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antelopevalley · 02/12/2022 22:47

So does anyone know anything about Earthshot finalists? William and Kate went to Boston because of Earthshot, but all aI have read about is what Kate and William have done in Boston and what Kate is wearing. Why are the press not covering what Earthshot is actually about?

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antelopevalley · 05/12/2022 15:02

Sometimes on my phone it does this as a typo.

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wordler · 05/12/2022 15:25

Furries · 05/12/2022 15:01

Genuine question. Why do people sometimes post sentences with a weird combination of upper/lower case letters? I see it quite often across MN, but can’t work out what the significance is.

It’s supposed to show mockery - I think it’s just really hard to read. Apparently a SpongeBob meme made it popular

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternating_caps#Usage_and_effect

SallyLockheart · 05/12/2022 16:12

the op starts a large number of anti royal family threads so it is rather disingenuous to say "no hate towards Kate" - eg this being the poster who claimed Kate wasn't wearing a wedding ring and when proved otherwise, said, oh, but I have limited vision. Hatred of anything to do with both William and Kate abounds.

Samcro · 05/12/2022 16:17

susan12345678 · Today 12:59

Op, why so much hatred towards the POW? Its unhealthy.

Also, do you have a job? Or are you ‘taxpayer funded’? Genuine question.

if the former, I imagine your employer is getting poor value for money. Or perhaps you’re employed by Team Sussex? In which case, your employer is still getting poor value for money, because these threads are ridiculous.

pmsl coming from a rabid Meghan hater

queenofarles · 05/12/2022 16:27

really really wish I could get paid to criticise the Royal Family. Tell me how I get this job!!!
i can’t imagine it being difficult , lots of no ones became Royal reporters overnight.

if I had that much hate bottled up inside of me to the extent i start a thread almost daily . I better be getting paid for it.

antelopevalley · 05/12/2022 16:30

LOLOLOL
I have zero hate.
More like antipathy.

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Readinginthesun · 05/12/2022 16:31

antelopevalley · 05/12/2022 13:33

I work for a private company and consistently overachieve my objectives.
No hate towards Kate, I don't know her, she is a stranger. I think Kate is probably a perfectly nice privileged woman. William, I am not so sure about that.
I dislike the Royal Family as an institution. But Charles in spite of doing far more negative things than William and Kate ever have i.e. cash for honours, affair and divorce with Diana, etc has better press as he seems to be better at the PR side.
All Kate really does wrong is be a bit lazy and out of touch. This is very small fry within the Royal Family. But she and William seem terrible at PR.
A good example is Williams's statement - we are very much not a racist family when he could easily have said something bland instead. Now every time the Royal Family does something racist that statement is repeated, even when it has nothing to do with William. But by repeating his statement it cements the idea of racism with William.
Just a small example. But I admit I am fascinated at how bad William and Kate are at PR versus how good Charles and Camilla are at PR. The contrast is quite astounding.

Kate is “ small fry” within the RF ? Are you being deliberately ridiculous? She is wife of the heir to the throne !

wordler · 05/12/2022 16:32

Going back to the question of finalists being shown in studio or on home ground, having watched the whole programme it looks like an operational/creative decision which worked really well.

it was much better visually being able to see the whole teams in their own countries - interesting background settings - big visual impact of the reaction of the whole team. Much more interesting to the viewers than the standard traipse up out of the audience to accept an award.

Very slick editing and transitions from team to video to team leader acceptance speech.

Less dead air time stuff you get with people walking on and off stage, shuffling set scenery etc.

susan12345678 · 05/12/2022 17:39

But I admit I am fascinated at how bad William and Kate are at PR versus how good Charles and Camilla are at PR. The contrast is quite astounding

Your misapprehensions seem to know few bounds. Obviously the success or failure of PR can be easily measured by opinion polls - these consistently confirm that William and Kate are extremely popular- more so than Charles and Camilla (although they do a good job, IMO).

Meanwhile the same polls suggest Harry and Meghan enjoy widespread unpopularity.

Furries · 06/12/2022 00:41

@wordler - thanks for the explanation.

smilesy · 06/12/2022 07:57

@wordler yes, thank you for your explanation!

Novella4 · 06/12/2022 08:07

wordler · 05/12/2022 16:32

Going back to the question of finalists being shown in studio or on home ground, having watched the whole programme it looks like an operational/creative decision which worked really well.

it was much better visually being able to see the whole teams in their own countries - interesting background settings - big visual impact of the reaction of the whole team. Much more interesting to the viewers than the standard traipse up out of the audience to accept an award.

Very slick editing and transitions from team to video to team leader acceptance speech.

Less dead air time stuff you get with people walking on and off stage, shuffling set scenery etc.

If what you say is true - why wasn't the whole thing online ??

Because as any fool can see the ceremony is an attempt at PR for a very dull William

Morestrangethings · 06/12/2022 10:01

I’ve got the feeling that some people love to hate Harry and Meghan. Polling has been found to be very unreliable..

Morestrangethings · 06/12/2022 10:19

antelopevalley · 04/12/2022 20:34

"so they were completely comfortable in their environment,"
Yeah can't have poor black people at an event with royalty or celebrities. For their sake of course. They would be just sooo uncomfortable.

Yep, antelope. You’d think days of ‘empire’ had returned.

antelopevalley · 06/12/2022 10:46

@Morestrangethings I can actually imagine some people thinking this and not seeing the classism or racism.

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smilesy · 06/12/2022 10:47

antelopevalley · 06/12/2022 10:46

@Morestrangethings I can actually imagine some people thinking this and not seeing the classism or racism.

They didn’t see it because it wasn’t there.

sashagabadon · 06/12/2022 10:51

One of the winners was from the U.K. they stood in a large group in front of tower bridge. So didn’t fly over to Boston either.
hones the earth shot prize which basically seems a pretty good initiative is a weird thing to take aim at because you don’t like William.
not flying the hundreds of nominees for the 5 prizes seems a very sensible thing to do for an environmental competition and like a pp said worked really well in the studio and show cased the winners really well

wordler · 06/12/2022 14:10

Novella4 · 06/12/2022 08:07

If what you say is true - why wasn't the whole thing online ??

Because as any fool can see the ceremony is an attempt at PR for a very dull William

Because investors and policy makers enjoy being smooozed a little and have a chance to network with each other with a little bit of celebrity glam. And it has the added benefit of highlighting a different participating country each year - involving their TV network and audience and raising the profile of the awards.

antelopevalley · 06/12/2022 14:14

So people who gave the money need a glitzy award ceremony with celebrities as a thank you and the many women, most of whom are black and relatively poor don't need that at all.

Pull the other one. It was not online as it would not have got as much publicity for William and Kate.

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smilesy · 06/12/2022 14:41

antelopevalley · 06/12/2022 14:14

So people who gave the money need a glitzy award ceremony with celebrities as a thank you and the many women, most of whom are black and relatively poor don't need that at all.

Pull the other one. It was not online as it would not have got as much publicity for William and Kate.

Give over with your nonsense! Noneof last year prize winners were in the studio either. One winner was an entire country (Costa Rica), another, a city (Milan). Another was a pljoint project between 3 countries (Thailand, Germany and Italy). This year there was the woman and her colleagues from Africa and a group of indigenous rangers from Australia. There was also a man from India, a group from the UK and a group from Oman. None of them were in the studio. For the hard of understanding that means none of the finalists from either year were at the ceremony. So no one was singled out as you seem to be implying.

antelopevalley · 06/12/2022 14:47

You would have a representative from the organisations doing the incredible work in Costa Rica. After all Earthshot must be talking to actual individuals, not just blasting a megaphone at the whole of Costa Rica.

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smilesy · 06/12/2022 15:01

antelopevalley · 06/12/2022 14:47

You would have a representative from the organisations doing the incredible work in Costa Rica. After all Earthshot must be talking to actual individuals, not just blasting a megaphone at the whole of Costa Rica.

We are going round in circles here. Wordlerhas explained many of the reasons why the programme is made this way, many posters have said that it was good to see all the winners celebrating with their friends and colleagues rather than just one representative, others have pointed out that you would have to fly the nominees as well as the actual winners to the ceremony. My example of Costa Rica was to show you how different all the entries are in terms of the entities that are carry out the initiatives, not to suggest a whole country should
be flown in. 🙄 But whatever anyone says, you are determined to find fault just because the Waleses are involved which seems to be to be small minded and petty.

antelopevalley · 06/12/2022 15:04

I am finding fault because I have never once come across a glitzy awards ceremony that does not have the winners there. I have come across ones who do not have the nominees there and only have the winners there.
I know the winners get £1 million. But I am sure they too would have been appreciated being at a glitzy awards ceremony.

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Serenster · 06/12/2022 17:50

Maybe they would. You’ll have to poll them.

in any event, given we can be quite certain that had they all been flown over, you would now be complaining about how tone deaf it was to the emissions from all their flights, and the amount of money it would have added to the charity’s expenses, it’s not a topic I think you are genuinely concerned about.

wordler · 06/12/2022 18:47

antelopevalley · 06/12/2022 15:04

I am finding fault because I have never once come across a glitzy awards ceremony that does not have the winners there. I have come across ones who do not have the nominees there and only have the winners there.
I know the winners get £1 million. But I am sure they too would have been appreciated being at a glitzy awards ceremony.

It would actually improve a lot of award ceremonies to not have the nominees and winners there - it was much slicker cutting out the traipsing up and down to the stage - made for a much better programme.

Representatives from all 15 finalists did get flown to networking events in the UK last year where they could connect and meet the investors and policy makers from all over the world. A much more productive and useful occupation of their time. They were all celebrated and feted at those events.

Perhaps something similar will happen this year too. What I do know because I closely followed last years finalists is that the support and help they get is comprehensive and multifaceted.