Harry, Meghan and Netflix are go

[CathyorClaire]

The long awaited documentray is hitting the screen on December 8th:

www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/breaking-prince-harry-meghan-markles-28607547

What with the award in a few days and the book in January they're ramping up the game.

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I felt the inclusion of Brexit footage and the linking of this the documentary strange and also didn't really agree with the points made about race being the reason for negative press.

But don't you think we have become more right wing as a nation, in the last few years? The Brexit vote, the years of austerity. People are less open and accepting I think and a bit more jaded. There isn't a sense of optimism that I feel was there before. So it kind of makes sense that when this very confident and articulate, 'woke', demonstrative, American actress came along, it was easy to stir up dislike for her.

Diana already told her side of the story in Morton's book. She was then had a paranoid belie that Charles was going to have her killed. Bashir faked evidence to get an introduction to her through her brother. He then fed a pack of lies to Diana, that both her brother and son warned her was a pack of lies, but because Bashir tied them in with her deepest fears, she believed them. Maybe even wanted to believe because it made her feel vindicated. As a result of the lies, when she divorced from Charles, she declined British security personnnel because she believed they'd be spying on her. British protection officers wouldn't have allowed her to drive with a drunk driver and would have told her to wear her seatbelt. Instead of Fayeds security who were overruled by Dodi.
So the argument that William and Charles Spencer have is that a line can be drawn between Bashirs lies and her death. And that's why they don't want it shown. They understand, because she confided in them, how she was manipulated and how the BBC ignored those dirty dealings for profit.
Say your child was convinced by an unscrupulous tv producer to strip naked and they were filmed and put on national tv. And then they died because he regretted what he did so took some drugs to feel better. Would you think that that piece of film should be shown over and over. I'm guessing you wouldn't. Diana didn't physically strip naked but W & CS felt that she exposed more of herself than she normally would. Because of Bashir.

@Aspiringmatriarch
Their has certainly been less tolerance but I think that has been on both sides of the fence right and left wing.

Why solely use the example of Brexit in the UK?

The US elected Trump and several other ultra RW nationalists in 2016.

The US is no less RW than the UK. The US is as obviously racist.

Not true

And we do t pay for them

@Xenia and others. I watched the programme . I am quite disappointed at the way the Commonwealth was described and spoken about in a very trite way. It deserves more insightful comment than it was given . I am also cross that Brexit (which I did not vote for - just as an aside what anyone else voted don't care ) was used as a hint that the whole of the UK is racist. Fed up of these two implying I am racist because I am British. I know there are racists in Britain - as there are in the US. Despicable but true . Am sure Meghan has had unpleasant threats but when she was first with PH Apart from the stupid"almost outta Compton" headline ( which I think was deeply unpleasant ) they did have a lot of very positive press. I do think they have chosen "their truth " and are hoping it will play out with enough people to get them air time & money

on a lighter note - quite interesting that Harry literally did not know what day of the week it was

They are clearly having a very happy life in a beautiful house and two healthy and lovely children - why - do they need to do all this stuff? Answers on a postcard please - ha ha

No I do wish them well , but I thing they are over egging themselves.

Because that wasn't the subject of the programme.

@EdithWeston

Diana did not regret her panorama interview . The royals did though !
So it was banned . Utterly disgraceful .
Just as they also banned the film of 'royal' life made in the 60s - the film they asked the bbc to make . Once they realised it didn't help the royal PR ( the queen referring to an ambassador as a 'gorilla' for example) - BANNED

The Bashir issue has been seized on by willliam and Charles to try to discredit Diana's interview further .
Diana meant what she said and she was clear - and she was right in what she said 'there were three of us in the marriage'

William has thrown his lot in with Charles and Camilla because that furthers his own interests.

There are now many internal contradictions appearing in the unfolding narrative. One of them seems to be around money. In the OW interview, Harry said that he had been 'cut off' by his father and - importantly, I think - he didn't seem at all happy about it.

But now we're hearing about what a heap of crap H&M think the Royal Family and the monarchy ('the crown') are, and how they started to feel this a long while ago, before his father would have cut him off. So why would Harry want money from them after he started feeling like this? Why bring it up to Oprah Winfrey? (This is the same interview where he contradicted Meghan about when the conversation happened around the skin tone of their future baby, which I felt exposed her to criticism rather unfairly, as she's only getting all this stuff from him.)

He really hasn't thought this through properly. He is very weak on his timelines. I don't think he protects his family very well either - I think he exposes them.

But now we're hearing about what a heap of crap H&M think the Royal Family and the monarchy ('the crown') are

I missed them calling the RF, the monarchy and the crown 'a heap of crap'. Can you tell me which episode that was in because I watched it all. I must've run to the loo when that happened

W & CS felt that she exposed more of herself than she normally would. Because of Bashir.

They must have been watching a different interview to the one I saw.

Diana was laser sharp, focused and very clear in what she said and how she said it. They were her own words.

It suits the royals to push the agenda that she was manipulated into it. It diverts attention from the part they played. I don't want it shown over and over but there's a place for it to be revisited from time to time to ensure attempts at royal revisionism (disgracefully supported by the 'impartial' BBC we pay for) are subject to public scrutiny.

@CathyorClaire I did view the Diana interview at the time, but I haven't watched it since. I only have a very general recollection of it and would have to watch it again to bring it back into focus. But what you say does sound about right - my memory is that she seemed to have a clear agenda and chose some phrases carefully.

Ah come on. If you take everything they have said it does sum up to that.wether you love them or loathe them. That’s their message.

The Bashir issue has been seized on by willliam and Charles to try to discredit Diana's interview further .
Diana meant what she said and she was clear - and she was right in what she said 'there were three of us in the marriage'

Yes.

Work being an uber gilded cage micro managed within an inch of its life by Palace flunkies chauffeured driven on the finest limos to smile and mouth platitudes and live in beautiful palaces eating the worlds most delicious food and drink whilst getting annoyed by pens. I can do that gizza job...

What real jobs are Harry and Meghan pursuing now that they have found freedom? Trying to cash in on old family connections to create a reality TV brand and redevelop their old jobs overseas which their fans say were fake jobs anyway. I don't see them building roads or running restaurants or anything that would count as real work. I'm happy to be corrected

Someone on Times radio suggested they would be great at running an eco-farm/conservation centre plus spa/wellness centre in California. I laughed but actually… Goop with royal tones?

That very thought went through my head today. They could easily run a wellness centre and sell products online. It's an honest way of making a living. Why not? A lot better than bitching about your families in a sad documentary.

Just out of interest, have you watched it, derxa? It's actually very good IMO.

I thought Harry came to life doing that assault course that James corden set up.
If he set up a get fit in 6 weeks boot camp, people buy it. They believe he has been fit. He loves being part of a gang. Getting montecito's bon viveurs in to their best shape ever is something people coukd believe he authentically cared about and knew how to do.

I'd love to hear NOTHING from either of them for 2 years and then he could come back without any agenda other than to enjoy life running a fitness boot camp.

I think that they will actually be v busy right now as they are single handedly taking on their global PR programme which they were paying Sunshine Sachs $2 million a year to run and they are also taking on the direct running of Archewell as a couple of the senior leaders departed last week.

I haven't read anything as sensible as this about them before. Ever.

No, it's not

Course I watched it. I loved their love story anecdotes. Then it went downhill.
-Using footage of other press harrassed royal women but none of Meghan because there wasn't any
-A patronising history lesson about the British Empire and slavery - stuff I've known I was 12
-The implication that we are all racist Brexiteers in the UK. I'm a Scottish Remainer so that pissed me off
-The digs at Kate and the Queen. The Queen whose coffin millions of people queued to see and pay respects to. Including many people of colour. They curtsied, bowed and didn't find it at all difficult. They weren't serfs. They were ordinary people who had respect for their head of state.