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myrtleWilson · 30/11/2022 12:42

Awful story just broken on twitter about horrendous racist questioning from Lady Hussey to Ngozi Fulani from Sister Space at yesterdays VAWG event.

Lady Hussey has resigned.

[Edited by MNHQ to correct typo at OP's request]

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Squeezita · 30/11/2022 17:57

Aquablue21 · 30/11/2022 17:53

That is so disrespectful. Māori is a people and a language and a culture.

And you’re saying you’re from Mars…You’re a moron.

It's interesting that you got so upset at a perceived disrespectful remark about Māori people (which wasn't even made), but deny Ms Fulani the right to tweet about her own upset.

Why are you more worthy, Aquablue?

MsBucket · 30/11/2022 17:58

xJ0y · 30/11/2022 16:35

I agree with you @fallfallfall it was an event to recognise WA charities and she said she felt violated by being asked where she was from. I know that lady SH shouldn't have asked, or even wondered. The woman was English and im sure her accent reflected that, but does Ngozi Fulani truly feel "violated" by being asked where she's from.

@xJ0y And if Ms. Fulani did feel that way and was tired of racial micro-aggressions, are you somehow trying to invalidate her experience?

viques · 30/11/2022 17:58

tillyandmilly · 30/11/2022 17:48

Give her a break ! She is an 83 year old - ! Old school - please don’t make a mountain out of a molehill - this is all getting petty and ridiculous……yes she should not have asked this lady where she was from - as she had already said Hackney - but this has been blown out if all proportion - the world has gone mad!

At 83 she has lived long enough to recognise the changes that have happened in British society in her lifetime, just because someone is old it doesn’t mean they can’t adapt, or change their mindset, or recognise humanity in others . Anyone, whatever age they are, is capable of change if they are able to recognise that change needs to happen .

Some people of course have their own reasons for not changing, or wanting to change, or even recognising that change needs to happen.

GreensForMe · 30/11/2022 17:59

I wonder how it will all pan out for her daughter Katharine who is Camilla's 'companion' lady in waiting, must make for some uncomfortable conversations.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Hussey,_Baroness_Hussey_of_North_Bradley

Some interesting fact's about Sudan's family. Susan was incredibly close to Queen Elizabeth II.

Harry and Megan are probably having a celebratory 🍾 today.

Aquablue21 · 30/11/2022 17:59

RishisProudMum · 30/11/2022 17:56

Would you like done dressing with that Ford salad? Might make it a bit more digestible.

What’s a Ford salad? Sorry, don’t get your point? But stand by every word I wrote.

You come across as very bitter @RishisProudMum I feel sorry for you.

Squeezita · 30/11/2022 18:00

Aquablue21 · 30/11/2022 17:57

@RishisProudMum, apologies I was using reply rather than quote.

I don’t need to distance myself from anything that I’ve said. I’m not racist and I think today’s news should have been focused on the the gender based violence that too many women and girls are suffering. That’s all.

Maybe you could try and help in the fight against VAWG by not calling women hysterical, simply because you disagree with them.

LilyMumsnet · 30/11/2022 18:00

Hi all

Can we please ask for a bit of peace and love on this thread, now?

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 30/11/2022 18:02

@LilyMumsnet Would there be any chance of correcting the typo in the OP - it should be 'Ngozi' Fulani?

RishisProudMum · 30/11/2022 18:02

LookingAtYou · 30/11/2022 17:51

'Emotional abuse, controlling behaviour and racism are all DV.'

I disagree. Domestic abuse includes emotional abuse, control and coercion. Domestic violence surely incudes violence. To equate what MM experienced with domestic violence does a disservice to the victims her charity supports. She clearly isn't a fan of the RF, the hosts really should have been better prepared.

You can disagree as much as you like. It’s fortunately not to up to you. Domestic abuse and domestic violence are just different terms for the same thing, according to the UN: www.un.org/en/coronavirus/what-is-domestic-abuse

Again, you do not know what you’re talking about.

And they should have been better prepared for what? A courtier’s racism? Ngozi’s not tolerating said racism? As that’s what she should have done if she were a ‘fan of the RF’?

This desperation to discredit a Black woman who had to deal with racist nonsense is really sickening. What is wrong with you?

YumSushi · 30/11/2022 18:03

I am very angry that such a person was given a position like that. They should now immediately vet all staff for racist tendancies

Aquablue21 · 30/11/2022 18:03

Squeezita · 30/11/2022 17:57

It's interesting that you got so upset at a perceived disrespectful remark about Māori people (which wasn't even made), but deny Ms Fulani the right to tweet about her own upset.

Why are you more worthy, Aquablue?

I was relying to @RaRaRaspoutine

Aquablue21 · 30/11/2022 18:04

Aquablue21 · 30/11/2022 18:03

I was relying to @RaRaRaspoutine

And no, I don’t think I’m more ‘worthy’. But I do think, and know, I have a right to say what I think.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/11/2022 18:05

Looking at that transcript again, does anyone know if this is said to have been recorded by any of the witnesses?

It just strikes me as being very long and detailed for anyone to have retained verbatim, so I wondered if maybe someone had their phone out (if they're even allowed at these things!!)

RishisProudMum · 30/11/2022 18:06

Aquablue21 · 30/11/2022 17:57

@RishisProudMum, apologies I was using reply rather than quote.

I don’t need to distance myself from anything that I’ve said. I’m not racist and I think today’s news should have been focused on the the gender based violence that too many women and girls are suffering. That’s all.

So, write to the news outlets and do something that compares to even 1% of what Ngozi has done and is doing about VAWG.

GreensForMe · 30/11/2022 18:06

YumSushi · 30/11/2022 18:03

I am very angry that such a person was given a position like that. They should now immediately vet all staff for racist tendancies

Susan has been a lady in waiting for over 60 years. Entrenched loyalties.

Camilla appointed Susan's daughter as well as Duchess of Kent’s former lady-in-waiting as her new companions. IIRC, it was the Duchess of Kent who wore a racist brooch when meeting Meghan but I could be mistaken.

Aquablue21 · 30/11/2022 18:06

LilyMumsnet · 30/11/2022 18:00

Hi all

Can we please ask for a bit of peace and love on this thread, now?

Good idea, I’m out. There’s some real intolerance on here. Very sad.

RishisProudMum · 30/11/2022 18:08

Aquablue21 · 30/11/2022 17:59

What’s a Ford salad? Sorry, don’t get your point? But stand by every word I wrote.

You come across as very bitter @RishisProudMum I feel sorry for you.

You come across as hysterical, poorly educated, and lacking in the ability to form a coherent narrative. I don’t feel particularly sorry for you, though. Just making an observation.

MsBucket · 30/11/2022 18:08

LookingAtYou · 30/11/2022 17:23

Absolutely this.

@Aquablue21 Since you somehow think Ms Fulani made this all about herself and somehow think you’re an expert, how do you suggest she went about it? Last I checked, she doesn’t choose what to be in the headlines.

LookingAtYou · 30/11/2022 18:08

RishisProudMum · 30/11/2022 18:02

You can disagree as much as you like. It’s fortunately not to up to you. Domestic abuse and domestic violence are just different terms for the same thing, according to the UN: www.un.org/en/coronavirus/what-is-domestic-abuse

Again, you do not know what you’re talking about.

And they should have been better prepared for what? A courtier’s racism? Ngozi’s not tolerating said racism? As that’s what she should have done if she were a ‘fan of the RF’?

This desperation to discredit a Black woman who had to deal with racist nonsense is really sickening. What is wrong with you?

Domestic violence is not falling out with inlaws. What is wrong with you?

They should have been better prepared yes. If someone had previous likened the Sussex debacle to domestic violence I think I'd have had switched on people interacting with the attendees not a 83 yr old lady asking inappropriate, probing questions.

I bet Harry is loving this just as PW arrives in Boston.

Abra1t · 30/11/2022 18:09

GreensForMe · 30/11/2022 18:06

Susan has been a lady in waiting for over 60 years. Entrenched loyalties.

Camilla appointed Susan's daughter as well as Duchess of Kent’s former lady-in-waiting as her new companions. IIRC, it was the Duchess of Kent who wore a racist brooch when meeting Meghan but I could be mistaken.

it was Princess Michael of Kent.

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/11/2022 18:09

Aquablue21 · 30/11/2022 17:47

What gives you the right to sit as judge and jury? @Squeezita Got any opinions of your own? Or just happy to shout ‘wrong’, ‘racist’.

It’s women like you and @RishisProudMum that make it so hard for aspiring women. Men think all women and stupid and emotional because of the comments women like you make. So tired of the hysteria and stone throwing. Boring and ignorant.

Wow, racist and misogynist.

Squeezita · 30/11/2022 18:09

Aquablue21 · 30/11/2022 18:04

And no, I don’t think I’m more ‘worthy’. But I do think, and know, I have a right to say what I think.

And yet you are saying that Ms Fulani shouldn't have made her tweets.

Why do you have the right to say what you think but she doesn't?

YumSushi · 30/11/2022 18:10

GreensForMe · 30/11/2022 18:06

Susan has been a lady in waiting for over 60 years. Entrenched loyalties.

Camilla appointed Susan's daughter as well as Duchess of Kent’s former lady-in-waiting as her new companions. IIRC, it was the Duchess of Kent who wore a racist brooch when meeting Meghan but I could be mistaken.

Then they need to vet them all again now there is a new king. Zero tolerance. Get them out.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 30/11/2022 18:11

GreensForMe · 30/11/2022 18:06

Susan has been a lady in waiting for over 60 years. Entrenched loyalties.

Camilla appointed Susan's daughter as well as Duchess of Kent’s former lady-in-waiting as her new companions. IIRC, it was the Duchess of Kent who wore a racist brooch when meeting Meghan but I could be mistaken.

Over 60 years in post and Queen Elizabeth has only been dead for just over two months.

Didn't take long for her mask to slip, did it?

LookingAtYou · 30/11/2022 18:11

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/11/2022 18:05

Looking at that transcript again, does anyone know if this is said to have been recorded by any of the witnesses?

It just strikes me as being very long and detailed for anyone to have retained verbatim, so I wondered if maybe someone had their phone out (if they're even allowed at these things!!)

Must've been recorded as it's very specific. No-one could remember that word for word.

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