Harry and Meghan - lies?

[FurAndFeathers]

Ok I’m keeping my fingers crossed this thread will not descend into an unsubstantiated bun fight! Please bear with me.

I’m definitely no Royalist, and am pretty ambivalent about H and M but from the little I’ve read they seem to have been treated pretty badly. However I keep seeing on other threads here that their claims have all be proven to be lies, which would make me much less sympathetic to them. But I can’t find any verification for this.

So I’m asking more knowledgeable posters - what lies specifically have H&M told and where’s the evidence to the contrary please?

thank you

She did tutorial style work to reduce the bill to her parents but didn’t pay the bill herself

looking the fees range from 245 - 45,001 depending on househould income (top rate kicks in at 110,000 per annum) she wasn’t paying the bill with odd jobs and didn’t graduate with a student loan 🤷‍♀️

Don't you count reducing the bill as paying it? I mean, the bill would have been bigger if she hadn't contributed. I'd be interested in seeing something solid on paper.

I'm fascinated by the psychology of it all. A lot of the instances of 'lies' are examples of Meghan's grandiosity. It must be wonderful to have this level of self belief.

Me too @derxa

I posted about her college. Top rate is over $87000 per year because of room and board.

She worked in High School and got scholarships. She also did work study during college.

For a work study, she works on campus and her earnings go directly to paying tuition and fees instead of getting a pay check.

So yes, she did work to help pay for her tuition. TM can make it look like he paid for her college in full, but he got the reduced bill AFTER her scholarships and work study wad applied.

So no, this was not a lie.

TM says he paid her fees, Meghan’s says she paid the bills - the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Not quite what you lead us to believe before. Thank you @onlylarkin for the clarification.

Didn't she work in a Chicago bar or was this taken on holiday?

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5137453/Unseen-photos-Meghan-Markle-prom.html

I take it that the guy copping a feel in one of those pictures must have been her boyfriend or something similar at some point? I mean, if it is a random night out in an unfamiliar city, you would have to be quite lairy to end up in that position with a maitre d' of a restaurant, wouldn't you?

I’m in my late forties, so was able to make my mistakes off Social media. Which is a lucky thing

Meghan looks so happy in all those photos, beautiful girl.

Agree - no issue with any of those photos. Girl and young woman having fun with her friends, lovely pictures. But should have remained private.

Having fun with friends was a little bit different in my social circle. But I am not really surprised.

“It was through scholarships, financial aid programs and work-study where my earnings from a job on campus went directly towards my tuition, that I was able to attend university. And, without question, it was worth every effort,” she concluded.

The comment doesn’t mention that her parents paid a penny, and seems to imply she paid it all, which was her narrative in that speech.

Her father alleges that he took out a loan to pay tuition fees, which he was paying off for years. He says these college finance documents were submitted as part of court documents re letter copyright/ownership but that the court ruled on the narrow issue of copyright before these papers could be entered into the court record.

We know he paid for her private schooling so it seems strange that he didn’t contribute to her college education

OP says

"I’ve found a news article that quotes Meghan as “No-one knows that. But we called the archbishop and we just said: 'Look, this thing, this spectacle is for the world, but we want our union between us.'
"So the vows that we have framed in our room are just the two of us in our backyard with the Archbishop of Canterbury."

Actually she did really say that she and Harry got married three days before the wedding. The quote is missing some crucial words that came just before "No-one knows that...", and those exact words were "You know, three days before our wedding we got married".

So without those opening words that clearly say they got married three days before the wedding, MM could perhaps be given the benefit of the doubt. Was she really talking about a wedding or was it something less formal? But no, she did say they got married three days before.

@Ohnonevermind

Thomas DID pay for tuition. AFTER the scholarships and work study credits applied. That is what she means and in the context of her speech, she didn't need to elaborate.

She worked her ass off to get into Northwestern. She worked her ass off to get through Northwrstern. Having to do work study while working on 2 majors is challenging.

It is also reported that she was giving money to TM from 2014 to 2018. Weather that was paying back school or not?

As much as the OP wants the recollections to vary on this one, it can't be argued 😂

What did you do with your social circle then? Hymns round the piano?

@Aspiringmatriarch

recollections are scary 🤣

Well, I never got groped in sleazy bars with my tits spilling out of bodycon although I am aware that it happened and still does .... 😂

@Croque

we were all young once, I’ve seen far worse.

My brother who lives in Germany showed me a video of the beer festival - that was OMG

😂 True but most people elect to calm down by the time they get married whereas if you google M's first wedding you will discover all sorts of things which only suggest she went full circle ladette instead.

I suppose the wider point that I am making is that she was never going to fit into the RF and follow it's rules. Quite honestly, it would have saved time and money not to bother training her up in the first place which is why it was suggested that she should carry on working as an actress. The problem was that she couldn't because the work was drying up and the majority of the roles she had played to date had been sexualised to varying degrees so would have been deemed inappropriate. There was nowhere else this could go besides attempting 'service', screwing up and crying fire in the theatre.

What did you do with your social circle then? Hymns round the piano? 😂

Meghan continuing to act would never have worked. The Royal Family would only have allowed "appropriate" roles that would have left very little work possible.

Only the talented actresses make it in the business post 40 so Meghan knew her time was running out. She didn’t want to admit that though to the RF. Hollywood is a cruel and ageist place.

She was struggling to get work post suits. I do believe her people pitched her as one of the new avengers ( an eternals role I think) but they went a different direction.

For women post 40 there are very few acting roles. She would have got roles. But apart from a very female A listers, all woman actors see their career decline as they age.