Member of Household resigns

[myrtleWilson]

Awful story just broken on twitter about horrendous racist questioning from Lady Hussey to Ngozi Fulani from Sister Space at yesterdays VAWG event.

Lady Hussey has resigned.

[Edited by MNHQ to correct typo at OP's request]

'Ms Fulani tweeted: 'Our charity supports black women DV survivors. I can't stay silent about this. I admire Meghan for speaking out. According to clear definition, it seems Meghan is a survivor of DV from her in-laws.'

As NF previously alledegy said this one can't help wondering if there was an agenda here. Also, what an appalling false equivalence. Domestic violence is not falling out with the inlaws.

Yep. out

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to the point of surpassing or exceeding.
"outfight"

Aww, poor Croque is all sad that an Asian woman dares to claim she is smarter than her. Am I getting too big for my boots, Croque?

Just to be clear @Justasec321, you’re saying Lady Hussey’s line questioning was not offensive? And @hattie43 you believe that you believe it was all an overreaction and that you disagree with the “demonisation of an old lady”? So it’s ok accost someone at a charity event or anywhere in particular and ask them “Where are you from?” And if they say that they’re British, ask “No really, where are you really from?” As though you don’t believe that they can be British? Or move someone’s hair to check their name badge? None of that is offensive to you? And people saying that this is racist, is demonisation of a sweet old lady who thought nothing of accosting a WOC in a charity event and question them more than once instead of ask about their line of work or charity? That’s all ok to you?

Nope, those don’t answer my questions. If you think they do, read them again.

You’re the racist one because you won’t allow other women to have a voice if you don’t agree with them or they don’t fit the narrative.

Disagreeing with you in no way denies you a voice. You can say what you want, and I can think it’s garbage.

Also intrigued as to how this makes me racist as I’m unaware of your race and you have no idea of mine.

I raised my point of view in a respectful manner and all you can do is insult me.

You did not and I did not.

You’re as bad as Lady Susan.

Makes no sense in this context.

I won’t let people like you put me down for having my opinion.

We will ‘put you down’ for spewing ignorant garbage. There’s not much you can do about it apart from go away.

I don't think it's fair to say Ngozi Fulani has made it all about herself, not the charity - it was Susan Hussey who was ignoring the charity - if you look at the exchange:

Lady SH: Where are you from?
Me: Sistah Space.
SH: No, where do you come from?
Me: We're based in Hackney.

That's twice Ngozi tried to centre the charity, but Susan had another agenda.

Nonsense. It's perfectly clear that Ngozi (not Ngoni) was expecting to be asked questions about her charity and was taken aback by the line of questioning. There is no trap. Stop trying to 'put her in her place'.

I cannot believe William had a spokesperson make an announcement. He’s the one who told a reporter that the royal family is not racist and when it turns out they are intact racist he won’t speak on the subject himself. He should hang his head in shame

Out of interest, did you feel the same when Harry also got a spokesperson to express regret for racism? And that was HIS OWN racism rather than someone else's

@Softplayhooray Very recently, we saw Kate Middleton shaking hands with little black Jamaican kids through a chain link fence. AND that photo was released by the palace PR who saw nothing wrong with it. Of course they wouldn't. It's a white, privileged experience looking at those photos and being the person in those photos, and not seeing what is so obviously there - racism and ugliness - to the point that this photo would be proudly made public.

I utterly condemn what Susan Hussey has done. It’s abhorrent. But I think the above comment is really unfair.

Kate and William were visiting Trenchtown football ground and were on the pitch at the time. The fence wasn’t put up for their visit. There is a photo of Bob Marley playing on the same pitch with the same chain link fence behind him (I’m guessing from the 70s or 80s). Even football training grounds in the UK have chain link fences around the perimeter. Everyone there that day, including Black British footballer Raheem Sterling, shook the childrens’ hands through the same chain link fence. In fact, I’m sure Sterling was there shaking hands through the fence before William & Kate even arrived. The photos you saw were cropped and didn’t show the whole picture. People used the cropped image dubiously to suit their own agenda (which is to find anything they can show as proof that the royal family is racist).

There is undoubtedly problems within the institution, but spouting untruths like Kate is a racist based on a cropped photo isn’t helping the problem. People are so keen to find anything to suit their narrative that they jump on anything that fits their agenda. It’s like the poster who keeps insisting that a photo of Richard Johnson in black face is William. They want to prove that the family are racist so jump on any little detail, even when it’s factually incorrect.

Be mad at Susan Hussey and her abhorrent behaviour. Be mad if it is confirmed that Buckingham Palace haven’t got in contact with Ngozi Fulani like they have claimed. Be mad that Susan Hussey was put in charge of helping Meghan into the firm (and Meghan has since claimed someone within the institution was racist towards her). Be Don’t resort to altering facts to suit your own narrative:

Educate yourself

Educate myself about what, exactly? Your opinions on how Black women should handle racism? But, how, when you won’t tell us?

I'm entitled to express my feeling of unease about how this was handled

Yet you cannot say how it should have been handled.

while also agreeing on the seriousness of the incident and the resignation.

Nowhere have you done that.

I suspect you're making inaccurate assumptions about my skin colour

I don’t think I am.

not that I give a stuff about what you think

Yet, you’re responding.

Oh absolutely. All this spokesperson rubbish is pathetic. Get out there and say it yourself.

Just to be clear, what ‘ignorant garbage’ am I ‘spewing’? Looking for facts, rather than your opinions.

Prefer if you’d keep it civil, rather than resorting to insults. Appreciate that might be difficult for you, if you don’t have any facts.

For the love of God at least get Ngozi Fulani's name right. Why do people keep calling her Ngoni?

Easy to criticise. Not so easy to give an educated opinion.

Not just ‘uneasy’, but ‘entitled’ to said feelings of unease.

Ngozi made one Twitter post. Apparently this was OTT and she should have handled it better. They won’t tell us how, though.

I suspect they just want BW to be silent.

Completely agree.

Looking from the outside - why should people have to state their race in order to say what their opinion is about something? The point of equality is that race shouldn't matter (even though we know that sadly often it still does!).
Have these posters been asked to "disclose" their race and refused? Even if they did comply, what would be the point? They could just make it up.
We need to be adults and treat each comment and opinion on it's own merit - even if we disagree - regardless of what colour, religion or race the poster might be. Demanding that people declare their ethnicity or whatever only serves to perpetuate stereotypes, divisions and conflict.

Ngozi Fulani's name is wrong in the OP; I think people are following that lead. Perhaps @myrtleWilson could ask MNHQ to edit it so her name is correct?

Thank you, Lockets xx

The where re you from question is bizarre to say the least.
'Which organisation /charity are you from/with' would have made much more contextual sense. The grabbing of hair and checking the name tag assert Susan's dominance when she should have just been hospitable, diplomatic and put the guest at ease.

The high status of the royal family members and the entrenched interpersonal loyalties between them and their entourage render the way the royal family operates biased, toxic, archaic, oppressive, unfair and unacceptable.

It's been repeatedly explained to you.

You have accused a black woman speaking up about racism of making it all about her and setting out to dominate the headlines.

If you can't see how ignorant and racist that is despite your 'African heritage, Caribbean descent, British born child' and 'Afro Caribbean husband' then there is no hope for you.

She did not say she was from hackney. She said the company (or words to that effect) was from Hackney.

Petronella Wyatt, journalist, interviewed on PM.

Total failure to understand the issue.

Apparently Petronella (who is white) has middle European features ( whatever they are) and is often asked where she is from and is always happy to say.

And she (PW) has known Lady Hussey since she was 18 , and knows for a fact that she has never offended anyone.

i was listening to this while driving, and if I had driven into the back of someone my defence would have been that I was distracted by the grinding sound of the establishment closing ranks.

@FancyFanny It what way was Ngozi Fulani answering in a passive aggressive way? I’m curious how you came to that assumption.

I absolutely cringed earlier on when I read about how Lady Susan Hussey conducted this conversation. She was an absolute bulldozer. She had the bit between her teeth and she wasn't going to let go!

I really can't imagine disbelieving someone when they had already told me where they were from.

I'm relieved she has resigned and hope that the royals don't sneak her back into the fold. She's clearly racist, and a very loose cannon.

@TheTantrumoftheToddlerIsThere I'm not in any way disparaging your intent on posting this, or trying to be combative. There's a lot of things you just don't see. Those photos in Trenchtown were appalling, and an entire PR team not seeing why sadly speaks volumes, as does this Hussey incident. The insidious nature of what that photo represents is so repugnant and so dripping in history in such a foul way.

If I hadn't ended up years ago working in a borough that was extremely culturally diverse and where I started to see this for what it was every single day in the particular role I had (I'm white)...I mean, I thought I knew before that, what racism was, and the nature of it and I thought I understood and cared, but I didn't - not really. Its hard for us to see when we don't see it and experience it every day - but that doesn't mean it isn't there. It is everywhere, it's relentless but it's hard to see if it's not directed specifically at you.