Prince Harry's Memoir: A World Publishing Phenomenon

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

There will likely be several bashing threads on Harry's memoir before it is published, but I am interested in discussing with anyone who is interested in the very interesting marketing choices of the publishers and their approach.

English language editions of SPARE will be published on 10 January 2023 in EIGHT territories: the US, the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa and Canada.

The book will also be published in translation in 15 additional languages:

SPANISH Plaza & Janés/Penguin Random House Grupo Editorial
GERMAN Penguin Verlag/Penguin Random House Verlagsgruppe GmbH, PORTUGUESE BRAZIL Objetiva/Grupo Companhia das Letras
PORTUGUESE PORTUGAL Objectiva/Penguin Random House Grupo Editorial, SIMPLIFIED CHINESE Penguin Random House China
DANISH Politikens Forlag
DUTCH Hollands Diep, an imprint of Overamstel
FINNISH Otava Publishing Company Ltd
FRENCH Éditions Fayard
GREEK Pedio Books
HUNGARIAN Corvina Kiadó
ITALIAN Mondadori,
POLISH Wydawnictwo Marginesy,
ROMANIAN Nemira Publishing House,
SWEDISH Albert Bonniers Förlag.

This is absolutely sensational as it means it will be simultaneously published in 23 territories on the same day.

There are not many books where simultaneous release occurs in different markets. From this, I would say that the book will more than earn its advance, just from the foreign sales alone.

They also chose a banger of a title as it puts focus on the troubling notion of the Spare in a system based on primogeniture, and one that imbues both intrinsic and extrinsic value based on a person's birth order.

Imagine growing up knowing that no matter how loved you may be, your constitutional role is ultimately to be the spare to the heir.

Can't wait to read it!

Smh. The US education system has a lot to be desired. Cannot interpret statistics credibly. Cannot think critically. But, hey, we rule the world we will SHOUT the LOUDEST and promote our (non evident) skills and y'all will listen.
Ummm, I don't think so 😏

I've never used the "laughing" emoji myself, at least not in reference to MM; but it's very unfair to reduce all critical posts to some kind of shallow teenage-girl response.
Many of us have very valid and well-articulated reasons on why we find her behaviour appalling. Perhaps you have run out of arguments in defence of such behaviour, and so you are reduced to name-calling (13-year-old-teens)?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

There are many apt images they could have used but they wouldn’t have included the couple themselves in a starring role, hence the photoshopping.

That is their problem, they don’t have a substantial body of work and all the bought PR awards can’t disguise it. They need to put in the hard graft, rather than the appearance of it.

Its hardly childish to point that glaring fact out.

I wrote ‘some of these criticisms’ . I did not write ‘all critical posts’

please don’t change my words or their meaning.

i wrote that it seemed like some of these criticisms had been written by 13 years old girls (not exact words maybe, but probably are, but if I go back to look now I will lose this post, apparently - as I’ve just found out.

I did not write about all posters who were critical of m&h. Some posters who criticise m&h do have valid opinions & responses. I never said that was not the case. But quite a few are over the top, and really do lead me to think it could be 13 year old girls.

But it seems any criticism, any opinion I have, of some posts is going to be taken to mean I am having a go at all who post H&M criticisms. Not so.

I haven’t run out of arguments. My main argument is that I think from almost the beginning of Meghan’s UK experience she has faced misogyny and racism from many areas of mainstream media and also from some social media platforms too.

i also don’t think Harry is the idiot some mn posters write that he is. I also think they have a right to live the life they choose and not a life that anyone chooses for them -certainly not the life that some posters here would seem to like to see them living.

And I would argue that expecting any woman to stay silent and praising them for it - any woman, but I’ll emphasise Meghan &Kate here - is just plain wrong. Women have voices, and royal or not, they should be encouraged to use them & not praised for being silent. Nor expected to be silent.

I have more arguments about H&M. More arguments about the whole Royal Family set up. But enough for now.

I agree there are ridiculous assertions on both sides, eg H having learning disabilities, or it being completely normal to photoshop an image from April to make it look more wintry and stick REMEMBRANCE DAY over the top of it. It's always the same on these threads.

H&M remind me of a colleague who is very good at implying their mistakes are the fault of someone else, and when called out on it get wide eyed because they had never said it was the other person's fault.

Recent example - colleague A is responsible for putting together the programme for a team day. Asks for all topics of discussion to be submitted by a particular date, and when that date has come and gone puts together the programme and circulates to the team.

Colleague B then realises that they should have submitted topic X, and it can't wait until the next team day.

So they email the senior managers, saying unfortunately the programme colleague A has put together won't work, because it doesn't include topic X, and topic X needs to be discussed because of these reasons.

What colleague B does not say in their email is that the reason for topic X being left out was because they had not told colleague A it needed to be included, thus creating the impression that colleague A was at fault for missing out X.

Colleague A is then left with the choice of saying 'it's not my fault' - which appears childish - or accepting that the senior managers are left with the impression that they had messed up.

On this occasion they did confront it (it was the final straw) - and got the 'but I didn't say it was your fault' and wide eyed innocence from colleague B.

That seems to be the style of H&M - imply a lot - whether negative about others or positive about themselves - and when challenged about the truth are terribly hurt because they 'never said' or 'never claimed'...

Colleague B is a straight white man, so can't then claim that the reason so many colleagues dislike working with them is prejudice 😀but they probably would if they could...

@Morestrangethings And I would argue that expecting any woman to stay silent and praising them for it - any woman, but I’ll emphasise Meghan &Kate here - is just plain wrong. Women have voices, and royal or not, they should be encouraged to use them & not praised for being silent. Nor expected to be silent.

I would argue that when you join a new family by marrying a member of that family, and furthermore, move to that person's country which is very different from yours, you are at first silent as you wait and watch and see what adjustments YOU can make.

This is what I did. In 1975 I moved to a new country which has almost the reverse culture to mine, to marry a man I had not known very long. I also had to learn a new language (he spoke English, though). I did my best to learn all the new customs and the language. Yes, I was silent. I didn't criticise anything, even the things that were very strange and foreign to me. I saw it as a learning process which would help me in my new situation, and at the same time I could grow from it by seeing how things were done here.

Yes, I faced racism from my husband's family; in fact, they offered him money to "send her back to her backwater country". I did not take offense.

When I went to meet his family for the first time I gave them a huge smile and was polite and friendly and tried to adapt. I did not criticise or call them racist.
In then end they loved me very much and we all got on just fine. I was silent about the things I didn't like, and only began to criticise some of the things I didn't like about the country after many years, after I had done my best to integrate.

It seems to me that MM arrived in the RF all ready to change anything she didn't like, and that's just not a good way of doing things. And any pushback she got, she put it down to sexism and racism, and did so before a TV audience of many millions. She refused to adapt to protocol.

It's not hard to understand that that's not a good way of winning the favour of the country you've moved to, and its media.

Yes. Why do they need to be in the photo. Why not just a photo of a poppy or some other related image? The other royals are in photos related to RS because they were there at a nationally viewed, televised service. M&H were not at one so the graceful thing to do would be to focus on those actually being remembered, not at "look at us at a random gathering that focuses on living soldiers". Another issue for me here is that Invictus is primarily about hope, living and overcoming adversity, it is extremely tone deaf to link it so strenuously to the millions who lost their lives and didn't come back. Don't they know the difference? Prioritising their own need to expose themselves over the actual meaning of Remembrance Sunday.

Exactly @LondonWolf you’ve explained it very well.

I love the tweet by aliyarrow who was interviewed for Archetypes. Iy is very telling that she never even spoke to Meghan (who only converses directly with her celebrity friends like Sophie Trudeau and Serena. How much more patronising can it get? #ladymuck

Allison Yarrow

@Malahaha

You have an anachronistic understanding of the role of a woman. You tolerated abuse from your husband’s family for reasons I cannot comprehend. I suspect it’s partly generational, who knows? Fortunately, the fight for emancipation from the many isms is now heralded. And thank goodness for that because one of the greatest threats to justice and equality is passivism. And it’s a great shame that someone should advocate for it in this age. And for what reason? To appease one’s aggressor. Your experience is further reason why it was right for MM to speak out against her mistreatment.

It seems to me that much of the dislike of the duchess is because she has not bowed to those born of entitlement; she has challenged and not been servile and silent. Clearly these are alien characteristics for some. For many others, it’s indicative of self-worth.

As I’ve said before, the vitriol directed towards MM appears to be less to do with her and her character and is more illustrative of how said critics perceive themselves and their own lives.

Invictus is primarily about hope, living and overcoming adversity, it is extremely tone deaf to link it so strenuously to the millions who lost their lives and didn't come back. Don't they know the difference? Prioritising their own need to expose themselves over the actual meaning of Remembrance Sunday

I guess it depends which of them was driving this, but 11 November in the US is Veterans Day which honours all service people both living and dead; it's Memorial Day in May which is mainly about the fallen

Perhaps Meghan wasn't in the UK long enough to realise the significance of Remembrance Sunday - or maybe just didn't care - but from a purely US perspective the choice may be a little odd, but I'm not sure it would be considered actually offensive

Here we go if anyone's interested:

www.rd.com/article/memorial-day-vs-veterans-day-difference/#:~:text=Memorial%20Day%3A%20This%20holiday%20honors,wartime%20or%20died%20in%20battle.

And when there is nothing, they make shit up. Like fucking snow in a photo.

Oh. That might have been me. I only gave the thing a casual glance and that's what I saw. I don't suppose I was the only one but in any case I don't think it warrants quite so much frothing.

Do you have a bigger version of the colour photo you posted earlier?

I didn't realise the background needed to be quite so minutely analysed so I'd be interested to see the surrounding vegetation and trees shown in the original shot.

Wise people listen and learn before deciding how they are going to change the system in which they operate , and all the word salad in the world can’t make a difference to that reality.

The jargon of woke
Makes me boak
Am I'm always glad
To pass on the word s'lad
The End 😂

Classic Dunning Kruger - I can change the system for the better without even knowing what the existing system is

Oh, come off it. Lecturing a perfect stranger on "how to be a feminist" is the height of presumption and stupidity. Maybe it's YOUR racism speaking (assuming I was some sweet little brown girl who allowed "abuse")? Not to mention your ageism.

You talk the same kind of liberal word-salad as Meghan Markle.

As it happens I was raised by the leading feminist in my home country who broke down umpteen barriers that actually held women back (for instance that married women cannot have an outside job) and did not need a podcast to talk word-salad because she actually DID stuff.

One of the things she taught me is that wisdom consists of knowing when to speak and when to be silent.

And btw I cannot abide feminist gobbledegook.

Yes, I faced racism from my husband's family; in fact, they offered him money to "send her back to her backwater country". I did not take offense.

A shining example of healthy self-esteem. A real bastion of gender and racial equalities. 👏🙄

@Malahaha

what a great post. Kudos to the feminist who raises you

@Malahaha 👏👏 I could not agree more.

I’m sure the shouty pompous word salad approach would have worked out really well bridging the gap between cultures 🤔

I did not take offense because I knew they were two older German (in their 60s) women in a backwater town who had never once met a person with dark skin and were just ignorant and never exposed to a different culture. That can be scary.

All they needed was a bit of love and they melted into my hands! It was a wonderful experience.

Getting all offended and shouty at them as you seem to think I should have done, or refusing to meet them -- would have done what, exactly?

That is why you should never make assumptions without knowing the whole story.