Lord Mountbatten abuse allegations

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Andrew Lownie's joint bio 'The Mountbattens' quotes multiple accounts of Mountbatten abusing children and teenagers. One source is one of the Queen Mother's ladies-in-waiting, Lady Decies, who told the FBI that Mountbatten was thought of as a 'person of very low morals' with 'a perversion for young boys'. If Mr Smythe wins the case, would it damage the monarchy? Charles would have been too young to know about it while Mountbatten was alive, but it does put him and the others in an uncomfortable light now, especially since Prince William named Louis after Mountbatten.

Good question but when I raised Charles' dubious judgement on the thread about the Courtiers book, excuse after excuse was made for him. I doubt the posters would've been that forgiving if it was Harry with dodgy friends.

@AnnunciataZ
Yep I've had that a lot too. Excuse after excuse

They've even attempted to blame the young girls attacked re the Andrew affair .

But mumsnet doesn't reflect real life in this matter thank god .

If it's true, it's awful. But I'm always careful not to prejudge. I remember reading loads of posts,
and threads on here condemning the establishment for running paedophile rings and murderers. Fully buying into Carl Beech and the Met's claims where there was no, could be no, evidence. William Roache was accused of sexual assault and one accuser had to retract her evidence in court because she'd muddled him up with Peter Adamson.
And I see that Kevin Spacey, with a slew of journalists saying he's assaulted loads of boys, has just been cleared of sexual assault in court.
It's truly awful what was ignored in the 1970s. And being continually raped in place which was your home so could be afforded no escape is beyond imagination. But the legal system should be allowed to take its course and the individuals involved find justice.

Tell the FBI

They had it all on file decades and decades ago .

Bideshi, I agree that the book didn't reach a conclusion, and that some people, such as the lady-in-waiting, or the person who supplied the account of him 'seducing' boys ranging from eight to twelve, may have had axes to grind. However, the pseudonymous Sean and Amal in Lownie's book wouldn't get fame since their real names weren't used.
It also feels uncomfortable that Mountbatten dated his goddaughter Sacha Abercorn, the daughter of Edwina's long-term boyfriend Bunny Phillips. Yes, she was an adult during the affair and said the age gap 'just melted away' but it still feels a bit strange.
On Edwina as being pretty despicable- she was a very neglectful mother to her 2 children, more so than more distant upper-class standards (eg she forgot where she left her daughters when they were staying in France with her governess). In defence, she did lose her own mother at nine. She was spoilt and lazy until the war but then did do good humanitarian work during and after it. There is also her dodgy manouevering for partition with her lover Nehru,and perjury about not knowing Robeson. I don't condone her numerous affairs, and hypocrisy in being angry when Mountbatten then had his own. I can't remember if the book really indicated if she felt socially pressured to marry or really wanted to, but it's still not an excuse. However, I think it a little harsh to equate her behaviour with her husband - who was not a humanitarian and very self-promoting. The marry-a-virgin advice was awful too.
It's interesting that the FBI files write of Edwina's so-called 'nymphomania' and affair with the African-American Paul Robeson as if they are equal to her husband's alleged paedophilia.

On Mountbatten and the physicality of sex, that may be true. However, he did have several female lovers (Yola Letellier, his long-term mistress, Shirley macLaine, Sacha Abercorn) and there are the alleged Madame Claude appointments and (not underage) male lovers, one of whom talked to Lownie. Presumably there was some phyiscal element.

It has been in the Irish media for a while.
The Kincora House paedophile scandal.

Shirley MacLaine??? I didn't know that!

If you ignore the two teenage boys who died with him that day.

Who were the teenage boys??

@Holidayexpert the teenage boys were one of his grandsons and a 15 year who was working on the boat.

@Needmorelego Thanks. Awful for them to lose their lives, but as for him, good riddance!

I have no idea why my previous posts have been hidden as I only posted the detail of the 2 young boys who were killed.

If he did have a young male navy favourite who wasn;t underage, there's still the power issue. Anthony Daly was a young man, not a child, when he was abused, but it was still immoral. He is quoted in Lownie's book as saying that Mountbatten had a fetish for 'boys in school uniform' and wrote a book, The Abuse of Power about his abuse by prominent men in the 1970s. www.goodreads.com/book/show/45453200-the-abuse-of-power

Annuniciata - Yes, I was very suprised too, but it's in Lownie's book! She also dated Pierre Trudeau.

Sorry, just to clarify, Daly said Mountbatten wasn't one of his abusers.

My grandfather served as an officer in India when Lord M was there. He would have said exactly what Lady Decies said about him. It was common knowledge.

@AdriannaP

Prince George Alexander Louis and Prince Louis were 100% named after Louis Mountbatten.

Lord Milford Haven was his guardian and he also lived with his maternal grandmother when he came to England in 1930 before he went to boarding school, Mountbatten took more of an active role after Lord Milford Haven's death. He died in 1938 so Prince Philip was hardly a little boy at the time, he joined the navy in 1939.

Hard to take it seriously when people assert they "know" all sorts of secret stuff when they can't even get the facts right that have been in the public realm for donkey's years,

Well J Edgar Hoover would know I suppose.

@ancientgran
Care to comment on the collection of pornography left to the British Museum by Philip's first guardian?

I've always thought that a bit odd. I can understand why Charles named his own son after Mountbatten but William never knew him!

Didn't Mountbatten and Edwina's marital indiscretions pale in comparison with those of his brother and sister in law?