Member of Household resigns

[myrtleWilson]

Awful story just broken on twitter about horrendous racist questioning from Lady Hussey to Ngozi Fulani from Sister Space at yesterdays VAWG event.

Lady Hussey has resigned.

[Edited by MNHQ to correct typo at OP's request]

@Supersimkin2 What Panorama con? Also, whether any offense was intended or not, Ms. Hussey was being racially offensive. I’m also surprised she was allowed to even be at such an event. It’s clearly not the first time offensive remarks were made and I certainly doubt it will be the last.

Aka why are you brown?

Cringe!

Why didn't she just say 'I'm British but my parents came here in the 50s' and state the country in the first place . What is racist about asking about people's heritage?
Most people don't want to have to give their life story to a random that they'll never meet again. British is a quick way for her to be polite with an answer.
Were white people people asked where they were from? Did she want to know if they were from Newport or Newcastle or was it enough that they were white and spoke with an English accent ?

Ngoni Fulani was passive aggressive? You are so clueless.

What more can they do?

Get rid of all aids and staff, paid or unpaid, who refuse to abide by the palace's D&I ethos, train all remaining staff in unconscious bias, recruit from a much broader pool and run a tight ship.

This is a pivotal moment for the palace and the exact time where the British Royal family enters a new era. Let's see what this will look like. A lot will hinge on how successful Charles is in reinventing the royal household.

For me, the most surprising aspects of this is how quickly the palace have responded!

Your attempt to drop the mic are 😄considering that I made that point myself and you are telling me about a member of my own family whose identity is tied up with my own. I am pretty well informed about both sides of the debate and not afraid to be unpopular. Thanks though

And yet it was offensive.

FFS some people on here.

Stop making excuses for her.

That is exactly what she was doing. She was answered but the answer wasn't good enough for Hussey, so she kept challenging the answer to get a different one. Because as a black woman she couldn't possible be British. I mean for pity's sake what was the mind numbingly thick comment about France for?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=RU_htgjlMVE

She's from a generation when race was thought of very differently to how it is now. I know many people of that generation who do not understand how things have changed and how modern etiquette around race is very different.

So, interrogating someone about their antecedents when they clearly don’t want to have the conversation and accusing them of being ‘difficult’ when they don’t do what one wants is excused if you grew up in a time when the ‘etiquette’ around race involved treating Black people like second class citizens?

Ngoni Fulani knew what Lady Hussey meant and was deliberately answering in an ambiguous and passively aggressive way.

So, it’s Ngozi‘s (please at least spell her name correctly) responsibility to know what this stupid woman meant and answer in the manner she wanted? Why? Why was Lady S entitled to this information, in your opinion? And why is it not the responsibility of the courtier to not be a rude twat?

The palace have responded appropriately to her complaints so what more can they do?

I am yet to see anyone request that they do anything additional. Where have you seen this?

@MrsFinkelstein I’m glad that it is. At the very least, it might prove to be educational for those who think it’s ok and badger POC with questions about their heritage.

According to the BBC article linked above, Ms Fulani was at a charity event where she was questioned by William’s godmother so she is clearly is of some significance to the royals so of course more has been made of this especially if there are accusations of the royal family of being racist.

Did you even read the transcript. She answered many, many MANY times. Only a racist would find a reason to blame the victim here

'Both sides of the debate'?

Ok...

You are a total idiot.

I gave the example of my aunt, because as I said, I could imagine her making such a remark but not meaning anything by it.

How racist you are, assuming that I am white???

I agree with you @fallfallfall it was an event to recognise WA charities and she said she felt violated by being asked where she was from. I know that lady SH shouldn't have asked, or even wondered. The woman was English and im sure her accent reflected that, but does Ngozi Fulani truly feel "violated" by being asked where she's from.

So glad it all came to light :)

Meghan was never a liar.

Except these are not employees in the normal way - courtiers are often on expenses and personal close friends of the Royals.

So the "we are very much not racists" Royals surrounding themselves with racist cronies. Now what kind of people overlook or ignore racism in their closest circle, the people in particular positions of trust with them, who have to deal with the public?

I set my watch by it.

Can we stop being so ageist. I have aunties that age who would never be:

1. so racist
2. so rude
3. so arrogant.

If someone asks me where I'm from and I say Essex, I don't add that my parents are actually from SE London.
But if you had a Scottish name and accent and you said Essex people might question you further?

I get it. People have always asked where I am from/ where were my family from/ where do I get my looks from.
It was embarrassing. I felt in was othering because of the judgements whenI said India.. Now I don’t get embarrassed because the stereotyping has changed. People also keep their negative judgements to themselves. But people still ask me and that includes other races than white British.

Oh how we laugh...!

@RishisProudMum NF comes across as a perpetually insulted snowflake.
there is nothing wrong with the interaction given the age and stage of the person involved.

Yes, a Black British person who has identified themselves as such being asked where they are really from, as though their identification of themselves is incorrect or untrue will feel violated. If you are unaware of this, there is quite a lot of available reading on the subject. Would you like recommendations?

I personally find it very entertaining to answer in a way that encourages a truly racist person to continue to dig their own bigoted grave. You seem to be suggesting that the best approach is to make it easier for racists to be racist by answering in a way that satisfies their racist rhetoric. Said like a true racists. Good to have revealed your views to the forum

How is saying "I am from Hackney" deliberately answering in an ambiguous and passively aggressive way?