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Harry, Meghan and Netflix are go

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CathyorClaire · 29/11/2022 11:03

The long awaited documentray is hitting the screen on December 8th:

www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/breaking-prince-harry-meghan-markles-28607547

What with the award in a few days and the book in January they're ramping up the game.

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Aspiringmatriarch · 10/12/2022 13:31

derxa · 10/12/2022 13:21

Course I watched it. I loved their love story anecdotes. Then it went downhill.
-Using footage of other press harrassed royal women but none of Meghan because there wasn't any
-A patronising history lesson about the British Empire and slavery - stuff I've known I was 12
-The implication that we are all racist Brexiteers in the UK. I'm a Scottish Remainer so that pissed me off
-The digs at Kate and the Queen. The Queen whose coffin millions of people queued to see and pay respects to. Including many people of colour. They curtsied, bowed and didn't find it at all difficult. They weren't serfs. They were ordinary people who had respect for their head of state.

Fair enough. You saw implications I didn't, and I definitely didn't spot any bitching about the RF. Clearly Samantha and Thomas Markle didn't come out of it well though!

Abra1t · 10/12/2022 13:33

derxa · 10/12/2022 12:56

That very thought went through my head today. They could easily run a wellness centre and sell products online. It's an honest way of making a living. Why not? A lot better than bitching about your families in a sad documentary.

They’d be good at it too.

Itsthewhitehat · 10/12/2022 13:53

Roussette · 10/12/2022 13:03

No, it's not

I disagree. It’s very much their message.

If it’s not, why would they have any problems? What is their story?

Snugglepiggy · 10/12/2022 14:33

Having watched Simon Reeves America documentary and seeing the shocking environmental damage done on California through climate change and drought with added agriculture, lifestyles like swimming pools and sprinkler systems etc it got me thinking.Thinking about how previously in Africa Harry seemed happy.How the eco /conservation thing seemed a good fit .And would probably have generated far more sympathy giving up royal duties for that-rather than a celebrity tell all documentary. I'd have been genuinely interested to watch a documentary of them chucking themselves into some substantial projects in something like that.

Roussette · 10/12/2022 15:02

Itsthewhitehat · 10/12/2022 13:53

I disagree. It’s very much their message.

If it’s not, why would they have any problems? What is their story?

Have you watched the series? They focussed on the media, the relationship between it and the RF and the racism that affected that press and social media

RiverSkater · 10/12/2022 15:05

@bakalava agreed. Their brand is being royal. And they are trashing that brand.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/12/2022 15:12

Using footage of other press harrassed royal women but none of Meghan because there wasn't any

There was also a scene where they were being driven, pointing out the wretched cameras - only I genuinely couldn't make out where they meant, and they certainly weren't crowding around the car and blocking the way as they used to with others

I don't dispute for an instant some of the awfulness there's been in the print and social media - though still can't understand why they chose to manipulate the headlines on Oprah - but it seemed a bit odd to make a thing of harassment when it wasn't obviously there

Itsthewhitehat · 10/12/2022 15:22

Roussette · 10/12/2022 15:02

Have you watched the series? They focussed on the media, the relationship between it and the RF and the racism that affected that press and social media

Their whole angle is that. I don’t see the benefit in pretending it isn’t. That’s been the story since the OW interview. It’s really clear that’s what they are saying about the RF. I don’t, entirely, disagree with them.

Are you really suggesting they never spoke about the RF? The marriages? The stiffness? How they interact behind closed doors?Seems you missed quite large chunks.

MarshaMelrose · 10/12/2022 15:39

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 07:47

@EdithWeston

Diana did not regret her panorama interview . The royals did though !
So it was banned . Utterly disgraceful .
Just as they also banned the film of 'royal' life made in the 60s - the film they asked the bbc to make . Once they realised it didn't help the royal PR ( the queen referring to an ambassador as a 'gorilla' for example) - BANNED

The Bashir issue has been seized on by willliam and Charles to try to discredit Diana's interview further .
Diana meant what she said and she was clear - and she was right in what she said 'there were three of us in the marriage'

William has thrown his lot in with Charles and Camilla because that furthers his own interests.

Diana never knew she'd been lied to, though. She died believing Bashir. That Charles was bugging her, that her staff were spying on her, that she was going to be killed. She believed his fake documentation and evidence. Because what Bashir told her fitted in with her narrative, she believed that over what her closest family were telling her. As a result of that faked evidence, she felt vindicated that all she feared was true. So she gave up british protection offcers who ultimately would not have allowed her to drive with a drink driver or not wear a seatbelt. And she may still be alive. Why would william want to see the man who may very well have contributed to her death still be on TV, exploiting her?

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 15:46

@MarshaMelrose
Nonsense .
Diana was ready to talk openly . Bashir is a side issue

None of what she said in that interview had anything to do with Bashir .THATS why William and Charles want the interview banned - to help build their own narrative and re write history to suit their version

Roussette · 10/12/2022 15:47

Itsthewhitehat · 10/12/2022 15:22

Their whole angle is that. I don’t see the benefit in pretending it isn’t. That’s been the story since the OW interview. It’s really clear that’s what they are saying about the RF. I don’t, entirely, disagree with them.

Are you really suggesting they never spoke about the RF? The marriages? The stiffness? How they interact behind closed doors?Seems you missed quite large chunks.

I can assure you I watched all three episodes. But the way you portray it is not the way I took it

Roussette · 10/12/2022 15:50

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 15:46

@MarshaMelrose
Nonsense .
Diana was ready to talk openly . Bashir is a side issue

None of what she said in that interview had anything to do with Bashir .THATS why William and Charles want the interview banned - to help build their own narrative and re write history to suit their version

Totally agree. Is anyone denying there were 3 in the marriage? Or all the other stuff she talked about?

It's very very uncomfortable for William and Charles, it suits them for it never to be seen again

derxa · 10/12/2022 15:53

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 15:46

@MarshaMelrose
Nonsense .
Diana was ready to talk openly . Bashir is a side issue

None of what she said in that interview had anything to do with Bashir .THATS why William and Charles want the interview banned - to help build their own narrative and re write history to suit their version

Truly wicked interpretation

smilesy · 10/12/2022 16:01

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 15:46

@MarshaMelrose
Nonsense .
Diana was ready to talk openly . Bashir is a side issue

None of what she said in that interview had anything to do with Bashir .THATS why William and Charles want the interview banned - to help build their own narrative and re write history to suit their version

Maybe none of what she said was down to Bashir, but the point that pp were making is that he made her believe that she was being spied on and couldn’t trust her protection team. As a result she made a bad decision on the night she died, which she might not otherwise have done. This has nothing to do with the 3 in the marriage and what she actually said. Those were obviously her true feelings. She may well have been ready to talk, but Bashir ensures that it was him that she talked to by feeding her untruths. That is what is objectionable about the interview.

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:07

@derxa 😂

Get a grip .

Diana spoke the truth during her interview
But now the the third person in their marriage , Camilla , is queen ( slight problem re Charles' promise when he married her that she would never be queen but what's a few lies between subjects and king?) and all must be white washed
Mustn't remind the masses .
Unfortunately for them 'the crown ' had it word for word .

William is an arrogant sod .

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:11

@smilesy
Diana's calls were being listened to
Whether by amateurs or 'professionals ' we won't know but they were recorded .
Remember squidgygate?

derxa · 10/12/2022 16:22

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:07

@derxa 😂

Get a grip .

Diana spoke the truth during her interview
But now the the third person in their marriage , Camilla , is queen ( slight problem re Charles' promise when he married her that she would never be queen but what's a few lies between subjects and king?) and all must be white washed
Mustn't remind the masses .
Unfortunately for them 'the crown ' had it word for word .

William is an arrogant sod .

I was the biggest Diana fan and was willing her on during the Panorama interview. However we now know how it was obtained. You seem to think that William wants to airbrush the past. If I was him I wouldn't want to hear or see that interview or the Dimbleby interview with Charles ever again. So many painful and embarrassing memories for William. It's his mother not yours. Diana's story was well documented in Andrew Morton's book

MarshaMelrose · 10/12/2022 16:22

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 15:46

@MarshaMelrose
Nonsense .
Diana was ready to talk openly . Bashir is a side issue

None of what she said in that interview had anything to do with Bashir .THATS why William and Charles want the interview banned - to help build their own narrative and re write history to suit their version

If you think Bashir's a side issue, you've missed the argument completely. Why would Charles Spencer want it banned to suit his version? He was openly critical of the royals. When he made his first complaint, he was assured by the BBC that it had been fully investigated,and Bashir had apologised. He was never happy but there was nothing he could do. He never called for it to be banned. And at that time he didn't know that bank accounts etc had been forged. William never called for it to be banned.
It was only when Matt Wiessler came forward 25 years later that the full truth, which the BBC already knew, came to light. And both the extent to which Diana had been lied to and the cover up at the BBC was exposed. People had lost their jobs and reputations because of what Bashir and the BBC did.
It was then that William called for the banning of the programme. King Charles has never said anything. Everyone knows what she said, the text is available, channel 5 do a programme about Diana every week. What narrative is William hiding? Is there anyone that doesn't know that Charles had an affair with camilla? How by asking that one interview where he knows his mother was lied to, deceived, paranoia made more concrete, is that changing any narrati
Look past your dislike for the royals and think of a son, having been a confident for all her delusions, losing his mother.
Bashir and the BBC were a bloody disgrace.

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:25

The royals were the disgrace
Charles was the one cheating and lying !
Get your priorities straight!

They have also banned the BBC 'home movie' that the royals now don't like .
Where do they get off with banning programmes they don't approve of ?
Luckily there are other means

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:26

@derxa
There's a thought - is the Charles Dimbleby interview also banned ??

MarshaMelrose · 10/12/2022 16:28

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:11

@smilesy
Diana's calls were being listened to
Whether by amateurs or 'professionals ' we won't know but they were recorded .
Remember squidgygate?

Then you must say so were Charles'. No campaign against Diana by Charles. No rewriting the narrative.
We know they were recorded by ham radio operators. They were in the newspapers. Unless of course they were sleeper agents planted 40 years previously for this very occasionally. Whooo. 🙄

derxa · 10/12/2022 16:28

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:26

@derxa
There's a thought - is the Charles Dimbleby interview also banned ??

It should be.

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:29

Looks like Charles's interview with Dimbleby is still available

How ... convenient
So his version is out there and Diana is silenced .

What was that about mute women in the royal family ?

derxa · 10/12/2022 16:30

MarshaMelrose · 10/12/2022 16:22

If you think Bashir's a side issue, you've missed the argument completely. Why would Charles Spencer want it banned to suit his version? He was openly critical of the royals. When he made his first complaint, he was assured by the BBC that it had been fully investigated,and Bashir had apologised. He was never happy but there was nothing he could do. He never called for it to be banned. And at that time he didn't know that bank accounts etc had been forged. William never called for it to be banned.
It was only when Matt Wiessler came forward 25 years later that the full truth, which the BBC already knew, came to light. And both the extent to which Diana had been lied to and the cover up at the BBC was exposed. People had lost their jobs and reputations because of what Bashir and the BBC did.
It was then that William called for the banning of the programme. King Charles has never said anything. Everyone knows what she said, the text is available, channel 5 do a programme about Diana every week. What narrative is William hiding? Is there anyone that doesn't know that Charles had an affair with camilla? How by asking that one interview where he knows his mother was lied to, deceived, paranoia made more concrete, is that changing any narrati
Look past your dislike for the royals and think of a son, having been a confident for all her delusions, losing his mother.
Bashir and the BBC were a bloody disgrace.

Well said

RosettaStormer · 10/12/2022 16:32

derxa · 10/12/2022 16:30

Well said

Very well said

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