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Harry, Meghan and Netflix are go

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CathyorClaire · 29/11/2022 11:03

The long awaited documentray is hitting the screen on December 8th:

www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/breaking-prince-harry-meghan-markles-28607547

What with the award in a few days and the book in January they're ramping up the game.

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Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:33

@MarshaMelrose
You have no idea who was recording who !

The fact that Charles was caught out does not follow that it had nothing to do with Diana's phone

A poster said she was lied to about her phone .
But her calls were being recorded

MarshaMelrose · 10/12/2022 16:38

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:25

The royals were the disgrace
Charles was the one cheating and lying !
Get your priorities straight!

They have also banned the BBC 'home movie' that the royals now don't like .
Where do they get off with banning programmes they don't approve of ?
Luckily there are other means

You just made my point. You know charles cheated on her. How has that narrative been subverted by a banned interview?

The queen had the copyright - because she was a clever woman. That's how she could say whether it could be shown or not. Same as Oprah Whinfrey can say whether the interview with H&M can be shown.

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:39

The queen wasn't clever .
They wouldn't be in this mess now if she was.

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:42

@MarshaMelrose

Where is the proof that the queen has the copyright?
That is very odd

MarshaMelrose · 10/12/2022 16:50

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:29

Looks like Charles's interview with Dimbleby is still available

How ... convenient
So his version is out there and Diana is silenced .

What was that about mute women in the royal family ?

Exactly. I mean everything you say backs up my original post. No one is calling for Charles admitting adultery to be banned. William is asking for one interview, obtained through lies and stoking paranoia to not be shown. Bashir told Diana that Charles had given William a watch with a bug in it. She told William what was happening. William was distressed by what she was saying because he knew what sge was,saying was lies, and begged her not to see Bashir again. Do you not think this all goes through his mind when he sees Bashir's face - which he probably wants to punch in? Do you not think he goes over in his mind that if he could have convinced Diana it was all a load of tripe, she might have kept British protection officers and she might still be alive?
Or do you really have no understanding how a man, still bearing those childhood hurts, might feel?

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:54

@MarshaMelrose
I know that Diana was determined to give an interview .
She wasn't wrong that her calls were being recorded
What she said in that interview was true

Now what's this about tue queen getting copyright of the interview ? Of a BBC programme ??

MarshaMelrose · 10/12/2022 16:54

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:42

@MarshaMelrose

Where is the proof that the queen has the copyright?
That is very odd

If you want to view the documentary, you have to go through Buckingham Palace. They have Crown copyright. What's odd about it? She had an agreement with the BBC that if she didn't like it, it wouldn't be shown. She kept the copyright. Not odd. Clever.

Roussette · 10/12/2022 16:57

All I know is... I liked what Harry said in response to the uncovering of what went on with Bashir. And William not so much.

I know I know I am biaised but that is how I felt at the time. Harry seemed to speak from the heart. William was quivering with anger. BUT (before I get jumped on)... they are two different people. Harry wears his heart on his sleeve more, he can afford to, he isn't heir to the throne. Easier for him maybe. William has to toe the line and be more buttoned up.

They were just two very different responses.

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:57

@MarshaMelrose
Then how is it being shown in a film on Sky?

Or is it only shown abroad but banned from actual UK subjects seeing it ?

PicturesOfDogs · 10/12/2022 16:59

You lot are fucking evil.
Suggesting that William doesn’t care about his mum and is ‘the throwing his lot in with Charles and Camilla’
I get your team Sussex, and that means having to discredit the ‘other side’ as much as you can, but that’s fucking low. He is Diana’s son too, and I’m sure being the older son has far more memories than Harry.

I think Harry is wrong for monetising this, but never would I suggest what has been suggested on here about William. They obviously both loves and miss their mother very much.

Thats so low

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 17:00

@MarshaMelrose
The BBC are licensing the interview it appears .
So did the queen have copyright or not ?

Roussette · 10/12/2022 17:05

Suggesting that William doesn’t care about his mum

Has anyone said that?

PicturesOfDogs · 10/12/2022 17:05

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 17:00

@MarshaMelrose
The BBC are licensing the interview it appears .
So did the queen have copyright or not ?

I don’t think Netflix needed permission, I think I read it came under ‘fair reporting’ or something?

PicturesOfDogs · 10/12/2022 17:07

Roussette · 10/12/2022 17:05

Suggesting that William doesn’t care about his mum

Has anyone said that?

Not directly, which I why I used the word ‘suggested’

derxa · 10/12/2022 17:09

Roussette · 10/12/2022 16:57

All I know is... I liked what Harry said in response to the uncovering of what went on with Bashir. And William not so much.

I know I know I am biaised but that is how I felt at the time. Harry seemed to speak from the heart. William was quivering with anger. BUT (before I get jumped on)... they are two different people. Harry wears his heart on his sleeve more, he can afford to, he isn't heir to the throne. Easier for him maybe. William has to toe the line and be more buttoned up.

They were just two very different responses.

What right have you to judge this? You have no idea in reality the pain the whole incident caused to both William and Harry. Their poor bloody mother dying in agony in Paris and you're taking sides. There are no sides. It was a tragedy.

MarshaMelrose · 10/12/2022 17:10

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 16:54

@MarshaMelrose
I know that Diana was determined to give an interview .
She wasn't wrong that her calls were being recorded
What she said in that interview was true

Now what's this about tue queen getting copyright of the interview ? Of a BBC programme ??

Those first three sentences may or may not be true. But they're immaterial to why William wants the interview banned. His mother wrote,a book about her experiences. William has never asked for that to ve banned. There are multitudes,of programmes, books, interviews, articles, photos all about his mother. He's never asked them to be banned. But one man lied and deceived his mother and William heard everything his mother said and thought, and tried to convince her of the lies being told. And the institution of the BBC defended that man, sacked people to cover up for that man, promoted that man, and lied to his uncle and by extension to William.
Do you really lack the imagination why he thinks it should never see light again?

The Crown has copyright. Period.

Roussette · 10/12/2022 17:10

PicturesOfDogs · 10/12/2022 17:07

Not directly, which I why I used the word ‘suggested’

Well... god knows where because I haven't seen it. They both loved their mother deeply and to lose her in such tragic circumstanes was truly awful.

bakalava · 10/12/2022 17:10

derxa · 10/12/2022 17:09

What right have you to judge this? You have no idea in reality the pain the whole incident caused to both William and Harry. Their poor bloody mother dying in agony in Paris and you're taking sides. There are no sides. It was a tragedy.

That is nasty.

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 17:11

@PicturesOfDogs
'Palace sources ' said William was supportive of Camilla becoming Queen .
The woman who tortured his mother .
There are ordinary men and women across the country who won't accept Camilla . But gotta keep the show on the road when it's your turn next ! Nothing to see here ! All good !

William said Bashir fed his mothers 'paranoia' . Crazy woman trope .
Charming
Diana wasn't paranoid. She was right . And how telling that she did believe what Bashir said . It fitted with what she was experiencing

Roussette · 10/12/2022 17:12

derxa · 10/12/2022 17:09

What right have you to judge this? You have no idea in reality the pain the whole incident caused to both William and Harry. Their poor bloody mother dying in agony in Paris and you're taking sides. There are no sides. It was a tragedy.

If you read into it that I'm taking sides, that is on you. I am discussing the Bashir interview not taking sides and I put my point across reasonably but you are too uptight about the Royal Family to hear anything that doesn't fit in with what you want to hear. There was no criticism from me, I explained why their responses were different and that I understood why.

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 17:13

@MarshaMelrose
If the crown has copyright and not the BBC can you tell the DG?
Because someone is licensing the interview

Roussette · 10/12/2022 17:13

bakalava · 10/12/2022 17:10

That is nasty.

What is? The response by the boys to the uncovering of wrongdoing by Martin Bashir? Why is that nasty?

Itsthewhitehat · 10/12/2022 17:15

Roussette · 10/12/2022 15:47

I can assure you I watched all three episodes. But the way you portray it is not the way I took it

You took it a different way. That’s fine. I struggle to see how you believe they don’t think the RF is crap. But that’s still your opinion.

My opinion is (as I said before) that I disagree.

PicturesOfDogs · 10/12/2022 17:20

Novella4 · 10/12/2022 17:11

@PicturesOfDogs
'Palace sources ' said William was supportive of Camilla becoming Queen .
The woman who tortured his mother .
There are ordinary men and women across the country who won't accept Camilla . But gotta keep the show on the road when it's your turn next ! Nothing to see here ! All good !

William said Bashir fed his mothers 'paranoia' . Crazy woman trope .
Charming
Diana wasn't paranoid. She was right . And how telling that she did believe what Bashir said . It fitted with what she was experiencing

So you are suggesting he doesn’t care about his mum then?
Because he’s thrown his lot in with Camilla?

Because other posters are suggesting that’s not what you mean, when it clearly is

MarshaMelrose · 10/12/2022 17:25

Roussette · 10/12/2022 16:57

All I know is... I liked what Harry said in response to the uncovering of what went on with Bashir. And William not so much.

I know I know I am biaised but that is how I felt at the time. Harry seemed to speak from the heart. William was quivering with anger. BUT (before I get jumped on)... they are two different people. Harry wears his heart on his sleeve more, he can afford to, he isn't heir to the throne. Easier for him maybe. William has to toe the line and be more buttoned up.

They were just two very different responses.

I mean, yes, you are biased. 😂 But like you said, very different characters. One older, more aware of his responsibilities, thinks more deeply about ramifications of his words. The other one much more impetuous, less thoughtful because he doesn't shoulder the same responsibities

But I also think that Harry was younger and had a different personality, so he was protected from a lot of what was going on with Diana. I don't know that Paul Burrell is that reliable a source but he says that Diana used to lock herself in the bathroom crying and William used to be on the other side talking her round. She was quite open how much she relied and confided in him. I'm sure Harry was aware of stuff but he didn't have the hands on coping and listening to her paranoia. And William is quite clear about using that word. As was her brother, Charles. So, obviously, being more involved with what happened round that interview, he's going to have very different feelings and expressions to how Harry felt. Because he knew a lot more intimately what had happened than Harry did.

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