criteria for him was that Diana was a virgin and came from a good family. Also young and docile so wouldn’t make any trouble. Or so he thought.

Mountbatten had died before Charles and Diana got together. He wanted Charles to marry a Mountbatten granddaughter.

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I always marvel at the RF choosing a dimwit like Diana (a sweet soul who failed every academic subject she ever studied) as their ideal brood mare for the Windsor dynasty.
Apparently Philip said "Thank God for someone who'll bring some "tall" genes into this family" Well, she did that...

IIRC the Royal Rota was started after Princess Diana’s death, so the awful ski footage with William, Harry, Beatrice and Eugenie in front of a whole wall of press photographers stopped after that. It’s one of the reasons that KM photographs her own children for press releases, and that there’s now only a couple of photographers present for the children’s first day of the new school year.

I’ve alluded to this in another thread, but the young Diana reminds me very much of Linda Radlett in Nancy Mitford’s novel The Pursuit of Love. The aristocratic young girls in these novels were sheltered and distinctly undereducated; far from knowing what they were getting into, it was considered best to keep them as ignorant as possible so that they wouldn’t question their lives. Fiction, but grounded in real experience.

I certainly had a recalibration when I had my children as did most of the people I know, I thought I was a much better parent than my parents at age 30. Now at 63 I realise I was totally wrong. RIP Mum and Dad

I think Harry thinks he is more enlightened than his family and that they need to be guided by him.

It's a superiority complex.

I wonder how he goes down with fellow Slebs in LA.
All that grandiose posturing and self absorption will be swallowed up with the egos there.

And though William and I have talked about it once or twice, and he has made it very clear to me that his kids are not my responsibility, I still feel a responsibility knowing that out of those three children, at least one will end up like me, the spare

I wonder how long ago these conversations took place ?

Yes, exactly this.

If by more enlightened you mean more human then yes.

And who could blame him?

Is this Mountbatten who regularly raped 7-8 year old boys and then 'discarded' of them?

Can't see why Harry would ever want to distance himself from such a family dynasty

I don't think for one second that Harry used the term that his family had 'got in to bed with the devil' wholly inadvisedly.

He knows exactly what he is doing and/or saying.

One of the comments that really stood out from Harry's interview was he thought William-Katie-Meghan and himself were going to be this awesome foursome.
When that didn't happen he took that as the ultimate rejection. What he doesn't understand is, William and Kate had different ideas. This goes on between brothers-sisters and in-laws in every family.
He must channel this disappointment in a better manner.

Royals still get photographed going skiing. William and Kate were in Courcheval in France last year and were snapped watching George in ski school. The Dutch royal family go to Lech in Austria. The Danish crown prince and his family go to Verbier in Switzerland. There's photos of all of them from most years.

I don't think there's really any such thing as a completely private ski resort in the alps if you want access to really good skiing.

I don't think he dislikes his family, it was clear in the interview I saw he holds them all very dearly, though is enraged understandably at the ways he and his wife have been mistreated and wilfully misrepresented. Add to this the security that Harry believes is a vital requirement since birth and the anger is further fuelled.
How this mess ever gets resolved is anyone's guess...

I realise how diplomatic was the Queen. She said Harry was much-loved as a family member, but ruled out his dabblings in official Royal duties, pick and mix.

I don't think it is right to have an official take on it all. Just ignore his comments, I'd say. The Coronation is constitutional, rather than private, so don't invite him. If he has compromised his own safety by breaching confidentiality in the military, he shouldn't really impact the rest of the family and those who will be working at the Coronation event.

He can do some private chatting with those cousins and relatives who he gets on with and they with him.

Family therapy is a good idea but I suspect there is usually one side that has more to fear than the other from direct honest dialogue. To begin with that might have been Charles and William but now I think it's switched to being H&M
Initially Harry had some points he wanted to make and they just. would. not. hear. him.

But one of the rules of a dysfunctional family is that no one individual can have a 'self' greater than the super self and nowhere would that be more true than the RF

Initially Harry had some points he wanted to make and they just. would. not. hear. him.

It's not always not hearing though-could be not agreeing!

Even though he has said what he wanted to-will it change anything-especially now he has left & is no longer dealing with the very things that he was making his points about.

Yes I think that’s the crux of it. He was longing to be brought into the fold when he met his own wife. He imagined them all doing things together and getting on like a house on fire. Because he thought M was absolutely marvellous, he thought everyone else would think so too. He treated her like a trophy. ‘Look what I got!’. I think he’s always felt inferior to W not just because W is the heir. He was looking and still is, for approval. Both from his father and brother. When W and K didn’t like Meghan he just couldn’t accept it. He decided it must be racism, or the media which was responsible, not just the fact that M wasn’t their cup of tea at all. He became angry and vengeful when his trophy wasn’t appreciated , and he didn’t get the credit for finding her. It’s as simple as that I think. His whole self worth is bound up in her now. He doesn’t have any other identity.

Yeh, I take the point that even if he'd been heard, the reaction could well have been, no, it can't be like that. Or, no, your perception is wrong in our opinion.

Great post.