Harry, Meghan and Netflix are go

[CathyorClaire]

The long awaited documentray is hitting the screen on December 8th:

www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/breaking-prince-harry-meghan-markles-28607547

What with the award in a few days and the book in January they're ramping up the game.

Totally agree with all you have said. Thank you.

Maybe William is glad to see his father happy. He is in a position to know a lot more about what went on than the general public. If he has made his peace with the situation, I think that's good enough. Camilla hasn't put a foot wrong since Diana died, and clearly she is the support and 'strength and stay' he needs as King.

Has it ever occurred to you that William knows a lot more than you or some ‘ordinary man on the street’? And that’s the reason he accepts her.

Or maybe he believes people shouldn’t continued to be punished for something they did 30 years ago and looks at how they have behaved since.

Do you really believe anyone who has an affair should be shamed forever? Would it make you feel better if if she was made to carry the shame bell?

The ham operators said it was them. No one has ever disproved that or proved differently. Why wouldnt I believe them?

We don't know her calls were being recorded. She had her apartment swept regularly and they never found any bugs. The secret services might have recorded her, I suppose. But we don't know.

I don't know what you're referring to. There is crown copyright on the documentary of the family. Diana's interview? Seems unlikely.

Totally agree with all you have said. Thank you.

Yeah, no problem, @Roussette. I didn't think you said anything wrong. Different characters, different experiences and an admitted little bias. 😉 That's life in a nutshell really.

For some people, if the mother has died and is out of hurt's way, and father wants to marry the 'other woman', then making a reasonable relationship with that woman might be a very sensible and calming and mature thing to do. You don't have to become her best friend of all time. It takes two people to make a divorce. Surely there are plenty of people who can stand back and take a long look at the bad marriage of their parents and see that there were difficulties from both sides, and love them both, and accept the step parent with grace.

i was one of those who would have happily pelted C and C with rotten eggs. But if William can manage a civilised relationship with them then who am I to judge.

I just went down a short hunt and everything I can find shows BBC holds the copyright.

Netflix used it under the Fair Use (what it is called In the US) or Fair Dealings (in the UK).

A lot of rewriting of history here.

Criticising Charles for having an affair means you should also criticise Diana who had several affairs with married men. Breaking up 2 marriages in the process.

Marriages breakdown all the time, families work through it, some better than others. Criticising someone for the breakdown of their marriage 30 years after seems bizarre.

Both parties were at fault, both were dealing with it and there are several reports that Charles & Diana had reached a comfortable "friendship" in the summer before she died. I'm sure both wanted the other to find happiness in their lives going forward. That's what adults tend to do.

i was one of those who would have happily pelted C and C with rotten eggs. But if William can manage a civilised relationship with them then who am I to judge

interesting to note that Charles was literally pelted with eggs this week. A security expert quoted by the Telegraph said that Meghan and Harry have a small number of dangerous, over-invested fans and that they had put the RF’s security at risk with their vague allegations

Could you link to the article that says it was H&M fans that did this? I've read a few news reports and it was a man in Luton. No where does it say it was anything to do with H&M

The previous egging was by a University student who was shouting 'the country was built on the blood of slaves'. Nothing to do with H&M.

You are making it up that this is 'dangerous over invested H&M fans'

Here

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/12/10/harry-meghans-documentary-may-put-royal-family-risk-warns-ex/

I think it is a bit weird that the scene of H&M at what I thought was their home in the US were a different house apparently, if news reports are correct. I accept that people often film elsewhere than their house eg at a hotel for privacy reasons and plenty of people refuse to show press like Hello! into their home so burglars do not see their valuables, but even so it just has a bit of a feeling of deception. They could have filmed in a local hotel or made it clear they were not at home, even all the instances before the show when people have thought they were not being quite honest.

It is behind a paywall so I can't read it but does it directly say that the two incidents of eggings were by dangerous and over invested H&M fans?
Or is this just an opinion piece?
Ahhh I can see who wrote it. You don't need to tell me any more. Camilla Tominey. She has spread vile and unpleasant stuff about the couple since day one.

Bear in mind she made up a death threat too.. it's all out there. It was proven it came from another email address of hers. So I pay no attention to this.

People do this all the time though, don't they? Celebrities and famous people film and photograph from all sorts of exotic locations, and borrowed mansions.

Camilla Tominey. She has spread vile and unpleasant stuff about the couple since day one.
Bear in mind she made up a death threat too.. it's all out there. It was proven it came from another email address of hers.

I'd forgotten this. 😱🤣🤣

She really is horrid.

Here’s a quote from
the article:

*Harry and Meghan’s Netflix documentary is putting the Royal family at risk from extremists, the former head of royalty protection has warned.

Security expert Dai Davies, a former divisional commander in the Metropolitan Police who guarded Queen Elizabeth II and other members of the family, said the couple had raised a “credible threat” by attacking their relatives on race grounds.

“There’s a small minority that think Meghan walks on water,” he said. “I’ve always said there’s a greater risk from fixated individuals than there is from terrorists.

“Because their narrative has been attached to race to the extent it has – you could have those at the extreme end of the taking knee variety having a go at members of the Royal family.

“I really think it could create a small minority who might. I think it’s a credible threat and I think it should be taken very seriously, especially now the documentary has come out.”

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Referring to the King twice being on the receiving end of egg-throwing since he took the throne, the former senior policeman added: “Twice now Charles has had eggs thrown at him.

“I was surprised the first time at the slowness of the reaction. I think it’s a real possibility that they do face these sorts of incidents especially as the King and Queen Consort and the Prince and Princess of Wales are in such close contact with the public.”

His comments came as George R Franks, former US policeman and an associate professor at Stephen F Austin University in Texas, raised concerns that “the destructive and damaging comments and allegations made by Harry and Meghan Markle are placing the life and safety of members of the Royal family in jeopardy.”

He said: “I have been studying their increasingly tenacious attack on the character of the Royals and the institution of the monarchy for the past several months with a growing concern for the safety of the members of the ‘working royals’, but also for the children of the Prince and Princess of Wales.

“I have experience with cases where individuals have committed or attempted to commit violent crimes in support of the cause of another towards whom they have become enamoured and protective.

“All we need is one individual becoming obsessed with creating a situation that would place Harry as the heir apparent, and we could have a disastrous outcome.”*

@Roussette
She has spread vile and unpleasant stuff about the couple since day one.

can you supply a link to prove this? She is a respected journalist. She has been critical of H & M, yes - as have many people - their behaviour has been pretty selfish and damaging. The fact that you are determined to defend them at all costs does not make those that disagree with their behaviour vile or unpleasant.

Referring to the King twice being on the receiving end of egg-throwing since he took the throne, the former senior policeman added: “Twice now Charles has had eggs thrown at him.

It has already been discounted that these incidents are from H&M fans.

Camilla Tominey has had it in for the couple since Meghan came on the scene. She has given interviews, one on This Morning making up what Meghan was supposed to have said about Archie and him reading. She was roundly critiicised for that... which was when she made up her death threat.

You might respect CT, I don't.

It has already been discounted that these incidents are from H&M fans

it isn’t clear whether they were H&M fans or not, the point is that Harry and Meghan’s behaviour and vague ‘smears’ are putting members of Harry’s family at risk - according to experienced security experts.

evidently you have no issues with that.

I think shouting 'the country was built on the blood off slaves' rather proves my point.

If you have evidence of the man in Luton shouting something about H&M do let me know

The article is from the very right wing Telegraph and throw CT into that, it doesn't surprise me.

This
you could have those at the extreme end of the taking knee variety having a go at members of the Royal family.

'Could' please not. And 'taking knee variety'... typical Telegraph language. Is the word 'woke' in there too?

But, but… what about the chickens??

"Harry and Meghan’s Netflix documentary is putting the Royal family at risk from extremists, the former head of royalty protection has warned^
"Security expert Dai Davies, a former divisional commander in the Metropolitan Police who guarded Queen Elizabeth II and other members of the family, said the couple had raised a “credible threat” by attacking their relatives on race grounds"

Okay, so unless they've made up what Dai Davies said - and I'd put nothing past them - then that sounds a credible opinion from someone in a position to know about these things

Since the police operate in the monarch's name I don't discount the possibility he's been asked to say this, but expect it to be discounted by those to whom only H&M's opimions matter

I think it is a bit weird that the scene of H&M at what I thought was their home in the US were a different house apparently, if news reports are correct.

The original director wanted to film them at home but they said no. So he left the project. Clearly they have control over the filming and content, which I don't disagree with. After all it's not a tell all like, say the Lance Armstrong documentary, in which he cooperated but they included other people to tell the opposing, and more challenging side. This is just a PR, hello style interview. Where they have rehearsed what they will be asked, can be asked, and what they want to reply. Like the Oprah Winfrey. Like their engagement interview which they condemned for being the same.

After all it's not a tell all like, say the Lance Armstrong documentary, in which he cooperated but they included other people to tell the opposing, and more challenging side. This is just a PR, hello style interview. Where they have rehearsed what they will be asked, can be asked, and what they want to reply. Like the Oprah Winfrey. Like their engagement interview which they condemned for being the same.

Exactly - it's propaganda, basically